LCH v/s AW-129 comparison

[sancho]

Hey Sancho,I have a dout.As far as I remember,the IAF wanted the topspeed of LCH to be 25 km/hr more than 270 km/hr of Dhruv ALH.But the top speed of LCH as per weeki is just 275 km/hr.Won't that make a problem??
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Not really a problem, because the difference is not much between aimed and achieved capability, but it might have to do with the weight issues that was reported. If they can reduce weight and drag, that issue could be gone very fast, maybe it is even gone now since the 2nd prototype had some external changes.

 

[itsme]

what is the max weapon carrying capacity of lch and of the 129??? max takeoff weight of lch is much bigger though, then it should carry more weapons.

 

[Malik Alashter]

What's the cost per unit.

 

[Black Widow]

What's the cost per unit.

Cost price of LCH will be higher coz it will include assembly line and infrastructure cost. But if we talk about per unit production cost I think LCH will not much costlier.

Just my views/...

 

[IND151]

Aw-129


General characteristics
Crew: 2: pilot and weapon systems officer
Length: 12.28 m (40 ft 3 in)
Rotor diameter: 11.90 m (39 ft 1 in)
Height: 3.35 m (11 ft 0 in)
Disc area: 111.22 m² (1,197.25 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,530 kg (5,575 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 4,600 kg (10,140 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Rolls-Royce Gem 2-1004D (license built by Piaggio) turboshafts, 664 kW (890 shp) each
Rotor systems: 4 blades on main rotor
Performance
Maximum speed: 278 km/h (148 knots, 170 mph)
Cruise speed: 229 km/h (135 knots, 155 mph)
Range: 510 km (275 nm, 320 mi)
Ferry range: 1,000 km (540 nm, 620 mi)
Service ceiling: 4,725 m (15,500 ft)
Rate of climb: 10.2 m/s (2,025 ft/min)
Armament
Guns: 1× 20 mm (0.787 in) M197 three-barrel gatling-type cannon (500 rounds) in a TM197B Light Turreted Gun System(only CBT version)
Rockets: 4 pods with
38× 81 mm (3.19 in) unguided rockets or
76× 70 mm (2.75 in) unguided rockets or
12.7 mm machine gun-pod
Missiles:
8× AGM-114 Hellfire or BGM-71 TOW anti-tank missiles
4-8× AIM-92 Stinger or Mistral anti-aircraft missiles

LCH

General characteristics
Crew: 2
Length: 15.8 m (51 ft 8 in)
Rotor diameter: 13.3 m (43 ft 6 in)
Height: 4.7 m (15 ft 4 in)
Disc area: 138.9 m² (1,472 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,250 kg[citation needed] (5,975 lb)
Useful load: 3,350 kg[citation needed] (7,410 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 5,800 kg (12,787 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × HAL/Turbomeca Shakti turboshaft, 1,067 kW (1,430 shp[24]) each
Performance
Never exceed speed: 330 km/h (178 knots, 207 mph)
Maximum speed: 268 km/h (145 knots, 166.5 mph)
Range: 700 km (297 nmi, 342 mi)
Service ceiling: 6,500 m (21,300 ft)
Rate of climb: 12 m/s[citation needed] (2,362 ft/min)
Disc loading: 39.59 kg/m² (8.23 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 327 W/kg (0.198 hp/lb)
Armament
Guns: 1× 20 mmM621 cannon on Nexter THL-20 turret
Rockets: 60/80 mm calibre rockets[21]
Missiles: air-to-surface, MBDA air-to-air, anti-radiation, and Helina anti-tank missiles
Bombs: Gravity bombs, cluster bombs, grenade launchers

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...eK7F_lb0XvenmvpLCHwBATA&bvm=bv.52109249,d.bmk

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...Xv1Uy2OSlzifCHTpQ_soC8g&bvm=bv.52109249,d.bmk

 

[onionkiller]

gde murde kyun ukhad rahe ho ? its old thread

 

[acetophenol]

gde murde kyun ukhad rahe ho ? its old thread

comparisons are still relevant.

 

[Jai_Hind]

It is the LCH-1

whats the major diffences between LCH-1 and 2....

 

[acetophenol]

whats the major diffences between LCH-1 and 2....

LCH-2 refered here is simply the second example of LCH,with the visible differences being,
1. Digi cam
2. Larger stub wings

 

[sasi]

Aw-129


General characteristics
Crew: 2: pilot and weapon systems officer
Length: 12.28 m (40 ft 3 in)
Rotor diameter: 11.90 m (39 ft 1 in)
Height: 3.35 m (11 ft 0 in)
Disc area: 111.22 m² (1,197.25 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,530 kg (5,575 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 4,600 kg (10,140 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Rolls-Royce Gem 2-1004D (license built by Piaggio) turboshafts, 664 kW (890 shp) each
Rotor systems: 4 blades on main rotor
Performance
Maximum speed: 278 km/h (148 knots, 170 mph)
Cruise speed: 229 km/h (135 knots, 155 mph)
Range: 510 km (275 nm, 320 mi)
Ferry range: 1,000 km (540 nm, 620 mi)
Service ceiling: 4,725 m (15,500 ft)
Rate of climb: 10.2 m/s (2,025 ft/min)
Armament
Guns: 1× 20 mm (0.787 in) M197 three-barrel gatling-type cannon (500 rounds) in a TM197B Light Turreted Gun System(only CBT version)
Rockets: 4 pods with
38× 81 mm (3.19 in) unguided rockets or
76× 70 mm (2.75 in) unguided rockets or
12.7 mm machine gun-pod
Missiles:
8× AGM-114 Hellfire or BGM-71 TOW anti-tank missiles
4-8× AIM-92 Stinger or Mistral anti-aircraft missiles

LCH

General characteristics
Crew: 2
Length: 15.8 m (51 ft 8 in)
Rotor diameter: 13.3 m (43 ft 6 in)
Height: 4.7 m (15 ft 4 in)
Disc area: 138.9 m² (1,472 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,250 kg[citation needed] (5,975 lb)
Useful load: 3,350 kg[citation needed] (7,410 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 5,800 kg (12,787 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × HAL/Turbomeca Shakti turboshaft, 1,067 kW (1,430 shp[24]) each
Performance
Never exceed speed: 330 km/h (178 knots, 207 mph)
Maximum speed: 268 km/h (145 knots, 166.5 mph)
Range: 700 km (297 nmi, 342 mi)
Service ceiling: 6,500 m (21,300 ft)
Rate of climb: 12 m/s[citation needed] (2,362 ft/min)
Disc loading: 39.59 kg/m² (8.23 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 327 W/kg (0.198 hp/lb)
Armament
Guns: 1× 20 mmM621 cannon on Nexter THL-20 turret
Rockets: 60/80 mm calibre rockets[21]
Missiles: air-to-surface, MBDA air-to-air, anti-radiation, and Helina anti-tank missiles
Bombs: Gravity bombs, cluster bombs, grenade launchers

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...eK7F_lb0XvenmvpLCHwBATA&bvm=bv.52109249,d.bmk

https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&r...Xv1Uy2OSlzifCHTpQ_soC8g&bvm=bv.52109249,d.bmk

there will be slight change in length,height and empty wt in final version.

 

[Yabgu]

Turkish variant of 129 the T129 is better than LCH

 

[kurup]

Turkish variant of 129 the T129 is better than LCH

Then please provide the data to back it up .

LCH-2 refered here is simply the second example of LCH,with the visible differences being,
1. Digi cam
2. Larger stub wings

+ various modifications to reduce drag .

 

[Yabgu]

General characteristics

Crew: 2: pilot and co-pilot/gunner
Length: 13.45 m (44 ft 1 in)
Rotor diameter: 11.90 m (39 ft 0 in)
Height: 3.4 m (11 ft 2 in)
Disc area: 111.22 m² (1,197.25 ft²)
Max. takeoff weight: 5,000 kg (11,023 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × LHTEC CTS800-4A turboshaft, 1,014 kW (1,361 shp) each
Rotor systems: 5 blades on main rotor
Performance

Maximum speed: 278 km/h (151 knots, 174 mph)
Cruise speed: 269 km/h (145 knots, 167 mph)
Range: 561 km (303 nmi, 341 mi)
Ferry range: 1,000 km (540 nmi, 620 mi)
Service ceiling: 6,096 m (20,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 14.0 m/s (2,750 ft/min)
Armament

Guns: 1× 20 mm (0.787 in) three-barrel gatling-type cannon (500 rounds)
Rockets: 4 pods with
38× 81 mm (3.19 in) unguided rockets or
76× 70 mm (2.75 in) unguided rockets or
12.7 mm (0.50 in) machine gun pod
Missiles:
8× AGM-114 Hellfire, BGM-71 TOW, Hydra 70, Spike-ER, UMTAS, anti-tank and anti-armor missiles and Sura D/Snora.
12x Roketsan Cirit
2× AIM-92 Stinger or Mistral or AIM-9 Sidewinder anti-aircraft missiles[43]

 

[confound thinker]

We need to increase the speed of lch .It is pretty less than most of its counterparts .Hopefully it will be solved once the weight issues are sorted out.

 

[Gessler]

General characteristics

Crew: 2: pilot and co-pilot/gunner
Length: 13.45 m (44 ft 1 in)
Rotor diameter: 11.90 m (39 ft 0 in)
Height: 3.4 m (11 ft 2 in)
Disc area: 111.22 m² (1,197.25 ft²)
Max. takeoff weight: 5,000 kg (11,023 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × LHTEC CTS800-4A turboshaft, 1,014 kW (1,361 shp) each
Rotor systems: 5 blades on main rotor
Performance

Maximum speed: 278 km/h (151 knots, 174 mph)
Cruise speed: 269 km/h (145 knots, 167 mph)
Range: 561 km (303 nmi, 341 mi)
Ferry range: 1,000 km (540 nmi, 620 mi)
Service ceiling: 6,096 m (20,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 14.0 m/s (2,750 ft/min)
Armament

Guns: 1× 20 mm (0.787 in) three-barrel gatling-type cannon (500 rounds)
Rockets: 4 pods with
38× 81 mm (3.19 in) unguided rockets or
76× 70 mm (2.75 in) unguided rockets or
12.7 mm (0.50 in) machine gun pod
Missiles:
8× AGM-114 Hellfire, BGM-71 TOW, Hydra 70, Spike-ER, UMTAS, anti-tank and anti-armor missiles and Sura D/Snora.
12x Roketsan Cirit
2× AIM-92 Stinger or Mistral or AIM-9 Sidewinder anti-aircraft missiles[43]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, all that T129 is superior in appears to be speed & climb rate.

LCH still holds upper hand in Max take off weight, Service ceiling, range and stealth features as well.

If you can provide any more info about T129, please do.