LCA-Tejas fires Derby BVRAAM, Clears Critical FOC Milestone

[SrNair]

I think IAF decision to delay all other fighters and rejection of F 35 is possibly influenced by LCA succesd

 

[AyanRay]

good its future plane

Yup, am sure Pakistan's next jet will incorporate lots of features which are already there in Tejas, like full digital FBW system, carbon composite body, HMD, onboard oxygen generator. Similarly, your next jet hopefully will use indigenous missiles, like Tejas does.

Edit: And yes, in future hopefully Pakistanis will start understanding the ADA programming language or else the Chinese will again have to use C++ for you guys to understand

 

[Imran Khan]

Yup, am sure Pakistan's next jet will incorporate lots of features which are already there in Tejas, like full digital FBW system, carbon composite body, HMD, onboard oxygen generator. Similarly, your next jet hopefully will use indigenous missiles, like Tejas does.

Edit: And yes, in future hopefully Pakistanis will start understanding the ADA programming language or else the Chinese will again have to use C++ for you guys to understand

no thanks we need fighter jest to replace f-7s and mirages and a-5 and its done on time properly .keep cooking LCA next 40 years we have nothing to do

 

[hussain0216]

With this Successful trial of Derby BVRAAM, LCA-Tejas has completed one of the key Milestone required before it is granted Final Operational Clearance (FOC) by end of June this year. Today’s BVRAAM trials stressed on achieving expanded flight envelope which was successfully demonstrated. This is also last of the Derby BVRAAM trials and now Integration and trials are officially over and cleared for use in operational situation . LCA-Tejas Team is currently gearing up to demonstrate In-flight Aerial Refueling capabilities in next few days which is also required before FOC can be granted.

- ADA


This isn't the first time Tejas has fired Derby.
But this launch marks the Full Operational Capability of the missile, one of the final steps towards FOC of the aircraft.

I know it's hard to understand for those who're from places where aircrafts enter full service without any sort of capability and everything is perfected and inducted with one single launch.

Its easy to understand,,, have been hearing bull plop about tejas for so long it dosent hold any weight any more

If we want by your milestones and fanboys dreams you should have 300 tejas by now

You can read old threads on this site from 2000-2010 about this, that, how great tejas is, how india will have 300 by 2013, its a future plane blah blah blah


Honestly indians after so long and so much indian cow shit your words amount to monkey balls

 

[KapitaanAli]

Press Information Bureau
Government of India
Ministry of Defence
28-April-2018 12:40 IST
LCA Tejas Achieves Yet Another Milestone Towards FOC Certification

Tejas, the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) successfully fired Derby Air-to-Air Beyond Visual Range Missile to expand the firing envelope as well as to demonstrate safe operation of the aircraft during missile plume ingestion into the aircraft engine under worst case scenarios. The missile was launched from LCATejas piloted by Wg Cdr Siddharth Singh on 27 April 2018 from the firing range off the Goa coast after exhaustive study of the missile separation characteristics and plume envelope. LCATejas has been designed & developed by DRDO’s autonomous society – Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA).

Integration of Derby, a BVR class missile is one of the major objectives of Final Operational Clearance (FOC) of LCATejas.

The aircraft was tracked by two other Tejas aircraft in close formation to capture the firing event in the specially instrumented high speed cameras for detailed analysis and comparison with the simulation model for validation. The entire planning, practice sorties and final firing was carried out by ADA and it’s National Flight Test Centre (NFTC) officials Cmde JA Maolankar and GpCapt A Kabadwal, IAF, DG(AQA), HAL & INS HANSA.

Based on the successful integration and demonstration, Regional Centre for Military Airworthiness (RCMA), a unit of DRDO has cleared the series production aircraft of Squadron 45, to be equipped with Derby operational capability. LCATejas has successfully completed a series of captive flight trials to clear Derby for the full operational capability in the entire FOC envelope. In the past, Tejas has qualified for the armaments and missile release related trials.

Raksha Mantri Smt. Nirmala Sitharaman has complimented DRDO and other agencies involved for making LCATejas fighter jet, a world class aircraft platform.

Chairman DRDO& Secretary Department of Defence R&D Dr. S Christopher, congratulated and said that with this firing, LCATejas achieved another major milestone towards FOC certification.

NAo/Rajib

 

[noksss]

Yet another milestone

I have been hearing about tejas milestones for decades

if you add up all the milestones tejas has you could go around the world which frankly is more than tejas can do

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/teja...and-derby-air-to-air-missiles-in-july.383462/

from 3 years ago

Obviously we don't have the luxury of inducting things with just one or no test like you guys

 

[hussain0216]

Obviously we don't have the luxury of inducting things with just one or no test like you guys

Oh we test, we just dont have full bollywoodesq tamasha after every single event with fanboys circle masterbating about how great the tejas is for year after year, decade after decade

If you shut up about it and wait till its ready it wouldn't be such a joke

But you dont, year after year tejas this, tejas that
Then when it repeatedly misses deadlines you make it a joke
When your military refuses to induct you make it a joke
When its short comings are revealed you mak it a joke

You indians have made it a joke because of your endless indianness

Why are you blaming us or anyone else for pointing it out?

Image Credit: wikimedia commons/Rinju 9
Indian Air Force: Tejas Light Combat Aircraft Can’t Protect Indian Skies
A new report by the IAF said that the Tejas fighter jet lags behind its foreign competitors like the JAS-39 Gripen.

By Franz-Stefan Gady
November 14, 2017


The Indian Air Force (IAF) has issued a new report listing several deficiencies found with India’s first domestically designed and produced light fighter aircraft, the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), in yet another push to convince the government to procure foreign-made single engine fighter jets.

According to IAF assessments, the Tejas LCA, when compared to Saab’s JAS-39 Gripen and Lockheed Martin’s F-16, boasts reduced airborne endurance — 59 minutes versus three hours for the Gripen and nearly four hours for the F-16. The Tejas can also only carry a weapons payload of around three tons against nearly six tons by the Gripen and seven tons by the F-16.

Furthermore, maintenance requirements for the Tejas LCA are also higher than with foreign combat aircraft. The Tejas LCA requires 20 hours of serving for every hour of flying against six hours for the Gripen and 3.5 hours for the F-16. In addition, the service life of the Tejas LCA is also half that of the 40 years found in both the Gripen and F-16.

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The Tejas LCA is a supersonic, single-seat, single-engine multirole light fighter aircraft that has been under development since 1983 by the Aeronautical Development Agency in cooperation with Indian state-owned military aircraft maker Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

HAL has repeatedly stated that it intends to address the technical shortfalls. In May 2015, the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) of India — the Indian government’s principal oversight body —issued a report highlighting technical problems with the Tejas LCA, including inadequate electronic warfare capabilities, problems with the onboard radar system, and reduced internal-fuel capacity.

The shortcomings are expected to be tackled in the upgraded Mark I-A variant of the LCA, which was slated to take to the skies for the first time this year. The upgraded LCA will be fitted with an advanced AESA radar system and a new electronic warfare sensor suite, among other thing. The IAF also wants to arm its Tejas fleet with I-Derby beyond-visual-range (BVR) air-to-air missile.

Saab has held talks with HAL to collaborate on the upgraded version of the Tejas Mark-IA.

As I noted elsewhere: “The [IAF] intends to induct a total of 123 Tejas Mark-IA aircraft. In November 2016, the Indian MoD cleared the purchase of a first batch of 83 Mark-IA LCAs. The IAF is also currently slated to receive 40 Tejas Mark-I aircraft by early 2018.”

However, HAL has not been able to meet the target of producing eight Tejas aircraft per year. In July 2016, the IAF inducted the first two serially-produced LCAs, followed by two more aircraft in the same year. Twelve more aircraft are currently at the production stage. The Indian government has also been pushing HAL to ramp up production capacity from eight to 16 aircraft per year


https://thediplomat.com/2017/11/ind...ht-combat-aircraft-cant-protect-indian-skies/

 

[PurpleStone]

Yes, now the only test remained is in flight refueling. It will be cleared for foc then. India has never inducted plane with almost all capabilities incorporated from day one. Many of the capabilities of mirage 2000 were incorporated after 3 years so as the case with MKl.

I thought it was already done.

Hot Re-fueling trial of Light Combat Aircraft-Tejas successful

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...aft-tejas-successful/articleshow/63094588.cms

 

[Nilgiri]

good its future plane

 

[KapitaanAli]

Oh we test, we just dont have full bollywoodesq tamasha after every single event with fanboys circle masterbating about how great the tejas is for year after year, decade after decade

If you shut up about it and wait till its ready it wouldn't be such a joke

But you dont, year after year tejas this, tejas that
Then when it repeatedly misses deadlines you make it a joke
When your military refuses to induct you make it a joke
When its short comings are revealed you mak it a joke

You indians have made it a joke because of your endless indianness

Why are you blaming us or anyone else for pointing it out?

Image Credit: wikimedia commons/Rinju 9
Indian Air Force: Tejas Light Combat Aircraft Can’t Protect Indian Skies
A new report by the IAF said that the Tejas fighter jet lags behind its foreign competitors like the JAS-39 Gripen.

By Franz-Stefan Gady
November 14, 2017


The Indian Air Force (IAF) has issued a new report listing several deficiencies found with India’s first domestically designed and produced light fighter aircraft, the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), in yet another push to convince the government to procure foreign-made single engine fighter jets.

According to IAF assessments, the Tejas LCA, when compared to Saab’s JAS-39 Gripen and Lockheed Martin’s F-16, boasts reduced airborne endurance — 59 minutes versus three hours for the Gripen and nearly four hours for the F-16. The Tejas can also only carry a weapons payload of around three tons against nearly six tons by the Gripen and seven tons by the F-16.

Furthermore, maintenance requirements for the Tejas LCA are also higher than with foreign combat aircraft. The Tejas LCA requires 20 hours of serving for every hour of flying against six hours for the Gripen and 3.5 hours for the F-16. In addition, the service life of the Tejas LCA is also half that of the 40 years found in both the Gripen and F-16.

Enjoying this article? Click here to subscribe for full access. Just $5 a month.
The Tejas LCA is a supersonic, single-seat, single-engine multirole light fighter aircraft that has been under development since 1983 by the Aeronautical Development Agency in cooperation with Indian state-owned military aircraft maker Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

HAL has repeatedly stated that it intends to address the technical shortfalls. In May 2015, the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) of India — the Indian government’s principal oversight body —issued a report highlighting technical problems with the Tejas LCA, including inadequate electronic warfare capabilities, problems with the onboard radar system, and reduced internal-fuel capacity.

The shortcomings are expected to be tackled in the upgraded Mark I-A variant of the LCA, which was slated to take to the skies for the first time this year. The upgraded LCA will be fitted with an advanced AESA radar system and a new electronic warfare sensor suite, among other thing. The IAF also wants to arm its Tejas fleet with I-Derby beyond-visual-range (BVR) air-to-air missile.

Saab has held talks with HAL to collaborate on the upgraded version of the Tejas Mark-IA.

As I noted elsewhere: “The [IAF] intends to induct a total of 123 Tejas Mark-IA aircraft. In November 2016, the Indian MoD cleared the purchase of a first batch of 83 Mark-IA LCAs. The IAF is also currently slated to receive 40 Tejas Mark-I aircraft by early 2018.”

However, HAL has not been able to meet the target of producing eight Tejas aircraft per year. In July 2016, the IAF inducted the first two serially-produced LCAs, followed by two more aircraft in the same year. Twelve more aircraft are currently at the production stage. The Indian government has also been pushing HAL to ramp up production capacity from eight to 16 aircraft per year


https://thediplomat.com/2017/11/ind...ht-combat-aircraft-cant-protect-indian-skies/

The report you shared is full of nonsense and a marketing article.

Tejas recently flew six sorties daily continuously. Let's see if Gripen can do that in deserts.

The Bollywood tamasha you talk about is simply the agencies issuing reports in the name of transparency. It is this same transparency that lets you make fun of us.
The issue is that your info is outdated and/or from marketing articles from other aircraft manufacturers.

Even today, your own experts would argue that your aircraft in full service can't fire certain missiles.
That's the difference.

I thought it was already done.

Hot Re-fueling trial of Light Combat Aircraft-Tejas successful

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...aft-tejas-successful/articleshow/63094588.cms

Different thing. Hot refuelling is done on the ground with the engine running and pilot inside.

 

[Storm Force]

FIRSTLY WHAT LOVELY SIGHT

India.s very own Mirage2000/ gripen light weight fighter

Great to see the first daggers squadron yup and running

India has taken its time BUT india could afford that luxury having nearly 250 su30mki in service already.

THE PAKISTANIS have rushed their cheap budget thunder tp the point what is standard on mark 1 LCA will npot be available to PAF thunders until block 3

so well done INDIA

 

[Shankranthi]

The report you shared is full of nonsense and a marketing article.

Tejas recently flew six sorties daily continuously. Let's see if Gripen can do that in deserts.

The Bollywood tamasha you talk about is simply the agencies issuing reports in the name of transparency. It is this same transparency that lets you make fun of us.
The issue is that your info is outdated and/or from marketing articles from other aircraft manufacturers.

Even today, your own experts would argue that your aircraft in full service can't fire certain missiles.
That's the difference.

There are only 3 points made in the entire article. All of them can be easily refuted.

1. LCA can fly for 59 mins while Grippen can fly for 3 hours.

Ans: That is impossible since BOTH the aircrafts have the SAME internal Fuel capacity i.e. ~3000 Liters AND have the same engine.

2. LCA needs 20 hrs maintenance vs 6 hrs for Grippen.

Ans: Maintenance hours put in is a function of the confidence of the pilots in the fighter plane. An entirely new genus of aircraft necessarily results naturally in greater wariness of the pilots and their requirement that even the minutest doubts they may have be addressed.

It has NOTHING to do with the reliability of the Aircraft.

3. HAL has not been able to meet production target.

Ans: This is the only part that is true, which is why HAL has taken 2 important steps to address it.

i.) Start a SECOND production line
ii.) Outsource major sub-assemblies, including front fuselage, centre fuselage, rear fuselage and wings, to private industry.

 

[KapitaanAli]

There are only 3 points made in the entire article. All of them can be easily refuted.

1. LCA can fly for 59 mins while Grippen can fly for 3 hours.

Ans: That is impossible since BOTH the aircrafts have the SAME internal Fuel capacity i.e. ~3000 Liters AND have the same engine.

2. LCA needs 20 hrs maintenance vs 6 hrs for Grippen.

Ans: Maintenance hours put in is a function of the confidence of the pilots in the fighter plane. An entirely new genus of aircraft necessarily results naturally in greater wariness of the pilots and their requirement that even the minutest doubts they may have be addressed.

It has NOTHING to do with the reliability of the Aircraft.

3. HAL has not been able to meet production target.

Ans: This is the only part that is true, which is why HAL has taken 2 important steps to address it.

i.) Start a SECOND production line
ii.) Outsource major sub-assemblies, including front fuselage, centre fuselage, rear fuselage and wings, to private industry.

We've the habit of publishing/publicising the worst case since selling aircrafts to others is the business of the white man and not ours.
As a result, Tejas on paper can only fly 400-500 km and for only 59 minutes.

Who cares about technicalities like combat radius and ferry range and so on.
So, our neighbour has a less advanced aircraft of the same class that flies thousands of kilometres against our silly plane that flies 500 km.

How sad. I even heard 250 km.
We're doomed.

 

[Shankranthi]

We've the habit of publishing/publicising the worst case since selling aircrafts to others is the business of the white man and not ours.
As a result, Tejas on paper can only fly 400-500 km and for only 59 minutes.

Who cares about technicalities like combat radius and ferry range and so on.
So, our neighbour has a less advanced aircraft of the same class that flies thousands of kilometres against our silly plane that flies 500 km.

How sad. I even heard 250 km.
We're doomed.

Most of the presstitutes are paid to write BS articles. Its a lot cheaper to pay the journalist than to pay journals to advertise your aircrafts.

 

[Sharky]

F##$Ing ugly plane with a shitty name. People in this project should be shot along with their family for the billions of $ they looted in tax payers money due to their gross incompetence.