LCA a product of western companies, engineers, and consultants.

[knight11]

The whole PAC designing team,test pilots, technicians were in China from the start and Jointly designed it from scratch. Yeah it was first produced in China as PAC facilities were not upgraded and these were gradually upgraded to carry manufacturing operations of JF-17.
Yeah Russians were consultants, There was a time when even General Electric was also involved in the designing phase but that's a different story...

JF-17 is not a copy of MIG-21 instead it is the MIG-1.44 project whose blue prints and iprs was sold to china, so it can never be from the scratch, and before Pakistan joined the project, it was the US and the Israel who was helping china directly or indirectly.

Pakistan played a vital role in the development of the Cockpit, which resembles like the Swedish Saab Gripen and this is due the fact that Pakistan had more relationship with the Europeans than the china.

Confirmed orders by 2 states... Third might be SL.
Pak made munitions yes .. We offer PGMs,Anti runway series missiles (HAFR),anti armour cluster munitions.H series Stand off weapons,anti sub missiles,Glide bombs,etc etc

Pak has a 60% share in the project ...


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Rest of your post is BS... Due to massive butt hurt .. I pitty you... Enjoy the pain ... Buy truck load of burnol..

Your pain is understandable... Phatnay ki awaz idhar tak gonji thi ...

Desert fighter Bhai in a fighter plane there are 3 important parts
1, Airframe
2. Engine
3. Avionics (MMR, ECM, RWR, FLIR pods)

For 2nd and 3rd its Russian and Chinese.
For 1st which is airframe, I have seen the canopy loading into the PAF transport aircraft

So if licence producing some parts, and assembling makes that 60%, then I am afraid you fail to understand that the Engine is just one parts of those thousands parts which you want to calculate as one. Taking out such percentage if fills your mental thirst then go ahead.

There is no pakistani weapon for FC-1 yet.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

JF-17 is not a copy of MIG-21 instead it is the MIG-1.44 project whose blue prints and iprs was sold to china, so it can never be from the scratch, and before Pakistan joined the project, it was the US and the Israel who was helping china directly or indirectly.

Pakistan played a vital role in the development of the Cockpit, which resembles like the Swedish Saab Gripen and this is due the fact that Pakistan had more relationship with the Europeans than the china.




Desert fighter Bhai in a fighter plane there are 3 important parts
1, Airframe
2. Engine
3. Avionics (MMR, ECM, RWR, FLIR pods)

For 2nd and 3rd its Russian and Chinese.
For 1st which is airframe, I have seen the canopy loading into the PAF transport aircraft

So if licence producing some parts, and assembling makes that 60%, then I am afraid you fail to understand that the Engine is just one parts of those thousands parts which you want to calculate as one. Taking out such percentage if fills your mental thirst then go ahead.

There is no pakistani weapon for FC-1 yet.

Okay... Anything else you might like to add ?

 

[Gentelman]

JF-17 is not a copy of MIG-21 instead it is the MIG-1.44 project whose blue prints and iprs was sold to china, so it can never be from the scratch, and before Pakistan joined the project, it was the US and the Israel who was helping china directly or indirectly.

Pakistan played a vital role in the development of the Cockpit, which resembles like the Swedish Saab Gripen and this is due the fact that Pakistan had more relationship with the Europeans than the china.




Desert fighter Bhai in a fighter plane there are 3 important parts
1, Airframe
2. Engine
3. Avionics (MMR, ECM, RWR, FLIR pods)

For 2nd and 3rd its Russian and Chinese.
For 1st which is airframe, I have seen the canopy loading into the PAF transport aircraft

So if licence producing some parts, and assembling makes that 60%, then I am afraid you fail to understand that the Engine is just one parts of those thousands parts which you want to calculate as one. Taking out such percentage if fills your mental thirst then go ahead.

There is no pakistani weapon for FC-1 yet.

Firstly its not F-7 and if it makes you happy then you can call it whatever Mig you want I don't have any issue with it.
US helping china thing is quite lame as China was sanctioned after Tiananmen square incident tough there are stories of Israel selling design of Kafir etc with no proofs. Israeli technicians or personnels were not involved in this project directly or indirectly tough...
FLIR pods: not used on JF-17 (Pakistan have its own Flirs produced by AWC and can use when needed).
ECM is not chinese, its European.
and airframe as i said was designed by joint teams and tested by Pakistanis. yeah first produced in China as all development of jet was done there and the teams were there and they have ready to produce facilities. I don't see if its so hard to swallow.
btw as for Engine and Avionics: The user choose what it needs and is available at best price.

 

[knight11]

Okay... Anything else you might like to add ?

Here is my question... Are you on your periods..

This is only thing you can come up with. Keep Musing with Haq and co.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

This is only thing you can come up with. Keep Musing with Haq and co.

Depends on your caliber ... I mean ... Nobody takes an idiot seriously... And I'm following suite.. So basically I'm going down to your level and giving you a shut up call.. Just Coz you are too retarded..full of shyt no substance..

 

[911]

This is only thing you can come up with. Keep Musing with Haq and co.

He generally concentrates on insulting rather than debating. Its better to ignore him he has no knowledge on this topic.

 

[faithfulguy]

thts 240 firm orders!! Wait I thought only 40 confirmed,,,naval mk2 is decade away even mk1a is on paper ,,,any links?
if it wasnt for exports thn why do u think its going Bahrain even before getting FOC.

It's going to Bahran so it has experience performing for air shows. The main purpose of Tejas is to boost the pride of Indian people. Actual battles will be done by MKI and Rafale, etc.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

It's going to Bahran so it has experience performing for air shows. The main purpose of Tejas is to boost the pride of Indian people. Actual battles will be done by MKI and Rafale, etc.

Ahh... you know us so well... so Cute.

 

[faithfulguy]

If it was that easy as you described, then LCA already be very popular in IAF cause you receive help from all over the world. Sri Lankar had signed contract of 8 JF17 with Pakistan while turn down LCA shoved by Indian government. What a shame of Indian government to sell LCA by force that IAF don't want by itself.

It's for the purpose of made in India... Modi want to show that India is good at making things. But first, India need to show that if can but or maintain planes properly.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

It's for the purpose of made in India... Modi want to show that India is good at making things. But first, India need to show that if can but or maintain planes properly.

Yes... right now we are having aliens coming from mars to maintain our planes.

 

[911]

It's going to Bahran so it has experience performing for air shows. The main purpose of Tejas is to boost the pride of Indian people. Actual battles will be done by MKI and Rafale, etc.

It's for the purpose of made in India... Modi want to show that India is good at making things. But first, India need to show that if can but or maintain planes properly.

The bar will only be raised. Our concerns regarding indigenous technology are real. If it was only about boosting pride we could have painted any imported jet as our own.

 

[ni8mare]

MIG-1.44 project

not mig 1.44 but mig 33
Mikoyan MiG-33 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[faithfulguy]

Firstly its not F-7 and if it makes you happy then you can call it whatever Mig you want I don't have any issue with it.
US helping china thing is quite lame as China was sanctioned after Tiananmen square incident tough there are stories of Israel selling design of Kafir etc with no proofs. Israeli technicians or personnels were not involved in this project directly or indirectly tough...
FLIR pods: not used on JF-17 (Pakistan have its own Flirs produced by AWC and can use when needed).
ECM is not chinese, its European.
and airframe as i said was designed by joint teams and tested by Pakistanis. yeah first produced in China as all development of jet was done there and the teams were there and they have ready to produce facilities. I don't see if its so hard to swallow.
btw as for Engine and Avionics: The user choose what it needs and is available at best price.

To many Indians, Chinese people will always be behind because Orientals are an inferior people. This is because the Chinese looking NE Indians are ST people. So any Chinese ever move to India, they will be labelled as something equivalent of a scheduled tribe. So any possible advancement from China most be explained as a theft of superior western or Russian technology.

The white Europeans, after all, would be regarded as Aryan Brahmins. So the theft of low caste Chini from the superior caste Europeans fit very well into the caste system. As a result, any Chinese achievement must all be from theft.

 

[Grevion]

To many Indians, Chinese people will always be behind because Orientals are an inferior people. This is because the Chinese looking NE Indians are ST people. So any Chinese ever move to India, they will be labelled as something equivalent of a scheduled tribe. So any possible advancement from China most be explained as a theft of superior western or Russian technology.

The white Europeans, after all, would be regarded as Aryan Brahmins. So the theft of low caste Chini from the superior caste Europeans fit very well into the caste system. As a result, any Chinese achievement must all be from theft.

LOL a Taiwanese is being racist on South east Asians people.

 

[Gentelman]

To many Indians, Chinese people will always be behind because Orientals are an inferior people. This is because the Chinese looking NE Indians are ST people. So any Chinese ever move to India, they will be labelled as something equivalent of a scheduled tribe. So any possible advancement from China most be explained as a theft of superior western or Russian technology.

The white Europeans, after all, would be regarded as Aryan Brahmins. So the theft of low caste Chini from the superior caste Europeans fit very well into the caste system. As a result, any Chinese achievement must all be from theft.

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