Joe Shearer
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They could have come by boat if they wanted. No needing of leap frogging.
They did. That is the Vijaya myth. Precisely that.
Give me one evidence, just one.
Will I get paid for this? When I teach, I charge 2,000 an hour.
In the references below, I have deliberately omitted Indian authors, or authors who sound as if they might be Indian; I have also not cited text-books that might not be accessible to you, but simple, on-line references, so you can see for yourself.
- Holt, John (2011-04-13). The Sri Lanka Reader: History, Culture, Politics. Duke University Press.ISBN 0822349825.
- Schalk, Peter (2002). Buddhism Among Tamils in Pre-colonial Tamilakam and Ilam: Prologue. The Pre-Pallava and the Pallava Period. Acta Universitatis Upsaliensis. 19–20. Uppsala University. pp. 100–220.ISBN 91-554-5357-0.
#Excavated ceramicsequences similar to that of Arikamedu were found in Kandarodai (Kadiramalai) on the north coast, dated to 1300 BCE. Cultural similarities in burial practices in South India and Sri Lanka were dated by archaeologists to 10th century BCE. However, Indian history and archaeology have pushed the date back to 15th century BCE. In Sri Lanka, there is radiometric evidence from Anuradhapura that the non-Brahmi symbol-bearing black and red ware occur in the 10th century BCE. The skeletal remains of an Early Iron Age chief were excavated in Anaikoddai, Jaffna District. The name Ko Veta is engraved in Brahmi script on a seal buried with the skeleton and is assigned by the excavators to the 3rd century BCE. Ko, meaning "King" in Tamil, is comparable to such names as Ko Atan, Ko Putivira and Ko Ra-pumaan occurring in contemporary Tamil Brahmi inscriptions of ancient South India and Egypt.
#Potsherds with early Tamil writing from the 2nd century BCE have been found from the north in Poonagari, Kilinochchi District to the south in Tissamaharama. They bore several inscriptions, including a clan name—vela, a name related to velir from ancient Tamil country. Epigraphic evidence shows people identifying themselves as Damelas or Damedas (the Prakritword for Tamil people) in Anuradhapura, the capital city of Rajarata the middle kingdom, and other areas of Sri Lanka as early as the 2nd century BCE. Excavations in the area of Tissamaharama in southern Sri Lanka have unearthed locally issued coins, produced between the 2nd century BCE and the 2nd century CE, some of which carry local Tamil personal names written in early Tamil characters, which suggest that local Tamil merchants were present and actively involved in trade along the southern coast of Sri Lanka by the late classical period. Other ancient inscriptions from the period reference a Tamil merchant, the Tamil householder residing in Ilubharata[c] and a Tamil sailor named Karava.[d] Two of the five ancient inscriptions referring to the Damedas (Tamils) are in Periya Pullyakulam in the Vavuniya District, one is in Seruvavila in Trincomalee District, one is in Kuduvil in Ampara District and one is in Anuradhapura. Mention is made in literary sources of Tamil rulers bringing horses to the island in water craft in the second century BCE, most likely arriving at Kudiramalai. Historical records establish that Tamil kingdoms in modern India were closely involved in the island's affairs from about the 2nd century BCE. Kudiramalai, Kandarodai and Vallipuram served as great northern Tamil capitals and emporiums of trade with these kingdoms and the Romans from the 6th–2nd centuries BCE. The archaeological discoveries in these towns and the Manimekhalai, a historical poem, detail how Nāka-Tivu of Nāka-Nadu on the Jaffna Peninsula was a lucrative international market for pearl and conch trading for the Tamil fishermen.
#In Mahavamsa, a historical poem, ethnic Tamil adventurers such as Elara invaded the island around 145 BCE. Early Chola king Karikalan, son of Eelamcetcenni utilised superior Chola naval power to conquer Ceylon in the first century CE. Hindu Saivism, Tamil Buddhism, Jainism and secularism were popular amongst the Tamils at this time, as was the proliferation of village deity worship. The Amaravati school was influential in the region when the Telugu Satavahana dynasty established the Andhra empire and its 17th monarch Hāla (20–24 CE) married a princess from the island. Ancient Vanniars settled in the east of the island in the first few centuries of the common era to cultivate and maintain the area. The Vanni region flourished. In the 6th century CE, a special coastal route by boat was established from the Jaffna peninsula southwards to Saivite religious centres in Trincomalee (Koneswaram) and further south to Batticaloa (Thirukkovil), passed a few small Tamil trading settlements in Mullaitivu on the north coast. The conquests and rule of the island by Pallava kingNarasimhavarman I (630–668 CE) and his grandfather King Simhavishnu (537–590 CE) saw the erection and structural development of several Kovils around the island, particularly in the north-east – these Pallava Dravidian rock temples remained a popular and highly influential style of architecture in the region over the next few centuries. Tamil soldiers from what is now South India were brought to Anuradhapura between the 7th and 11th centuries CE in such large numbers that local chiefs and kings trying to establish legitimacy came to rely on them. By the 8th century CE Tamil villages were collectively known as Demel-kaballa (Tamil allotment), Demelat-valademin (Tamil villages), and Demel-gam-bim (Tamil villages and lands).
Since you talked with such expansive grandeur about the Dutch and the Portuguese, here's something for you:
Ok they weren't have being Bengalis. But we call them "X" group. They sure wasn't Sinhalese.
Contortions belong to a circus, not to academic discussions.
If they were Sinhalese. What happened to the rest of the group called Sinhalese who lived in those original Indian lands?
Here I am. There was no group called Sinhalese. They began to call themselves that long after settling down on the island. Their original name might have had Singh in it, as it is typical of Kshatriyas and later, in mediaeval times, of Rajputs; so Vijayasimha's name gave birth to Sinhala. They were not known as Sinhala anywhere else. Those they descended from became Biharis, and Maithils, and Bengalis, and Odiyas, and Tripuris, and Assamese (pre-Ahom ones).
I already did, genius. 40,000 BC comes before 34,000.
Why swimming. Aryan Language would have obviously come from a boat from India along with Buddhism.
But that's what I've been saying; that Tamil was local, Sinhala was exotic. Here, read for yourself.
The oldest Sinhalese Prakrit inscriptions found are from the third to second century BCE following the arrival of Buddhism in Sri Lanka, the oldest existing literary works date from the ninth century. The closest relative of Sinhalese is the language of theMaldives and Minicoy Island (India), the Maldivian language.
Pali had nothing to do with it, as I've been trying to explain to you. VERY patiently.
You obviously don't know the history of Jaffna.
http://www.island.lk/2006/04/01/satmag1.html
Try not to embarrass yourself more than you can help. Don't put up some silly blog against serious history.
Here is some non-serious history to get your digestive juices started.
- The two groups of Tamils located in Sri Lanka are the Sri Lankan Tamils and the Indian Tamils.
- There also exists a significant population in Sri Lanka who are native speakers of Tamil language and are of Islamic faith. Though several evidence point them towards being ethnic Tamils, they are however controversially listed as a separate ethnic group by the Sri Lankan government.
- Sri Lankan Tamils (also called Ceylon Tamils) are descendants of the Tamils of the old Jaffna Kingdom and east coast chieftaincies called Vannimais.
- The Indian Tamils (or Hill Country Tamils) are descendants of bonded labourers sent from Tamil Nadu to Sri Lanka in the 19th century to work on tea plantations.
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