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Lanka can't toe India line on 13th Amendment: Gotabaya

Past is past. We have interfered in the country now, and now its our prerogative to find a balanced solution before coming out. Do we not?
How can we call ourself a regional power, when we cannot even implement the promise SL gave to us? We "interfered" in East Pakistan?
We are not interfering in day to day activities of their nation. Just implement the promise made to india. U are an Indian arent u? Didnt we guys feel when Italy, went back on its word, on marines issue?
Why double standards then??

Look you are comparing apples and oranges.. The issue with Italy is they killed two Indians inside Indian territtory.. As for Sri Lanka is concerened, Its their country, their people.. The Tamils are acting like Ummah brothers here.. We were the first one to jump on guns if some random muslim guy from some other country preaches us about the welfare of muslims in our country.. You and me know how it feels.. The same can applied to Sri Lankans here.. As for a sovergein country, their country men comes first, not the concerns of their neighbours. We can take strong action against them, if they are sheilding anti India elements there.. Their people elected the leader to serve them not us.. We have to respect their sentiments also.. We cannot force any one to respect us we have to earn them..
 
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Look you are comparing apples and oranges.. The issue with Italy is they killed two Indians inside Indian territtory.. As for Sri Lanka is concerened, Its their country, their people.. The Tamils are acting like Ummah brothers here.. We were the first one to jump on guns if some random muslim guy from some other country preaches us about the welfare of muslims in our country.. You and me know how it feels.. The same can applied to Sri Lankans here.. As for a sovergein country, their country men comes first, not the concerns of their neighbours. We can take strong action against them, if they are sheilding anti India elements there.. Their people elected the leader to serve them not us.. We have to respect their sentiments also.. We cannot force any one to respect us we have to earn them..

I told u. Still what was the need to liberate East Pakistan? U want India to be a silent spectator when a section of people were butchered in past? I am sure, if IG was there, there would have been a solution by now.
I repeat my question. I do not want an armed resistance anymore. Fine. Then y did we help BD?
Then nearly 400 fishermens got killed from TN side. Who is responsible? Even Pakistan don kill our fishermens when they cross border. What do u say to that?
Am not comparing apples with Oranges with apples. I am comparing the word or promise given by a sovereign nation to us. Italy and SL gave their word to us. U dont them to be implemented?
And still no responsibility for 40k people killed? If India, don raise the voice who will?
 
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why this rant? i asked about whether referendum is acceptable or not?

Why does SL need a referendum? If it is an unpopular policy, by all means do away with it.

Why we need to interfere in their country's issue?? Do you like any other country interfering in our country's matter??


SL tamil movement was a non-violence movement against the discrimination which started immediately against the tamils post-SL independence. India interfered with SL affairs and SL tamil movement for its own interest and not for Tamilian interests turning a non-violent tamil movement into a violent one by arming and training some rag tag militants. 13th amendment is the stuff India came up with in 1980s and signed a treaty with SL on behalf SL tamils. 13th plus amendment is a promise Rajapakshe brothers made to India and got India involved in the SL-LTTE war in 2000s turning the tide against LTTE.

In short, India has been interfering and had hijacked SL tamil issue.And suddenly many here are talking about interference in another sovereign country while it is the SL tamilians who have been left grasping at straws. Now India/Indians does not have the moral authority to speak about inteference or talk about referendum when the 13th amendment itself was something India created and dangled it as a solution for SL tamil issue.
 
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13th Amendment is useless one, it makes provincial tugs.

But that is the same freedom every province or state enjoys in India even Jammu and Kashmir( if i am not wrong). But then i understand SriLankan people still dont entirely trust the Tamil population but i think its time to give them a chance after all they are also Lankan just like everybody else.
 
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But that is the same freedom every province or state enjoys in India even Jammu and Kashmir( if i am not wrong). But then i understand SriLankan people still dont entirely trust the Tamil population but i think its time to give them a chance after all they are also Lankan just like everybody else.

Don't compare Indian system with Sri Lanka, we are two different countries based on two different systems.


If Tamils face difficulties and need a solution it must be cover the entire Tamil population in our country not just around 5% of Tamils in the north. One ethnic should not have special features based on the area they live, it makes unbalanced society which can lead to more issues. What GoSL must do, secure the rights of every Sri Lankan every corner of the country.
 
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But that is the same freedom every province or state enjoys in India even Jammu and Kashmir( if i am not wrong). But then i understand SriLankan people still dont entirely trust the Tamil population but i think its time to give them a chance after all they are also Lankan just like everybody else.

I agree on devolution of power to the provinces except Police and Land..SL is too small of an entity to separate those powers from the centre unlike India. Here most of those things overlap due to the close proximity of communities.. We need to find a suitable solution for this locally.. The 13th amendment was bought in for the interest of India with the ground situation at the time also due to regional power politics(Ironically both the LTTE and the hard-line Sinhala polity rejected the 13A).. Things are completely different now on both aspects.. Also the provincial council system has been a complete failure where it is implemented outside the North.. It has become a hot bed for political thugs and corruption without any benefit for those people in the provinces

The only people who vie for that is separatist TNA politicians to further their aspirations and those jokers in TN and the Tamil LTTE diaspora who wish this could be an ultimate stepping stone for their wet dream Eelam ..Both the Muslims and TOI(Indian origin) Tamils, The two largest minorities are averse to the 13A.. As I have highlighted before
 
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Sri Lanka should do away with this foreign imposed ammendment. India is nobody to incorporate any such ammendment in Sri Lankan constitution for runing SL internal affairs
 
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13 gotta go....
The 13 th amendment may have been brought by the Indians but still it did serve and will serve the Lankan interests. I know it is hard for ppl who feed on Sinhala hardline propaganda to understand why we need power devolution, but the fact remains SL NEED power devolution. SL tamils ask for that. U cant arrogantly dismiss ’13 must go’. Only an idiot with NO understanding of Lankan issue will say that.

I told u. Still what was the need to liberate East Pakistan? U want India to be a silent spectator when a section of people were butchered in past? I am sure, if IG was there, there would have been a solution by now.
I repeat my question. I do not want an armed resistance anymore. Fine. Then y did we help BD?
Then nearly 400 fishermens got killed from TN side. Who is responsible? Even Pakistan don kill our fishermens when they cross border. What do u say to that?
And still no responsibility for 40k people killed? If India, don raise the voice who will?
What butchering are u talking about? Just because u ppl keep repeating the same thing 1000 times it doesn’t become a fact. There was NO such a butchering, what we had was a WAR and loss of human lives is common in war even though how tragic it is. This is especially when one side hid behind civilians, killed fleeing civilians, positioned their guns in the middle of civilians and taking them as a human shield.
About Bangladesh, India didn’t separate Pakistan because they wanted to help Bangladesh but because it is strategically important to them. Got it? So don’t bring BD theory anymore!
And from where is that number of 400 fishermen killed? Was a single TN fishermen killed in 2012? In 2013? Most of these cases are TN fishermen not returning after they have gone to the sea. These ppl then assume that these fishermen are killed by the Lankan navy. Lankan navy was engaged in a war with LTTE, not with some TN thieves at sea.
13th Amendment is useless one, it makes provincial tugs.
13 was brought to find solutions for Lankan problem. If u don’t know it has been in practice through out SL except in North. And it is useful for both Sinhalese and Tamils. Actually if one look at history 13 th amendment is the best thing that happened to both Sinhalese n Tamils and overall for Lanka.
Don't compare Indian system with Sri Lanka, we are two different countries based on two different systems.
The best country for Lanka to be compared with is india.

If Tamils face difficulties and need a solution it must be cover the entire Tamil population in our country not just around 5% of Tamils in the north. One ethnic should not have special features based on the area they live, it makes unbalanced society which can lead to more issues. What GoSL must do, secure the rights of every Sri Lankan every corner of the country.
Yes it covers the entire SL Tamil people. And the the tamil in north are not some 5%, but like 65% of the whole Tamil community, also the non resident SL tamils, Colombo Tamils as well. Also the pro gov Devananda and Pilleyan also pro devolution and they want 13 A.
“ One ethnic should not have special features based on the area they live, it makes unbalanced society which can lead to more issues.”
Exactly that is why 13 A is implemented all over the country and not just tamil area. Power devolution solve issues.
We need to find a suitable solution for this locally.. The 13th amendment was bought in for the interest of India with the ground situation at the time also due to regional power politics(Ironically both the LTTE and the hard-line Sinhala polity rejected the 13A.. Also the provincial council system has been a complete failure where it is implemented outside the North.. It has become a hot bed for political thugs and corruption without any benefit for those people in the provinces
The most suitable thing as a starting point is the 13th A. As I said earlier though india brought it, the 13A works in the interests of Lanka and all her communities. Actually 13A is good for many Sinhala people in down south and rural areas though they don’t effectively use it.
How do u say PC system is a failure? Politics in SL has been a hot bed for thugs even before PC were introduced. The problem is not in PC or 13 A but in the political culture in SL. IF the people in south used their head and sent good, educated decent people to the PCs the people would have gained a lot.
The only people who vie for that is separatist TNA politicians to further their aspirations and those jokers in TN and the Tamil LTTE diaspora who wish this could be an ultimate stepping stone for their wet dream Eelam ..Both the Muslims and TOI(Indian origin) Tamils, The two largest minorities are averse to the 13A.. As I have highlighted before
How bad TNA is, it is voted for power by the tamil people. Also TNA is diverse not like that it used to be. As there is no more LTTE, they don’t act like a LTTE proxy anymore. I know there are undesirable people in TNA but still there are people who have agreed for a united SL.
Also India has sternly told them india would not allow a separate eelam.
Actually all the people in N and E ask for power devolution, Indian Tamils don’t have problems like the SL tamils.
 
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@Saradiel first learn what type of system Sri Lanka has and India got.
 
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The 13 th amendment may have been brought by the Indians but still it did serve and will serve the Lankan interests.

What kind a interests has it serves or served Sri Lanka? Can you explain?


but the fact remains SL NEED power devolution.

Power devolution doesn't mean sharing power with provincial councils alone.


Actually if one look at history 13 th amendment is the best thing that happened to both Sinhalese n Tamils and overall for Lanka.

The best country for Lanka to be compared with is india.

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The 13 th amendment may have been brought by the Indians but still it did serve and will serve the Lankan interests. I know it is hard for ppl who feed on Sinhala hardline propaganda to understand why we need power devolution, but the fact remains SL NEED power devolution. SL tamils ask for that. U cant arrogantly dismiss ’13 must go’. Only an idiot with NO understanding of Lankan issue will say that.


What butchering are u talking about? Just because u ppl keep repeating the same thing 1000 times it doesn’t become a fact. There was NO such a butchering, what we had was a WAR and loss of human lives is common in war even though how tragic it is. This is especially when one side hid behind civilians, killed fleeing civilians, positioned their guns in the middle of civilians and taking them as a human shield.
About Bangladesh, India didn’t separate Pakistan because they wanted to help Bangladesh but because it is strategically important to them. Got it? So don’t bring BD theory anymore!
And from where is that number of 400 fishermen killed? Was a single TN fishermen killed in 2012? In 2013? Most of these cases are TN fishermen not returning after they have gone to the sea. These ppl then assume that these fishermen are killed by the Lankan navy. Lankan navy was engaged in a war with LTTE, not with some TN thieves at sea.

13 was brought to find solutions for Lankan problem. If u don’t know it has been in practice through out SL except in North. And it is useful for both Sinhalese and Tamils. Actually if one look at history 13 th amendment is the best thing that happened to both Sinhalese n Tamils and overall for Lanka.

The best country for Lanka to be compared with is india.


Yes it covers the entire SL Tamil people. And the the tamil in north are not some 5%, but like 65% of the whole Tamil community, also the non resident SL tamils, Colombo Tamils as well. Also the pro gov Devananda and Pilleyan also pro devolution and they want 13 A.
“ One ethnic should not have special features based on the area they live, it makes unbalanced society which can lead to more issues.”
Exactly that is why 13 A is implemented all over the country and not just tamil area. Power devolution solve issues.

The most suitable thing as a starting point is the 13th A. As I said earlier though india brought it, the 13A works in the interests of Lanka and all her communities. Actually 13A is good for many Sinhala people in down south and rural areas though they don’t effectively use it.
How do u say PC system is a failure? Politics in SL has been a hot bed for thugs even before PC were introduced. The problem is not in PC or 13 A but in the political culture in SL. IF the people in south used their head and sent good, educated decent people to the PCs the people would have gained a lot.

How bad TNA is, it is voted for power by the tamil people. Also TNA is diverse not like that it used to be. As there is no more LTTE, they don’t act like a LTTE proxy anymore. I know there are undesirable people in TNA but still there are people who have agreed for a united SL.
Also India has sternly told them india would not allow a separate eelam.
Actually all the people in N and E ask for power devolution, Indian Tamils don’t have problems like the SL tamils.

Are u even talking sense? So u mean no fishermens were killed from 2007-2011? Werent they human lives?
I am not repeating it. The UN is repeating it. WhAT have u done to prove it wrong? U are a constituent of UN , arent u?
U guys don even allow internal probe, forget external probe. I say, if u guys had moved in slowly, the war at best, might have extended 2 more months. BUt SL army might have been victorious with less civilian casulties. First prove urself correct with the no of dead people massacred. Then to the world.
 
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Look you are comparing apples and oranges.. The issue with Italy is they killed two Indians inside Indian territtory.. As for Sri Lanka is concerened, Its their country, their people.. The Tamils are acting like Ummah brothers here.. We were the first one to jump on guns if some random muslim guy from some other country preaches us about the welfare of muslims in our country.. You and me know how it feels.. The same can applied to Sri Lankans here.. As for a sovergein country, their country men comes first, not the concerns of their neighbours. We can take strong action against them, if they are sheilding anti India elements there.. Their people elected the leader to serve them not us.. We have to respect their sentiments also.. We cannot force any one to respect us we have to earn them..
Tamils of India and Lanka have very close ties. Cultural, ethnic and familial. We have more in common with them than an Indian from another state. So , no we cannot ignore what's happening there. New Delhi cannot use and abuse this issue when it pleases.
 
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I agree on devolution of power to the provinces except Police and Land..SL is too small of an entity to separate those powers from the centre unlike India. Here most of those things overlap due to the close proximity of communities.. We need to find a suitable solution for this locally.. The 13th amendment was bought in for the interest of India with the ground situation at the time also due to regional power politics(Ironically both the LTTE and the hard-line Sinhala polity rejected the 13A).. Things are completely different now on both aspects.. Also the provincial council system has been a complete failure where it is implemented outside the North.. It has become a hot bed for political thugs and corruption without any benefit for those people in the provinces

The only people who vie for that is separatist TNA politicians to further their aspirations and those jokers in TN and the Tamil LTTE diaspora who wish this could be an ultimate stepping stone for their wet dream Eelam ..Both the Muslims and TOI(Indian origin) Tamils, The two largest minorities are averse to the 13A.. As I have highlighted before

If what you say is the reality then i agree the article should be removed and yes Srilanka is to small for such an arrangement its a valid point.
 
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what can India do ? MR will do what majority of SLns want...
 
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