Land of the impure

[Chow chow]

Key word: Growing

So the point is despite floods, earthquakes, insurgencies, suicide bombings we're still growing, so just imagine how fast our economy will recover when this WOT is over, whereas if india were in Pakistan's place your country would probably have been broken into so many independent states by now due to the many insurgencies in your country.

Thats just an excuse to hide your incompetence. .!!

Look at Sri lanka they faced war for mare than a decade but continued to grow during that period.

 

[Nalwa]

you should learn some facts about battles of that era. . . . rape was common in every battle. . . If you don't allow your soldiers to loot or rape . . Surely you will not get them in the next battle. . They were not pious Jihadis led by khalid bin walid. . They were common soldiers. . . So you can't call Sultan Mahmoud rapist. . Everyone did it. . .. . Try to read about their life history. . Even Babur faced rebellion from his local tribes after not allowing them to loot samarkhand...

The point here is that the Muslim invaders were no different than others. And on top of that they were outsiders to these lands and hence invaders. So why has some invader been glorified? Just because of the common religion? Pretty pathetic and self serving I'd say.

 

[Desert Fox]

Thats just an excuse to hide your incompetence. .!!

Look at Sri lanka they faced war for mare than a decade but continued to grow during that period.

Sri Lanka doesn't have a country more than 5 times its size threatening to cut it in half.

 

[Hulk]

Sri Lanka doesn't have a country more than 5 times its size threatening to cut it in half.

Imaginary threat is what I can say.

 

[Hulk]

you should learn some facts about battles of that era. . . . rape was common in every battle. . . If you don't allow your soldiers to loot or rape . . Surely you will not get them in the next battle. . They were not pious Jihadis led by khalid bin walid. . They were common soldiers. . . So you can't call Sultan Mahmoud rapist. . Everyone did it. . .. . Try to read about their life history. . Even Babur faced rebellion from his local tribes after not allowing them to loot samarkhand...

If everyone did it, then why glorify who did it?

 

[Veeru]

By a quirk of fate, the Indian Campaign of Alexander the Macedonian was restricted entirely to what is now Pakistan. After his death in 322 BCE, his empire disintegrated and the brilliant Chandragupta Maurya rose to power in a great kingdom that spread across much of the subcontinent. Asoka, who outshone his grandsire, extended his rule to most of Afghanistan, even wresting bits of that country from its Greek masters.

The decay of the Mauryan Empire gave rise to a new wave of Greek adventurers. In or about the year 184 BCE, Demetrius, the first of the Euthydemid line of kings, left his seat of power at Balkh from where he controlled Afghanistan, and annexed Taxila. Not two decades had passed when another line of Greek adventurers, the descendents of Alexander’s general Seleucus Nikator, displaced the Euthydemids to become masters of first Taxila and Sialkot and eventually most of what is now Pakistan.

Far away in the east, the caste-conscious rulers of Patliputra (Patna) looked upon this parade of outsiders with disdain. The Yavanas (the local pronunciation of the Persian Yunani from Ionian) were despised people. For the Pundits of the east, these people were the Mlechha — unclean ones. There was, in that early pre-Islamic age, no appreciation for the white-skinned foreigners. By extension, the land of the outsiders became Mlechha Desa — Land of the unclean.

The power of the Greeks eventually waned and a hundred years after Eucratides, the Seleucid king, had taken Taxila, Punjab and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa fell to Scythian hordes. Under their able king, Maues, these people rose in power and even before Maues died, they had spread across what is now Pakistan.

Having been in fashion for more than a hundred years, the title of Mlechha Desa now stuck fast. This was the land customarily under control of the impure, unclean outsiders. Little did it matter to the high caste Pundits of the east that they and outsiders in reality sprang from the common Indo-Aryan stock separated only by some scores of generations. Nevertheless, there was clearly no admiration for the newcomers; there was only revulsion.

This remained the case for the next millennium. It was only subsequent to the Muslim influx into the subcontinent when a sufficiently large number of conversions led to friction between the old established belief system and the new, that the first seeds of ‘love for the tormentor’, the invading newcomer, were sown. This was largely because the invader was now always Muslim (save Chengez Khan) and looked upon by the converts of India as a saviour.

Mahmud Ghaznavi, a Turk erroneously adopted by the Pathans as one of them, who raped and looted regardless of the religion of his victim, was lionised simply for being a Muslim. Few care to know that while this common brigand descended upon India in the winters, he routinely pillaged the rich (Muslim) cities of Central Asia. Only Abu Rehan Al Beruni got the real measure of this robber chief: Never in his life did he refer to him as Imad ud Daula, Sultan Ghazi etc. For Al Beruni, he was forever plain Amir Mahmud.

The cowardly Jalaluddin Khwarazm flying in front of the superior arms and tactics of Chengez Khan was turned into a hero by that sham historian Nasim Hijazi. This spineless man abandoned his family to the Mongols, knowing full well what they did to their adversaries, and fled to watch their rape and plunder from the safe side of the Sindhu River.
Subsequently, he indulged in wholesale slaughter in Multan, Uch and Bhambore (all Muslim cities) and utterely sacked Pari Nagar, a rich and fabulous city shared by Hindus and Muslims in Tharparkar. Mindless of all this savagery, we, in our ignorance, shamelessly permitted the spurious work of Hijazi to hone our love for this tormentor.

There is clearly a lack of national pride. There can be no other reason that we worship invaders who raped, looted and sacked our cities. We worship them and name sons after them only because we share the same religion with them.

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Published in The Express Tribune, June 11th, 2011.

The last paragraph holds the real truth but the repetitive use of pundits etc. shows the lack of knowledge and prejudice.

The writer don't know that "Chandragupta Maurya" the writer is talking about was himself a so called shudra/dalit ruling more then half of India+Pakistan.

 

[pak-marine]

you should learn some facts about battles of that era. . . . rape was common in every battle. . . If you don't allow your soldiers to loot or rape . . Surely you will not get them in the next battle. . They were not pious Jihadis led by khalid bin walid. . They were common soldiers. . . So you can't call Sultan Mahmoud rapist. . Everyone did it. . .. . Try to read about their life history. . Even Babur faced rebellion from his local tribes after not allowing them to loot samarkhand...

What is your opinion on those occupying forces who are accused of rape and looting local wealth in muslim lands? This act was after few hundred years of Islam not before (which we call Jahiliya era) arent these acts commited by the subject(s) in human , there are sayings in Islam against this tyrany and they are punishable!

 

[Hulk]

The reason they admire Muslim warriors because they consider religion over nation, while practically nation is your identity you hold passport of nation to identify yourself not a religious identity. So what world considers identity far supersedes few disillusioned minds. Not a single country will take your religious identity. Even Arabs identify them as Arabs first.

 

[nForce]

Sri Lanka doesn't have a country more than 5 times its size threatening to cut it in half.

A n underlying indication towards India... ehh?? Well you lost East Pakistan more due to your internal troubles than due to India isnt it??

You make a constitution,and then when someone from East Pakistan wins a majority,but the west denies that and instead send forces who rape thousands and murder millions,one of the largest organized massacres of modern history....Do you think after all this,they would like to be a part of the same entity??

 

[Karachiite]

Lol man .
How could u even call Bangladesh as least developed country .
They are growing at 6-7% at a year .
And Pakistan economy isnt growing at 10% , it is growing at meagre 2-3% .

And Afghanistan is growing at 40%. Now does that mean it is much more better then China? The fact is Bangladesh is still considered a LDC. And despite natural disasters, war and what not Pakistan still manages to grow at 2-4% which is amazing.

personal attack!! Just chill. My family never migrated . . I have traced back .. We are in the same place since 1800.. It is you who is displaced.

Half of your country's population doesn't live in Bangladesh. There are like 3 million illegal Bangladeshis in Karachi alone.

 

[PakistaniPacifist]

Khalib Bin Waleed was not a pious muslim!

I find it amusing when feeble Indian’s like to talk about history just worry about what is going on around the gangetic plains before talking about Pakistan. You need to get your head's out of our backsides and stop worshipping us!

Indian’s have an infatuation with this Ranjit Singh and constantly blurt him name out on these forums, Pakistani don’t give two cahoots about this guy even if he was Pakistani, he may be a source of pride for Indian Punjabi’s but someone needs to go to his grave as whisper to him who runs Lahore! Indian Punjabi’s need to accept the fact that Khalistan is a wet dream and just accept the fact Indian Hindu rule over them has been extremely effective and dominant.

 

[ramu]

Sri Lanka doesn't have a country more than 5 times its size threatening to cut it in half.

But nothing stops SriLanka from getting paranoid about a country 20 times its size. Every body has an excuse.

 

[ramu]

Khalib Bin Waleed was not a pious muslim!

I find it amusing when feeble Indian’s like to talk about history just worry about what is going on around the gangetic plains before talking about Pakistan. You need to get your head's out of our backsides and stop worshipping us!

Indian’s have an infatuation with this Ranjit Singh and constantly blurt him name out on these forums, Pakistani don’t give two cahoots about this guy even if he was Pakistani, he may be a source of pride for Indian Punjabi’s but someone needs to go to his grave as whisper to him who runs Lahore! Indian Punjabi’s need to accept the fact that Khalistan is a wet dream and just accept the fact Indian Hindu rule over them has been extremely effective and dominant.

Dude, just because you have a way to vent out your frustration, don't write sh!t. Please don't teach history when your textbooks are rewritten to suit Pak tastes.

 

[OrionHunter]

We worship them and name sons after them only because we share the same religion with them.

And even name missiles after them!!

 

[PakistaniPacifist]

Dude, just because you have a way to vent out your frustration, don't write sh!t. Please don't teach history when your textbooks are rewritten to suit Pak tastes.

Dude, just because you have a way to vent out your frustration, don't write sh!t. Please don't teach history when your textbooks are rewritten to suit Pak tastes.

Indian put some soap in your mouth before you open it to converse with a Pakistani!

Yeah, we all know how factually correct Indian history is when your Hindutva brigade tries to help forge your nation a new identity. I pity you Indians!