King Abdullah of Jordan warns of “massive conflict” if Israel proceeds with annexation

[Naofumi]

There are 100's of different ethnic groups and languages in India, Northern India included. Do you deny this well-known reality?

Prove this well known reality please.

 

[Cliftonite]

Maybe you should educate yourself a bit instead of remaining illiterate? Dilmun, Sumer, Magan, Al-Magar, Thamud etc. are all native civilizations to Arabia which predate IVC and those that you have mentioned. Mesopotamia is/was Semitic and there is no difference, nor even a geographical barrier, between Arabia and Mesopotamia. In fact all of Southern Iraq is geographically a part of Arabia. Mesopotamia is a historical region. Just like Eastern Arabia is. Hijaz is. Southern Arabia is. Northern Arabia is. All those are closely related Semitic civilizations native to the Arab Near East. Closely connected linguistically, genetically and culturally. They are all a part of the Arab heritage whether you like it or not. We are their sons and daughters.

We are talking times that predate modern-day ethnic groups genius, at the time of those civilizations there was no Persian (who appeared in history 2500 years ago, 500 years prior to Arabs), Arabs, Pakistanis etc. Elam was not Persian either you clueless clown. They were not even Iranic nor did they speak any Iranic language. They spoke a LANGUAGE isolate. And they are located in Al-Ahwaz the Arab inhabited area of Iran next to Iraq.

The historical facts remains the same. The world's most ancient civilizations and cities are located in the Arab near East. Created by sons and daughters of the soil. Entities that can only be claimed by modern-day Arabs as we are their descendants.

Sure. Whatever you say. I didn't know we're using the term Arab for every Middle Eastern civilisation now. Next you'll be claiming Gobekli Tepe and Luxor as Arab too.

 

[Philosopher]

All off topic posts will be reported from now on. This thread has gotten completely off track. Please stay focused.

 

[Naofumi]

Muslims of Northern India are not a unified or even an ethnic group. They are a cultural/religious group. Hence your talk about culture and cuisine (lol). Those people belonged to a huge variety of ethnic groups etc. before they adopted the Muslim identity. Later they adopted Urdu/Hindi which is also heavily influenced by foreign tongues not native to Northern India that I already explained.

Hindus are same in these regions are same too they speak one language - Hindi, a variety of mutually intelligible Urdu.

I will try again. Which scholarly work anywhere on the planet talks about an "Indian ethnicity" as you claimed? Is it a lie when I correctly state that India (the modern-day 73 year old entity) is one of the most ethnically, racially and linguistically diverse areas of the planet home to literally 100's of distinct ethnic groups?

Start here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asian_ethnic_groups

 

[Falcon29]

All off topic posts will be reported from now on. This thread has gotten completely off track. Please stay focused.

What do you want people to talk about? Jordanian King gave his warning, now we wait till July to see if Israel will move forward with annexation of settlements in the Palestinian West Bank.

 

[Philosopher]

What do you want people to talk about? Jordanian King gave his warning, now we wait till July to see if Israel will move forward with annexation of settlements in the Palestinian West Bank.

If you have nothing to discuss on topic, then I suggest you kindly not post off topic comments and allow others to discuss.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Sure. Whatever you say. I didn't know we're using the term Arab for every Middle Eastern civilisation now. Next you'll be claiming Gobekli Tepe and Luxor as Arab too.

This is what happens when you are left without any academic replies after having been exposed due to your ignorant writings for all to see. You couture up some made up drivel (2 lines) as a counter that I never wrote to somehow give your lies "legitimacy". Read again what I wrote about that time period and how that time period predates all existing ethnic groups and how only modern-day Arabs native to those lands can claim those ancient NATIVE civilizations to our lands. It is very simple. If you do not understand this simple premise, you should follow suit and refuse to claim the IVC going by your logic.

I have studied the history of the Arab world and that of the Middle East for 10 + years and probably read 100 + books/scholarly papers about the subjects related to what we are discussing currently. I have created 10's of threads on PDF as well dealing with many related topics.

So, excuse me if I don't take such discussions with obviously completely clueless counterparts seriously. I suggest sticking to whatever drivel you were writing before I countered it, just pray and hope that you won't be ridiculed in professional settings or even in serious online discussions.

Funny how that Indian @Naofumi troll, after being schooled intellectually throughout this debate, is thanking all the posts of my opponents no matter how idiotic they are. Talk about a complex.

 

[Falcon29]

If you have nothing to discuss on topic, then I suggest you kindly not post off topic comments and allow others to discuss.

Nothing in my post is off topic, I am asking you, the creator of the thread, what are your thoughts on this topic? What do you want to happen?

 

[Naofumi]

The difference between say an Indian from Tamil Nadu and an Indian from Rajahstan is far greater than any difference in the Middle East, let alone the Arab world. Or the Mongoloid Northeastern provinces of India. India, in terms of ethnic and linguistic diversity, is a continent of its own. There is no similarly between Pakistan, which is composed of 4 main native ethnic groups, Bangladesh (1 main ethnic group = Bengalis), Nepalis or Sri Lankans (Sinhalese, Tamils and the Moors who claim Arab ancestry and supposedly are a mixture of Arab merchants/settlers and Tamils).

Lol, here's your much talked ethnic groups

Even on further division.

Now prove that there are more than these ethnic groups with population more than 1 million.

Funny how that Indian @Naofumi troll, after being schooled intellectually throughout this debate, is thanking all the posts of my opponents no matter how idiotic they are. Talk about a complex.

But this doesn't change that you don't know shit about India.

 

[Philosopher]

Nothing in my post is off topic, I am asking you, the creator of the thread, what are your thoughts on this topic? What do you want to happen?

You have made multiple off topic comments, bringing irrelevant issues into this thread.

As for what I "want" to happen. This is not a topic based on my subjective thoughts, its based on the comments of a leader of a sovereign nation. Whether his word will turn into reality, only time will tell.

 

[Naram_Sin]

I,m sure any Israeli viewing this thread would be very pleased.

 

[Falcon29]

You have made multiple off topic comments, bringing irrelevant issues into this thread.

As for what I "want" to happen. This is not a topic based on my subjective thoughts, its based on the comments of a leader of a sovereign nation. Whether his word will turn into reality, only time will tell.

This makes no sense, so you have no interest in the topic? You surely have thoughts on it. So I am asking you again, what do you think Jordan should do in event Israeli's moved ahead with annexation and how should the region respond to it? I'm asking for your perspective and not sure why you are taking this the wrong way.

 

[Philosopher]

I'm asking for your perspective and not sure why you are taking this the wrong way.

If you are interested in a constructive engagement, perhaps do not come first making accusation of me having "Iranian agenda" and so on. Sadly you appear to have a history of such behaviour.

 

[Falcon29]

I,m sure any Israeli viewing this thread would be very pleased.

This is your perspective as you are a weak person who is mind controlled by them. Not everything revolves around Israeli's. You give them way too much credit and you downplay other bad actors in region and support corruption.

 

[Naofumi]

North Indian Muslims, mostly low caste Hindu converts to Islam in the past 5 centuries (since the time of the Mughal empire) do not constitute an ethnic group and never did. Them adopting Urdu, in many ways a foreign language, does not turn them into some non-existing "Urdu" ethnicity. Urdu is a recent constructed language.

Hindus of every caste use it uniformly too in that orange region. Or ask Saudi university.

How abut you counter what I wrote instead of posting maps of entire freaking language families? I repeat, which every scholarly work on this topic confirms as well, there is no such thing as an "Indian ethnicity". Never was and never will be. It is a modern 73 year old nationality. There are 100's of vastly different ethnic and linguistic groups in India and in terms of diversity India is comparable to Sub-Saharan Africa.

Why don't you prove this?