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If our dear Pakistani friend is pseudo-Iranian for following a religious figure from Iran, then aren't all muslims pseudo-Arab for following a religious figure from Arabia ?

I know you hate Islam with every inch of your soul but Prophet Muhammad is not a "religious figure" in the same category of khameni. Not by a long shot.
 
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Just because someone claims to be a prophet does not mean it is the truth. It is your belief but may not be shared by others. Jesus is claimed to be Son of God - do you share that belief ?

If Khamenei claimed to be a prophet, would it satisfy you ? I think some call him deputy of "Imam Mahdi". Some even said Khomeini was the 12th Imam, and he never denied it. Again it is the belief of those who believe, you may not share that belief.

That is why I use the term religious figure for all who claim a special place, above the law, above other humans, representatives of "God".

And, I don't hate Islam but I am not with those who use Islam to force their opinions and dogma on others. Everyone is free to believe what they like, but don't impose your opinion on others. That's all.

I know you hate Islam with every inch of your soul but Prophet Muhammad is not a "religious figure" in the same category of khameni. Not by a long shot.
 
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Just because someone claims they are a prophet does not mean they are telling the truth. It is your belief but may not be shared by others.

If Khamenei claimed to be a prophet, would it satisfy you ? I think some call him deputy of "Imam Mahdi". Some even said Khomeini was the 12th Imam, and he never denied it. Again it is the belief of those who believe, you may not share that belief.

And, I don't hate Islam but I am not with those who use Islam to force their opinions and dogma on others. Everyone is free to believe what they like, but don't impose your opinion on others. That's all.

What you're saying is irrelevant to the topic friend.
 
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Just because someone claims to be a prophet does not mean it is the truth. It is your belief but may not be shared by others. Jesus is claimed to be Son of God - do you share that belief ?

If Khamenei claimed to be a prophet, would it satisfy you ? I think some call him deputy of "Imam Mahdi". Some even said Khomeini was the 12th Imam, and he never denied it. Again it is the belief of those who believe, you may not share that belief.

That is why I use the term religious figure for all who claim a special place, above the law, above other humans, representatives of "God".

And, I don't hate Islam but I am not with those who use Islam to force their opinions and dogma on others. Everyone is free to believe what they like, but don't impose your opinion on others. That's all.

Truth is; only 10% in Iran consider him holy or prophet or Imam, but he send clerics to Pakistan and misguide Pakistanis.

Iran regime has no support of his people and care less if US or any one else attack Iran.
 
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you guys dunno anything about iran first this iran france guy that his image of iran is kinda like stone age (you know what topic im talkin about kentaky and google filter etc)talk sh*t and everyone come here wow you right man keep it up!

then the other guy iran US which nether is nationalist not Muslim( and he knows that and proved that he just know how to talk and he do that alot),man really what are you !
then other a pakistani pups up wow 10% really where is the statistics ! BBC? CNN? maybe CIA is good enough for you or MI6 or suadi inteligence system(lol what they call it btw! SA estekhbar!)
guys its not facebook get these like thing there some few chating spreading crap on and on. those few who wanna know things get tierd and let the topic go.

if you guys dont like the constitution (if you are iranian) come here and vote for those who will change it in Parliament.(if you are not iranian you cant do anything about it!)
the thing is these people are voting and you call it cheating so we all are blind waiting a few force us to their will guys its a big insult (seriously you that still have king system in your country give me a break YOU why the hell YOU talking in this topic)
if you tellin that we should let US euro democracy come to iran and decide for us you are AN IDIOT they failed on their own democracy! democracy for people who will resist and has the potential to be superpower in whole times.
if you dont believe in their support for your things so again ; come here deny any relation with US and etc(which none of iran oposition did deny their relation with US ,even some goes that far having relation with mossad,its kinda old fashion right no becoming oposition going to france canada UK US having their support and a good life! U know PHD in tv everyday BBC ABC ccc etc) and call for a free country that again IS NOT MADE TO BE US OR RUSSIA OR ETC PUPPET .the thing is you people everytime had a connection to one of these few country and wanted to make change
again if you are that much why you dont do anything isn't that means that you are not that much,
people want this and everyone in iran elected by people directly or indirectly even the supreme leader (throw a council which again elected by people).
 
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you guys dunno anything about iran first this iran france guy that his image of iran is kinda like stone age (you know what topic im talkin about kentaky and google filter etc)talk sh*t and everyone come here wow you right man keep it up!

then the other guy iran US which nether is nationalist not Muslim( and he knows that and proved that he just know how to talk and he do that alot),man really what are you !
then other a pakistani pups up wow 10% really where is the statistics ! BBC? CNN? maybe CIA is good enough for you or MI6 or suadi inteligence system(lol what they call it btw! SA estekhbar!)
guys its not facebook get these like thing there some few chating spreading crap on and on. those few who wanna know things get tierd and let the topic go.

if you guys dont like the constitution (if you are iranian) come here and vote for those who will change it in Parliament.(if you are not iranian you cant do anything about it!)
the thing is these people are voting and you call it cheating so we all are blind waiting a few force us to their will guys its a big insult (seriously you that still have king system in your country give me a break YOU why the hell YOU talking in this topic)
if you tellin that we should let US euro democracy come to iran and decide for us you are AN IDIOT they failed on their own democracy! democracy for people who will resist and has the potential to be superpower in whole times.
if you dont believe in their support for your things so again ; come here deny any relation with US and etc(which none of iran oposition did deny their relation with US ,even some goes that far having relation with mossad,its kinda old fashion right no becoming oposition going to france canada UK US having their support and a good life! U know PHD in tv everyday BBC ABC ccc etc) and call for a free country that again IS NOT MADE TO BE US OR RUSSIA OR ETC PUPPET .the thing is you people everytime had a connection to one of these few country and wanted to make change
again if you are that much why you dont do anything isn't that means that you are not that much,
people want this and everyone in iran elected by people directly or indirectly even the supreme leader (throw a council which again elected by people).

dude chillllll:cool:

many like his regime bcz he is standing upto america and making iran very powerful. iran maybe a bully but they r getting very strong. i dont believe he is any savior but he is staring at usa with anger which many muslim countries want their leaders to do main example pakistan ;);):pakistan:
 
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Iranians themselves despise the current form of government.

61% of Iranians oppose the current form of government and want the supreme leader to be elected. 79% favor abolishing the position of supreme leader all together.
 
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Hussein, i thougt you where pro-ayatollah?

how is this system in Iran, i have always wondered. i heard that only the ayatollah can choose the party to lead the country, how is that democratic?
Hi Silko
what means pro ayatollah? it is different religion and the leadership.
i have high respect for ayatollahs , most of them. If some of them are stone age minded and are part of the bad leadership, saying strange and stupid things (mostly it comes from mullahs who are much less educated), then i don't need to listen to them. I followed Montazeri and i have high respect consideration for Boroujerdi.
But as said Khomeini himself, economy should led by economists. army as well should be led by no religious people, and i would say politics by professional of politics as diplomacy by professional of diplomacy.
As well i see the bad idea of Islamic court sometimes when a toomuch power is in hands of a mullah and he can destroy the life of someone because he is addicted or paid by a third parti . All can be improved in Iran if we would consider the people of Iran. Problem if the regime is scared of its people choices and will.

Elections?
The candidates can be kicked out by interior minister. The guardians then decide if they are kicked out.
The guardians are named themselved by Khamenei for half directly and undirectly for the other half.

you guys dunno anything about iran first this iran france guy that his image of iran is kinda like stone age (you know what topic im talkin about kentaky and google filter etc)talk sh*t and everyone come here wow you right man keep it up!

then the other guy iran US which nether is nationalist not Muslim( and he knows that and proved that he just know how to talk and he do that alot),man really what are you !
then other a pakistani pups up wow 10% really where is the statistics ! BBC? CNN? maybe CIA is good enough for you or MI6 or suadi inteligence system(lol what they call it btw! SA estekhbar!)
guys its not facebook get these like thing there some few chating spreading crap on and on. those few who wanna know things get tierd and let the topic go.

if you guys dont like the constitution (if you are iranian) come here and vote for those who will change it in Parliament.(if you are not iranian you cant do anything about it!)
the thing is these people are voting and you call it cheating so we all are blind waiting a few force us to their will guys its a big insult (seriously you that still have king system in your country give me a break YOU why the hell YOU talking in this topic)
if you tellin that we should let US euro democracy come to iran and decide for us you are AN IDIOT they failed on their own democracy! democracy for people who will resist and has the potential to be superpower in whole times.
if you dont believe in their support for your things so again ; come here deny any relation with US and etc(which none of iran oposition did deny their relation with US ,even some goes that far having relation with mossad,its kinda old fashion right no becoming oposition going to france canada UK US having their support and a good life! U know PHD in tv everyday BBC ABC ccc etc) and call for a free country that again IS NOT MADE TO BE US OR RUSSIA OR ETC PUPPET .the thing is you people everytime had a connection to one of these few country and wanted to make change
again if you are that much why you dont do anything isn't that means that you are not that much,
people want this and everyone in iran elected by people directly or indirectly even the supreme leader (throw a council which again elected by people).
stop your crap Crive. It is not possibe for Iranians to choose their future, and more now than before.
 
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Hi Silko
what means pro ayatollah? it is different religion and the leadership.
i have high respect for ayatollahs , most of them. If some of them are stone age minded and are part of the bad leadership, saying strange and stupid things (mostly it comes from mullahs who are much less educated), then i don't need to listen to them. I followed Montazeri and i have high respect consideration for Boroujerdi.
But as said Khomeini himself, economy should led by economists. army as well should be led by no religious people, and i would say politics by professional of politics as diplomacy by professional of diplomacy.
As well i see the bad idea of Islamic court sometimes when a toomuch power is in hands of a mullah and he can destroy the life of someone because he is addicted or paid by a third parti . All can be improved in Iran if we would consider the people of Iran. Problem if the regime is scared of its people choices and will.

Elections?
The candidates can be kicked out by interior minister. The guardians then decide if they are kicked out.
The guardians are named themselved by Khamenei for half directly and undirectly for the other half.


stop your crap Crive. It is not possibe for Iranians to choose their future, and more now than before.

not wierd coming out of you see you haven't been here for a long time so no one asked you to talk when you cant think because of lake of knowledge.i talk to people who hate these goverment with every inch of their body but yet they are not that loser to run away ! and as much as i dont want to say this but you are a traitor standing against will of your people standing in a land that send chemical weapons and aircrafts to those who killed your people and yet you talking damn if i was you i probebly just choose to shut my mouth till im live in there.but you wont why? because you kinda like the ones who killed your people like the way they live and ...
 
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Hi Silko
what means pro ayatollah? it is different religion and the leadership.
i have high respect for ayatollahs , most of them. If some of them are stone age minded and are part of the bad leadership, saying strange and stupid things (mostly it comes from mullahs who are much less educated), then i don't need to listen to them. I followed Montazeri and i have high respect consideration for Boroujerdi.
But as said Khomeini himself, economy should led by economists. army as well should be led by no religious people, and i would say politics by professional of politics as diplomacy by professional of diplomacy.
As well i see the bad idea of Islamic court sometimes when a toomuch power is in hands of a mullah and he can destroy the life of someone because he is addicted or paid by a third parti . All can be improved in Iran if we would consider the people of Iran. Problem if the regime is scared of its people choices and will.

Elections?
The candidates can be kicked out by interior minister. The guardians then decide if they are kicked out.
The guardians are named themselved by Khamenei for half directly and undirectly for the other half.


stop your crap Crive. It is not possibe for Iranians to choose their future, and more now than before.
this is the logic of 1% of iranians.
 
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this is the logic of 1% of iranians.
nice propaganda troll

but i said something wrong it is better you explain how elections work in Iran instead of saying this non sense comment. thanks

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not wierd coming out of you see you haven't been here for a long time so no one asked you to talk when you cant think because of lake of knowledge.i talk to people who hate these goverment with every inch of their body but yet they are not that loser to run away ! and as much as i dont want to say this but you are a traitor standing against will of your people standing in a land that send chemical weapons and aircrafts to those who killed your people and yet you talking damn if i was you i probebly just choose to shut my mouth till im live in there.but you wont why? because you kinda like the ones who killed your people like the way they live and ...
i surely have much more knowledge of politics in Iran, considering my family in Iran
But keep insulting Iranians who are free to say what they think and know
by the way for the hundred times, i am Iranian, not Western, and it is a short time i live here for business
thanks and bye
 
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nice propaganda troll

but i said something wrong it is better you explain how elections work in Iran instead of saying this non sense comment. thanks

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i surely have much more knowledge of politics in Iran, considering my family in Iran
But keep insulting Iranians who are free to say what they think and know
by the way for the hundred times, i am Iranian, not Western, and it is a short time i live here for business
thanks and bye

you have knowledge of iran or me forget those little while im living here :D if we think the best way your knowledge passed thru atleast 3 or 4 people till you get your conclusions or you can just use BBC or .. to make the reality disappear totally,most of iranian are middile class the people who never think about sending their family to countries like france or US.so you and your familiy are not whole iranian.what you think and your perspective does not define the truth .

those people you claimed that rejected by the concuil rejected by law and constitution ,mostly people who have been in jail or acting against security or etc.they have 2week to defeand themselves then they will given another 1month to be judged and defend themselves.
The Iranian constitution calls for the council to be composed of six Islamic faqihs(expert in Islamic Law), "conscious of the present needs and the issues of the day" to be selected by the Supreme Leader of Iran, and six jurists, "specializing in different areas of law, to be elected by the Majlis (the Iranian Parliament) from among the Muslim jurists.
most of your problem is islam and the thing is still more than 90% of iranian are muslim you need to change that some how and you cant
and the thing is 90% of people voted for this constitution so feels like democracy to me.

BB .take care or you will ended up traitor.
 
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BB .take care or you will ended up traitor.
i am used of threatening by people of government like you. I hope they pay you well. I guess you are not even ashamed to name me traitor and wishing me death... don't worry people like you, we'll find you soon and guess what will happen to you ;)
just i wish for you you can escape far far away and even this ... we'll do like clarsfeld did for the nazis, we'll find you anywhere you'll hide.

About your lies because i call lies when you hide the important informations .
1/ most reformists , more than 90% of them, are not allowed .. ah they would have been in jail?
if you consider that Iran puts in jail people who have a different opinion than Khamenei, then in your consideration that they are bandit , why not (lol)
2/ the council as you say, we say the guardians.
half of them are choosen by Khamenei .
half of them are choosen indeed if you get some education about it , by minister of justice. and who is choosng minister of justice in Iran? Khamenei
what a big joke to name it a democracy ;)
 
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