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Khalil ur rahman Qamar : From " Mera pass tum hoo" to feminism (verbal assault)

I don't support abusive words flying around on a live TV debate.

But I haven't seen the entire debate so I can't comment much.

Personally I fully support aurat joining work force of Pakistan, joining military forces, getting education and doing whatever men are doing with respects to their gender morality.

There is a line between equality and morality. Tomorrow if these dumb start saying that they want hairs all over their bodies and faces...do I need to explain more?
 
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All we see is the fake and assumed mindset of these ladies, thinking of themselves as Better than man, Deserve better in everything while the reality unfortunately is that very less women in this world are actually mentally capable of being confident, Reasonable and having common sense of worldly affairs, be it profession, Government...

Unfortunately ladies don’t fit for much when it comes to working, Man are always better, and NO, by no means i am degrading women, but truth is the truth. Similarly, women are good at things in which men aren’t...

Just because the whole media is filled with these socialists, Liberals and left wings, with enough popularity on their side, they make a hype of nothing, for their own selfish motives.

People suggest nothing less then capital punishment for sexuak assaults and qisas against acid throwers but every time such demands are put forward these femenazis create an uproar calling them barbaric and whatnot. Kudos to qamar sb for putting this bacho sy ami stealer disgust in her place
 
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People suggesting nothing less then capital punishment for sexuak assaults and qisas against acid throwers but every time such demands are put forward these femenazis creates an uproar calling them barbaric and whatnot. Kudos to qamar sb for putting this bacho sy ami stealer disgust in her place
awla.....

People suggesting nothing less then capital punishment for sexuak assaults and qisas against acid throwers but every time such demands are put forward these femenazis creates an uproar calling them barbaric and whatnot. Kudos to qamar sb for putting this bacho sy ami stealer disgust in her place
awla.....
 
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Meanwhile 5th gen dejjalic fassadi soldier Fuwwad Chowdary is now targeting Hilal Committee chairperson Munib ur Rehman.
 
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Pretty much every classmate of mine is supporting Khalil, why? Because he's just trying to maintain our values that we hold dear of course.

Yet I can't help but notice the fact that all my classmates who support Khalil for defending our religious values are the same people who would lose their minds if they saw a woman outside in western clothing, that woman is the only thing that occupies their minds for a few days, these are the same classmates who support TLP but at the same time brag about watching ****. I would imagine that most of Khalil's supporters are just like these classmates of mine, maybe there are some old men in there who are true to their preachings but I cannot say that for a single younger male of this society.

Our youth is rotten to the core, they just have a nice covering of conservative values that hides all the rot from their parents. They are like animals, there is a complete absence of critical thought, like animals their lust controls their minds, and this is very dangerous for the future of our society.

Why? Because its like these kids are trying to hide a fire that keeps growing within them until they cannot control it anymore and eventually, God fobid, that fire will escape and burn an innocent for the rest of her life.

There are no values that this youth has, they're brainless animals who are unable to notice the stark difference between what they practice and what they preach.

However that does not mean that I think the other side is good necessarily, there are a lot of women who are motivated more by their hate of men than their care for other women, especially the poorer women whose world is way different from theirs.


I'd rather side with the Liberal feminists here because the people supporting Khalil are just putting up a show, in my mind the majority of them are nothing more than animals that are completely devoid of any critical thought. It's a truly sad state of the majority of this youth.

As usual, it's a battle between two extremes.
The balance lies somewhere in the middle.
Everything isn't rosy in the garden of how women are treated in Pakistan.
The status quo needs to shift to remove some of the the injustices that are imposed on women. The problem is that no one is prepared to have the conversation.
 
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As usual, it's a battle between two extremes.
The balance lies somewhere in the middle.
Everything isn't rosy in the garden of how women are treated in Pakistan.
The status quo needs to shift to remove some of the the injustices that are imposed on women. The problem is that no one is prepared to have the conversation.
yar who is supporting the other extreme??
no one.
khalil sab on many occasion said he supports women. but is against this " mera jism meri marzi"
because it is spread by NGOs.
and he is right. because non sane female can say these slogans in front of her brother , father or husband.
we have to be very clear that no one is against women rights.
 
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Mera Jism, Meri Marzi slogan doesn't make any sense.

Our bodies are just borrowed from Allah swt. The real human being is the ruh inside.

Giving into nafs and disobeying Allah swt by removing hijab, saying vulgar slogans, hating men is not women's rights.

If it is about sexual harrassment or violence against women, everyone in society will support it. Bring death penalty and Fiqh punishments on these crimes.

Aurat march is a foreign concept brought in by NGOs who have interests other than Pakistani women at heart. It is corrupting our society and making vulgarity mainstream.
 
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Jab mard nanga hota hai tu khud ko embarrass kerta hai
Jab Aurat Nangi hoti hai tu mashray ko embarrass kerti hai
 
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Pretty much every classmate of mine is supporting Khalil, why? Because he's just trying to maintain our values that we hold dear of course.

Yet I can't help but notice the fact that all my classmates who support Khalil for defending our religious values are the same people who would lose their minds if they saw a woman outside in western clothing, that woman is the only thing that occupies their minds for a few days, these are the same classmates who support TLP but at the same time brag about watching ****. I would imagine that most of Khalil's supporters are just like these classmates of mine, maybe there are some old men in there who are true to their preachings but I cannot say that for a single younger male of this society.

Our youth is rotten to the core, they just have a nice covering of conservative values that hides all the rot from their parents. They are like animals, there is a complete absence of critical thought, like animals their lust controls their minds, and this is very dangerous for the future of our society.

Why? Because its like these kids are trying to hide a fire that keeps growing within them until they cannot control it anymore and eventually, God fobid, that fire will escape and burn an innocent for the rest of her life.

There are no values that this youth has, they're brainless animals who are unable to notice the stark difference between what they practice and what they preach.

However that does not mean that I think the other side is good necessarily, there are a lot of women who are motivated more by their hate of men than their care for other women, especially the poorer women whose world is way different from theirs.


I'd rather side with the Liberal feminists here because the people supporting Khalil are just putting up a show, in my mind the majority of them are nothing more than animals that are completely devoid of any critical thought. It's a truly sad state of the majority of this youth.
You have a deep message, appreciated.

The Nice Coating You mentioned, that is a necessity, but improvisation must be done for the inside as well.

Remember, this “Nice Coating” has still to some extent prevented our values to wash off this society. No one can be good to perfection but their is always a degree of goodness and bad.

As you gave an example, these same boys support TLP, Yet they talk of P*rn, I don’t support TLP or that Joker, but the “APPARENT” concept of TLP to the Masses of “Preservance Khatam-e-Nabuwat Shiq” was something most people of Pakistan will want, however, TLP went the bad way with that message by spreading violence on streets, destroying millions of worth public property.

MQM, PPP, PML-N, Military Dictatorship, PTI, all have had their goods and bads. Some have goods that outweigh the bad and vice versa. What matters is the majority proportion.

Having a Conservative coating defines their religious upbringing and family background, but their personal acts and thoughts define their self character.

Our society is definitely rotten to core.

You see a policemen taking bribe and then marching towards Jummah prayer or Praying with Prayer Mat on street side as “Namaz is important”.

You will see people earning haram but then paying zakat and Giving Sadaqah as well.

Similarly, We have these local Moulanad and “Qari Sahibs”, Teaching Quran, but some of them are involved in Child abuses as their frequency of dealing with kids is very high compared to other teachers or professions.

We have the Elite class kids, some families are liberal, Some are moderate and yet religious. People might not have Islamic Code Dressing but they do Pray 4-5 times, They are generous to people and animals, Donate food.

Point is, there is always Good and Bad in a single Entity, unless you are an Angle or in the Past times, Prophet.

I would further introduce my concept of understanding an individual like this.

  • Apparent Character - Language, Etiquettes, Morals in ACTUAL ACTION.
  • Deep Mindset - What they actually think (Not necessary that these all are into action) of an act, Such as Bad Mouthing, Immoral activities, Behavior with others. This is self developed and the family background, friend circle and Upbringing has a heavy influence on this. It defines your thoughts even if they aren’t in action. For example : You might have a bad language, but deep down you regret it and you believe in avoiding this.
  • Potential to Change : Now this is the most interesting part. This isn’t a Primary Classification rather is derived from the Upper 2 classifications I mentioned. This is that the actions you do, and what you think about it in regards, and What potential is there to actually equate it to your thoughts to actions eventually in the future.
A bad person, having a good mindset with a good upbringing has higher potential to eventually become a Good person given that there are no psychological issues in play.

Similarly, Good person, Having some sort of conflicting mindset can eventually lead to a bad character and regrets in future. Now this situation, this is what i am afraid for, Fresh Teen Girls, They don’t know much about the world, Girls are least interested into politics and serious matters and in depth research of the Propagandas. These girls in Educational institutions, When they are fed with

“ Do you know that the society we live in, Mourns at the birth of a Daughter, Buries newborn Girls, Doesn’t want education for girls or Workplace Positions, Wants to restrict them to kitchen and thinks of Girls as Servants ? ”

An average Girl will definitely absorb this propaganda, eventually every thing, even the rare news of such incidents will turn her mindset towards these Feminist movements, thinking that these Rare cases among a rare group of people is actually a Norm of society (Mourning over birth of a girl), Hence, Girls of Colleges, Schools and Universities innocents, get dragged into these pit holes while the Upper class, Foreign Funded Feminists, who actually know that they are playing games with the young girls laugh and cheer...

This is a Great and Dirty Game, Thanks To Allah that I and many people here are blessed with Common Sense and Exceptional thinking and distinctive abilities to actually understand this Game. The Nexus includes Media, Social Media, Foreign Powers, NGOs and many School Chains. Indeed a very powerful threat, aimed at destroying this already messed up society.

The mess in our society is not as bad as the one in west. Our mess is mostly related to Our Ancestors driven mindset and finances.

Let me divide this to 2 Halfs

First Half :

Decoits, Thiefs, Bribe, Nepotism - All these are related to Financial problems people face and hence, these things eventually come into play. Interest (Riba)

Second half :
  • Restricting Education to some Girls and even Boys
  • Confused concept regarding Marriages and Relations (Having Influence of Islam as well as Local culture), selecting some elements from both and introducing a rather HELL concept for this. As Humans turn adolescent, Humans require more attention in terms of Emotions and Physical needs, Society plays here badly. Taboo to discuss with parents, Consequence ? Illicit affairs, In turn, Getting betrayed by Playboys or girls, Boys turning to Hoes, In long term, Mindset changes, not capable of handling a proper marriage. In turn, No Proper Sex Talk with Parents result in People with absurd mindset, Harassing Kids (Poor Zainab comes to mind), Becoming monsters
  • Stupid Cultural backward norms, “Polio ke qatray nai pilaongi apne bachon ko, jo karna hai karlo”, “Doctor pagal hote hain”, “Mere husband ko terminal Stage cancer tha, In doctor ke pas lai aur wo Mar gaye, Doctor ne maara hai *Makes a loud mouth video and posts on Social media* “, This is lack of education driven problem of our society.

So in Short, Mess of our society is Divided into 3 Categories.
  • Financial Driven
  • Lack of Education Driven
  • Uncertainty between Religion and Culture, Mixing them up, Creating a Worst Hybrid one can imagine (Din-e-Ilahi of Akbar comes to mind)
Compare this with the Western culture In General
They have different issues, they left religious and cultural values behind like half a century or a century ago, Now their issues are basically Something which are not Issues in Pakistan. For example : LGBTQ

They lack Society, Family values, Lack of Relations integrity (Every next person can be your partner someday), i am by no means calling every one from the west such, no, some still have good values regardless of religion.

West has always tried to impose their own Human rights over Pakistan where these rights don’t even matter, Many of them are already Given by Islam and very well in action. Like Musharraf once argued “Keep your rights to yourself, Our society is not west”

Now this media, chooses new or even old news regarding Child abuse, Female harassment, Or Maybe some member of their group or mindset who faced an issue (Muniba Mazari Drama), give the matter coverage, make it seem like a very common issue and then BOOM !!! Everyone be like “Aj kal aisa bohat sunnay ko milra hai, bohat maslay hain Pakistan mein”


I hope that with this one post of Extreme reality, Neutrality and Unbiasedness, i have destroyed the whole feminist narrative, AuratMarch and The liberal mindset.

@Mangus Ortus Novem @jaibi I once told you both that i was working on a very huge article related to the corruption of this society To post on PDF, This is just an excerpt of it. I will release it someday when i make it to perfection. Hope you like the message above.

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