KFX/IFX News and Development

[Indos]

AlhamduliLLAH

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S. Korea, Indonesia finalize fighter jet costs amid default rumors

S. Korea, Indonesia finalize fighter jet costs amid default rumors

South Korea and Indonesia reached an agreement Wednesday on the payment Indonesia would have to make for their joint fighter jet project after concerns for months that Jakarta could default on the deal to produce a cheaper, less-stealthy alternative to the US-made F-35. The KF-21 program -- in...

www.koreaherald.com

 

[Shotgunner51]

AlhamduliLLAH

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S. Korea, Indonesia finalize fighter jet costs amid default rumors


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S. Korea, Indonesia finalize fighter jet costs amid default rumors

South Korea and Indonesia reached an agreement Wednesday on the payment Indonesia would have to make for their joint fighter jet project after concerns for months that Jakarta could default on the deal to produce a cheaper, less-stealthy alternative to the US-made F-35. The KF-21 program -- in...

www.koreaherald.com

Good progress! When will you expect the first demonstrator be flown?

 

[Indos]

Good progress! When will you expect the first demonstrator be flown?

AlhamduliLLAH

Based on the plan around March or April 2022 inshaAllah

 

[Shotgunner51]

AlhamduliLLAH

Based on the plan around March or April 2022 inshaAllah

Wow that's coming soon! Really wanna see the first demonstrator start flying. I can't read any Korean so you're my only source on this matter, remember to tag me bro.

 

[Indos]

Wow that's coming soon! Really wanna see the first demonstrator start flying. I can't read any Korean so you're my only source on this matter, remember to tag me bro.

Dont worry, inshaAllah

KAI Korea by now has produced 5 prototypes already, several of them will be for ground test testing so it will likely accelerate the development phase. Indonesian Aerospace also makes some components for prototypes 1,2, and 6.

This is what has happened some months ago :

The flying prototype is behind, the one with grey/blue color

 

[Indos]

Jane is quick reporting it, even faster than Indonesian news that is quite late. The payment is likely be paid in 2022 since 2021 budget has been run quite long and will reach December soon. 30 % payment according to DAPA Korea will be paid by natural resources. Well Indonesia has coal, LNG, palm oil, gold, chopper which are now in high demand.

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11 NOVEMBER 2021

Indonesia reaffirms commitment to pay 20% of the KF-21 fighter's development costs
by Alessandra Giovanzanti

Picture from DAPA Korea


On 9 April KAI unveiled the first of six KF-21 fighter prototypes. The platform is slated to make its maiden flight in 2022, with mass production of the aircraft expected to begin in 2026. (DAPA)

The Indonesian Ministry of Defence has reaffirmed its commitment to funding 20% of development costs for the KF-21/IF-X multirole fighter aircraft, with about 30% of its contribution set to be paid in kind, South Korea's Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) announced on 11 November.

The announcement is part of an agreement that was reached between South Korean and Indonesian representatives during the sixth bilateral working-level meeting held in Jakarta.

“Negotiations were completed in a way that is mutually beneficial to both countries through sufficient bilateral consultations” and the agreement “is expected to contribute to the quick stabilisation of the joint development programme as well as to resolving unpaid contributions by Indonesia”, Director of DAPA Kang Eun-ho was quoted as saying.

DAPA did not provide information on how or when the overdue payments will be addressed, noting only that details on the 30% contribution have yet to be defined

Under the original agreement – signed in 2016 – Indonesia committed to pay for 20% of the total development costs of the KF-21/IF-X project – valued at KRW 8.8 trillion (USD7.5 billion) – through to 2028, with South Korea and Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) covering 60% and 20% respectively.

Specifically, it was agreed that KRW8.12 billion would be invested in system development between 2015 and 2026, while KRW680 billion would be added between 2026 and 2028 for additional weapon testing.

Indonesia reaffirms commitment to pay 20% of the KF-21 fighter's development costs

The Indonesian Ministry of Defence has reaffirmed its commitment to funding 20% of development costs for the KF-21/IF-X multirole fighter aircraft, with about 30% of its...

www.janes.com

 

[Shotgunner51]

Dont worry, inshaAllah

KAI Korea by now has produced 5 prototypes already, several of them will be for ground test testing so it will likely accelerate the development phase. Indonesian Aerospace also makes some components for prototypes 1,2, and 6.

This is what has happened some months ago :

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The flying prototype is behind, the one with grey/blue color

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That's a twin-engine config, which engine has been selected? Or shortlisted?

 

[siegecrossbow]

That's a twin-engine config, which engine has been selected? Or shortlisted?

I think F-414.

 

[Indos]

That's a twin-engine config, which engine has been selected? Or shortlisted?

GE- F 414, similar like Superhornet

The prototype has already been roll out with engine inside

 

[Shotgunner51]

F 414, similar like Superhornet

I see so it's gonna be a medium jet, cos I'm wondering how it fits into next gen ROKAF. In that case KFX, not F-35A, is the successor to their F-16 fleet (or even F-15K if they discontinue with heavy jets), is that correct to say? Perhaps that's why they procure so few F-35A? PS: ROKN is another story, if they need a STOVL/VTOL then F-35B is the only choice.

Korean military to buy 40 more fighter jets from U.S.

Korea will double the number of F-35 stealth fighter jets it will buy from the United States, including variants that will operate on the countryâs first aircraft carrier, according to military sources.

koreajoongangdaily.joins.com

From a supply chain POV, how's the progress with medium-thrust engine in SK or Indonesia?

 

[Indos]

I see so it's gonna be a medium jet, cos I'm wondering how it fits into next gen ROKAF. In that case KFX, not F-35A, is the successor to their F-16 fleet (or even F-15SK if they discontinue with heavy jets), is that correct to say? Perhaps that's why they procure so few F-35A? PS: ROKN is another story, if they need a STOVL/VTOL then F-35B is the only choice.

Korean military to buy 40 more fighter jets from U.S.

Korea will double the number of F-35 stealth fighter jets it will buy from the United States, including variants that will operate on the countryâs first aircraft carrier, according to military sources.

koreajoongangdaily.joins.com

From a supply chain POV, how's the progress with medium-thrust engine in SK or Indonesia?

Look like Korea will rely on KF 21 in the future, they even have plan to develop the plane until it has 6 generation capability. I have stated quite long in PDF that Korea will use F 35 as stop gap and also it is part to get LM become the partner of KF21 and bring technology from F 22 and F 35 into KF 21/IFX.

KAI has been mulling to develop Naval version KF 21.

Indonesia look like focus on EDF jet engine. Some thing that is needed to power our cruise missile development program that is currently running with Indonesia Aerospace as the leader of consortium. It involves several SOE companies, university, and at least one private owned company.

Other research on conventional jet engine do take place with Indonesian Aerospace subsidiary company, PT NTP whose focus on industrial turbine and also PT Info Global which will focus on the electronic side.

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Korean also focus on jet engine for missile and their UCAV. In term of KF 21 engine, Hanwa Korea will involve as well, in assembling and produce some components of F 414 engine.

 

[Indos]

 

[Shotgunner51]

Look like Korea will rely on KF 21 in the future, they even have plan to develop the plane until it has 6 generation capability. I have stated quite long in PDF that Korea will use F 35 as stop gap and also it is part to get LM become the partner of KF21 and bring technology from F 22 and F 35 into KF 21/IFX.

KAI has been mulling to develop Naval version KF 21.

Indonesia look like focus on EDF jet engine. Some thing that is needed to power our cruise missile development program that is currently running with Indonesia Aerospace as the leader of consortium. It involves several SOE companies, university, and at least one private owned company.

Other research on conventional jet engine do take place with Indonesian Aerospace subsidiary company, PT NTP whose focus on industrial turbine and also PT Info Global which will focus on the electronic side.

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Korean also focus on jet engine for missile and their UCAV. In term of KF 21 engine, Hanwa Korea will involve as well, in assembling and produce some components of F 414 engine.

Apparently other than J-20/F-22/Su-57, all countries will go for medium jets (or light jets) in next gen, config either single hi-thrust or twin medium-thrust. In the case of China, J-XY/35 will fly with PLAN soon, so I'm interested to watch development progress of others flying in the same config like KFX/IFX. Do you know any other similar jet/demo/prototype flying soon?

 

[Indos]

Apparently other than J-20/F-22/Su-57, all countries will go for medium jets (or light jets) in next gen, config either single hi-thrust or twin medium-thrust. In the case of China, J-XY/35 will fly with PLAN soon, so I'm interested to watch development progress of others flying in the same config like KFX/IFX. Do you know any other similar jet/demo/prototype flying soon?

Twin engine Stealth that will come after 2030 maybe Tempest from European consortium (British/Germany/Italia/Spain), but look like they are still negotiating on workshare, IP, and other thing

 

[Shotgunner51]

Twin engine Stealth that will come after 2030 maybe Tempest from European consortium (British/Germany/Italia/Spain), but look like they are still negotiating on workshare, IP, and other thing

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So that's their Eurofighter 2.0? Looks like a dummy, for sure not gonna fly in year or two. Seems like only J-XY/35 and KFX/IFX will be flying next year.