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Untouchability in Kerala
As per historians untouchability started in Kerala with the advent of Nambudiris. In Kerala, anyone who was not a Namboothiri, was treated by the Namboothiris as an untouchable. The Namboothiris had different rules regarding the degrees of pollution for the different classes. If a Namboothiri happens to touch or comes in physical contact with an Embraanthiri, he gets the Embraan Sudham, which is supposed to be one step lower in rank among various types of purity of Namboothiris. But it is not compulsory that an adult male Namboothiri should bathe before performing "sandhyaavandanam" if he is polluted due to "Embraan sudham". Also Namboothiris will get Eda Sudham if they are polluted by the touch of Iyers. Namboothiri women (and not men) are not permitted to eat if they become Eda Sudham. For doing Sandhyaavandanam, Namboothiris should take bath if they are polluted with Eda Sudham. Asudhams are practised not only by Namboothiris, but also people of other communities in Kerala, such as the royal families, temple employees, Nairs, etc., who are closely associated with Namboothiris. Other South Indian Brahmanans also follow this custom. Clothes of Namboothiris, washed by Veluthedans , if touched by other Nairs, are not impure. But if touched by a person below the rank in the hierarchies of caste system, it becomes impure.ther classes had different distances after which they could be considered polluting. For example, if an Ezhava got within 24 feet of a Namboothiri, the Namboothiri was considered to be polluted. Untouchability was not isolated to Hindus in Kerala, amongst Christians the original Syrian Malabar Nasranis considered newly converted Latin Christians (usually fishermen) to be untouchables.

The most extreme form of untouchabilityin all of India was practised in Kerala.

A Nair was expected to instantly cut down a Mucua, thiyya( ezhava sub caste ) who presumed to defile him by touching his person; and a similar fate awaited a slave, who did not turn out of the road as a Nair passed"[8] According to Kerala tradition the Dalits were forced to maintain a distance of 64 feet from Savarnas as they were thought to pollute them.[9] Other castes like Nayadis, Kanisans and Mukkuvans were forbidden within 72 feet, 32 feet and 24 feet respectively from Savarnas.[10]

When British banned the right of the Nairs to carry swords with them, caste related violence steeply decreased[citation needed]. The observance of untouchability vanished consequent to the movements of social reforms, especially the one initiated by Sree Narayana Guru (spiritual leader of ezhava). Temple Entry Proclamation of the Raja of Travancore effective by put a end to the system of untouchability in South Kerala.

By that logic, Nair's too were Untouchable since they too had to be at least 4 feet away from a Nambudri :cheesy:

Your posts also says that IYER brahmins were Untouchables :cheesy:

That is the problem with copy pasting propaganda without having the ability to think for yourself.
 
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By that logic, Nair's too were Untouchable since they too had to be at least 4 feet away from a Nambudri :cheesy:


That is the problem with copy pasting propaganda without having the ability to think for yourself.
Ha ha... You not even read what I quoted...
Read it... Then Nairs are allowed to approach namboothiris and they are allowed to touch their cloaths also... But ezhavas were not allowed any where near Nairs and namboothiris... So they are denied the permission to enter even the roads near the temples... But Nairs are allowed inside the temples...

Asudhams are practised not only by Namboothiris, but also people of other communities in Kerala, such as the royal families, temple employees, Nairs, etc., who are closely associated with Namboothiris.
Other South Indian Brahmanans also follow this custom.Clothes of Namboothiris, washed by Veluthedans , if touched by other Nairs, are not impure. But if touched by a person below the rank in the hierarchies of caste system, it becomes impure.
 
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Ha ha... You not even read what I quoted...
Read it... Then Nairs are allowed to approach namboothiris and they are allowed to touch their cloaths also... But ezhavas were not allowed any where near Nairs and namboothiris... So they are denied the permission to enter even the roads near the temples... But Nairs are allowed inside the temples...

Asudhams are practised not only by Namboothiris, but also people of other communities in Kerala, such as the royal families, temple employees, Nairs, etc., who are closely associated with Namboothiris.
Other South Indian Brahmanans also follow this custom.Clothes of Namboothiris, washed by Veluthedans , if touched by other Nairs, are not impure. But if touched by a person below the rank in the hierarchies of caste system, it becomes impure.

LOL... have you understood what you wrote ?

1. Veluthedans were not Nairs, they were Low caste barber caste who was promoted to upper caste.

2. Even Syrian christians practiced untouchability who did not allow any other christians to enter their church. So did Nadar christians who did not allow church entry to others. All these christians did not even allow low caste christians to even be buried in their cemetery.

3. As per your post, even Iyer Brahmins were Untouchables.

Like I said, propaganda is difficult for people who neither know history, nor have the ability to understand what they have read.
 
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LOL... have you understood what you wrote ?

1. Veluthedans were not Nairs, they were Low caste barber caste who was promoted to upper caste.
2. Even Syrian christians practiced untouchability who did not allow any other christians to enter their church. So did Nadar christians who did not allow church entry to others. All these christians did not even allow low caste christians to even be buried in their cemetery.

3. As per your post, even Iyer Brahmins were Untouchables.

Like I said, propaganda is difficult for people who neither know history, nor have the ability to understand what they have read.
1. There are servant class of Nairs, and they are Veluthedan, Vilakkithala, Chakkala, Chempukotti.
Veluthedath Nairs are not untouchable... They cut the hair of namboothiris and high class Nairs...
You not even know the Kerala high courts order came 2-3 years back about Veluthedath nairs... Atleast read news papers...
2. Yeh... Caste system remained among Christians also...
3. Iyers and kerala namboothiris have many differences... Iyers do pooja as per Vedantha and uthara mimamsa , the Namboothiris of Kerala perform Poojas as per Poorva mimamsa or thantra vidhi. An embathiri or iyer , iyenegar or any other brahmin touch them they used to take bath, since they condider it as ashudham.

You are a gem for cowdung sankhis... Not worth my time... Not even have basic comprehension abilities and knowledge... But have arrogance more than enough... Atleast research before posting shit... Only a fool will think there is a propaganda against EZHAVAS exists...
 
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1. There are servant class of Nairs, and they are Veluthedan, Vilakkithala, Chakkala, Chempukotti.
Veluthedath Nairs are not untouchable... They cut the hair of namboothiris and high class Nairs...
You not even know the Kerala high courts order came 2-3 years back about Veluthedath nairs... Atleast read news papers...
2. Yeh... Caste system remained among Christians also...
3. Iyers and kerala namboothiris have many differences... Iyers do pooja as per Vedantha and uthara mimamsa , the Namboothiris of Kerala perform Poojas as per Poorva mimamsa or thantra vidhi. An embathiri or iyer , iyenegar or any other brahmin touch them they used to take bath, since they condider it as ashudham.

You are a gem for cowdung sankhis... Not worth my time... Not even have basic comprehension abilities and knowledge... But have arrogance more than enough... Atleast research before posting shit... Only a fool will think there is a propaganda against EZHAVAS exists...

SO now suddenly you have admitted that Christians practice caste and untouchability and then you had the gall to blame hindus for untouchability. What a hypocrite.

Rest of your post is more chrislamist RUBBISH.

Veluthedan's have OBC category in Kerala. :lol: i.e Other Backward Class status.

They are not Nair's. Nairs come under Open category. I REPEAT Veluthedan's were lower class who were given higher class status as a matter of convenience.

This shows that social mobility was a reality based on economic and political reality.

Do you even know what is uthara and purva mimamsa ? :cheesy:

Purva mimamsa does not have tantra in it. They are Nigama and not Agama. So how can a Namboothirir conduct a tantra pooja in it ? Purva mimamsa rejected the agama. :cheesy: ...... that is what happens when you copy paste without knowing Jack $Hit. All you are good for is worshiping your rat god. :lol:

Iyers were Shivites and Namboothiri's were Vaishnavites. THAT was the difference between the two you moron.

But both were brahmins, and your post claims that Iyer brahmins were untouchables.



Now do some more google search and copy paste to cover up your stupidity and ignorance. lol.
 
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SO now suddenly you have admitted that Christians practice caste and untouchability and then you had the gall to blame hindus for untouchability. What a hypocrite.

Where I correlate Hinduism and untouchability you idiot ???Also where I said Christians not have untouchability???See a psychiatrist soon...

Rest of your post is more chrislamist RUBBISH.

Veluthedan's have OBC category in Kerala. :lol: i.e Other Backward Class status.

They are not Nair's. Nairs come under Open category. I REPEAT Veluthedan's were lower class who were given higher class status as a matter of convenience.

This shows that social mobility was a reality based on economic and political reality.

Honourable high court checked all history and ruledas below... Seems like not read news papers... Cow dung sankii...:rofl:.

The Kerala High Court on Friday, 10 July 2015 in a judgment titled ‘V.M. Sasi Vs. Kishore‘ has held that “the petitioner belongs to the sub-sect of ‘ Veluthedath Nair ‘ is, no doubt, a ‘Nair’ for all practical purposes and therefore, he cannot be treated as an ‘Avarna Hindu’.


Do you even know what is uthara and purva mimamsa ? :cheesy:

Purva mimamsa does not have tantra in it. They are Nigama and not Agama. So how can a Namboothirir conduct a tantra pooja in it ? Purva mimamsa rejected the agama. :cheesy: ...... that is what happens when you copy paste without knowing Jack $Hit. All you are good for is worshiping your rat god. :lol:

Now do some more google search and copy paste to cover up your stupidity and ignorance. lol.

Ha ha... Your ignorance is unbelievable... Stupid sanki... Hinduism is so diverse...
First study about the special Tantra named Tantra Vidhi... Kerala namboothiris do poojas based on Tantra Vidhi(Kerala special)... That's why they are called Tantris... Tatra vidhi have no connection with uttar mimamsa but it is totally based on Purva Mimamsa only... That's is tantra came from practical ( purva Mimamsa)only..
 
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Where I correlate Hinduism and untouchability you idiot ???Also where I said Christians not have untouchability???See a psychiatrist soon...

Of course you did, if not, then what are you arguing about ? :cheesy: What is your point ? Do you even have one ? lol.

Honourable high court checked all history and ruledas below... Seems like not read news papers... Cow dung sankii...:rofl:.

The Kerala High Court on Friday, 10 July 2015 in a judgment titled ‘V.M. Sasi Vs. Kishore‘ has held that “the petitioner belongs to the sub-sect of ‘ Veluthedath Nair ‘ is, no doubt, a ‘Nair’ for all practical purposes and therefore, he cannot be treated as an ‘Avarna Hindu’.

LOL indeed. Look what Kerala govt. List says, at no. 68 :lol:

LIST OF OTHER BACKWARD CLASSES IN KERALA STATE

I Through out the State

1. Agasa

2. Ambalakkaran
3. Anglo Indian
4. Aremahrati
5. Arya
6. Bandari
7. Billava
8. Chakkala
9. Chavalakkaran
10. Chetties (Kottar Chetties,Parakka Chetties,Elur Chetties,Attingal Chetties,Pudukkada Chetties,Iraniel Chetties, Sri Pandara Chetties, Telugu Chetties, Udiyankulangara Chetties, Peroorkada Chetties, Sadhu Chetties, 24 Mana Chetties, Wayanadan Chetties, Kalavara Chetties and 24 Mana Telugu Chetties)
11. Devadiga
12. Devanga
13. Dheevara (Arayan,Valan, Nulayan,Mukkuvan,Arayavathi,Valinjiar,Paniakkal,Mukaya,Bovi ,Mukayar and Mukaveeran)
14. Ezhava and Thiyya
15. Ezhavathi
16. Ezhuthachan
17. Ganika
18. Gatti
19. Gowda
20. Hegde
21. Jogi
22. Kadupattan
23. Kaikolan
24. Kolasari, Kalasi Panicker
25. Kalari Kurup or Kalari Panicker
26. Viswakaramas including Asari Chaptegra, Kallassary,Kalthachan,Kammala,Kamsala, Kannan,Karuvan,Kitaran,Kollan,Malayala Kammala, Moosari,Pandikammala,Pandithattan,Perumkolllan,Thachan,Thattan, Vilkurup,Villasan,Viswabrahmanan or Viswabrahmanar and Viswakarmala
27. Kannadiyans
28. Kanisu or Kaniyar Panicker ,Kani or Kaniyan (Ganaka) or Kanisan or Kamnan
29. Kavuthiyan
30. Kavudiyaru
31. Koteyar
32. Krishnanvaka
33. Kerala Mudali
34. Kudumbi
35. Kusavan(Kulala,Kulala Nair,Andhra Nair or Anthuru Nair)
36. Kumbarans
37. Kuruba
38. Latin Catholics
39. Madivalas
40. Mahendra-Medara
41. Maravans
42. Maruthuvar
43. Muslim or Mappila
44. Nadar (Hindu)
45. Naikkans
46. Odans
47. Scheduled Castes Converted to Christianity
48. Pandithars
49. Panniyar
50. Pattariyas
51. Peruvannan (Varanavar)
52. Rajapur
53. Chakravar,Sakravar(Kavathi)
54. Sourashtras
55. Saliya, Chaliya (Chaliyan)
56. Senai Thalavan (Elavaniar)
57. S.I.U.C (Excluding Nadar)
58. S.I.U.C
59. Thachar
60. Tholkollans
61. Thottian
62. Vaduvans,Vadugans,Vadukkars and Vaduka (Vadukans)
63. Velaans (Velaan, Velaar)
64. Vanian (Vanika,Vanika Vaisya,Vanibha Chetty,Vaniya Chettty,Ayiravar, Nagarathar and Vaniyan)
65. Vaniar
66. Vakkaliga
67. Veerasaivas (Yogis and Yogeeswara, Poopandaram/ Malapandaram and Jangam)

68. Veluthedathu Nair (Veluthedan and Vannathan)
69. Vilakkithala Nair (Vilakithalavan)

70. Yadavas (Kolaya, Ayar, Mayar, Maniyani and Iruman)
71. Kongu Navithan, Vettuva Navithan and Aduthon
72. Moopar or Kallan Mooppan or Kallan Mooppar.


How many times Do I have to prove you wrong ? Its embarrassing. :lol:

Ha ha... Your ignorance is unbelievable... Stupid sanki... Hinduism is so diverse...
First study about the special Tantra named Tantra Vidhi... Kerala namboothiris do poojas based on Tantra Vidhi(Kerala special)... That's why they are called Tantris... Tatra vidhi have no connection with uttar mimamsa but it is totally based on Purva Mimamsa only... That's is tantra came from practical ( purva Mimamsa)only..

LOL.... This is what happens when a Chrislamist tries to teach Hinduism to a Hindu. :lol:

Tantri's do Tantra, but Tantra do not come under Purva Mimamsa. Let me REPEAT, Tantra are NOT part of Purva Mimamsa.

Purva Mimamsa is pure Vedic in Nature. Yagna's come under PUrva Mumamsa.

There is no Murthi pooja in any of the Vedas.

The agamas can be non-vedic (avaidika) or vaidika (vedic). Agama recognize the Vedas but are a separate philosophy by itself. Like the Veda, Agama too are a Sruti.

Agama are an independent practice in Hinduism. Its not a philosophy, but the means to understand god in the Kali Yuga. It involves aspect of Yoga, Samkya and Mimamsa to create a practical tool for practicing Hindus.


Purva Mimamsa is all the practices of Vedas like Yagna, samskaras etc. none of which exist in Agama.



Next time you don't know anything, make sure you ask people who know. otherwise you just end up looking like a fool, all over again. Again and again. Adios chrislamist. Stick to preaching the bible, not hinduism.
 
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I agree with you and also @SOUTHie .
All these are facts that existed in 19th century .
But does anyone of it actually eradicate the caste system ?I dont think so.
Still it prevails ,Ezhavas were lower caste than Nairs and Brahmins but they werent untouchables .And they did the same to the Pulayas ,Parayas what the so called higher caste did to them.

The difference between 19th century and 21st century is that then it was visible in society but now it all in minds .
Lets take the non Hindu sects .
Christians and Muslims indeed practice casteism.Or I would say Christians and Muslims in India practices casteism.

Will the Syrian Catholics fully agree for a marriage relation with Dalit Convert Christian?
Most proabably conversion would be to Pentecoste .
Because sects like Jacobite,Syrian Catholics,Marthoma etc ia different .
When it comes to Muslims.
Will a upperclass Muslim family allows for a marriage with a fishernen sect of Islam .?
In India it is casteism ,in West it is racism ,in Africa it is tribalism.
I only made a reference to the 19th century because it the thread sounds like it.
 
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Of course you did, if not, then what are you arguing about ? :cheesy: What is your point ? Do you even have one ? lol.
This is the real cowdung sankii... Will twist the things shamelessly... Quote any one sentence I said against "Hinduism", if you have a little sanity... Caste system is a social evil you idiot... That is why those struggled against them are called social reformers... By your cowdung logic Sree Narayana Guru is also against Hinduism... Not seen a fool like you in near times...

LOL indeed. Look what Kerala govt. List says, at no. 68 :lol:
LIST OF OTHER BACKWARD CLASSES IN KERALA STATE

I Through out the State

1. Agasa

2. Ambalakkaran
3. Anglo Indian
4. Aremahrati
5. Arya
6. Bandari
7. Billava
8. Chakkala
9. Chavalakkaran
10. Chetties (Kottar Chetties,Parakka Chetties,Elur Chetties,Attingal Chetties,Pudukkada Chetties,Iraniel Chetties, Sri Pandara Chetties, Telugu Chetties, Udiyankulangara Chetties, Peroorkada Chetties, Sadhu Chetties, 24 Mana Chetties, Wayanadan Chetties, Kalavara Chetties and 24 Mana Telugu Chetties)
11. Devadiga
12. Devanga
13. Dheevara (Arayan,Valan, Nulayan,Mukkuvan,Arayavathi,Valinjiar,Paniakkal,Mukaya,Bovi ,Mukayar and Mukaveeran)
14. Ezhava and Thiyya
15. Ezhavathi
16. Ezhuthachan
17. Ganika
18. Gatti
19. Gowda
20. Hegde
21. Jogi
22. Kadupattan
23. Kaikolan
24. Kolasari, Kalasi Panicker
25. Kalari Kurup or Kalari Panicker
26. Viswakaramas including Asari Chaptegra, Kallassary,Kalthachan,Kammala,Kamsala, Kannan,Karuvan,Kitaran,Kollan,Malayala Kammala, Moosari,Pandikammala,Pandithattan,Perumkolllan,Thachan,Thattan, Vilkurup,Villasan,Viswabrahmanan or Viswabrahmanar and Viswakarmala
27. Kannadiyans
28. Kanisu or Kaniyar Panicker ,Kani or Kaniyan (Ganaka) or Kanisan or Kamnan
29. Kavuthiyan
30. Kavudiyaru
31. Koteyar
32. Krishnanvaka
33. Kerala Mudali
34. Kudumbi
35. Kusavan(Kulala,Kulala Nair,Andhra Nair or Anthuru Nair)
36. Kumbarans
37. Kuruba
38. Latin Catholics
39. Madivalas
40. Mahendra-Medara
41. Maravans
42. Maruthuvar
43. Muslim or Mappila
44. Nadar (Hindu)
45. Naikkans
46. Odans
47. Scheduled Castes Converted to Christianity
48. Pandithars
49. Panniyar
50. Pattariyas
51. Peruvannan (Varanavar)
52. Rajapur
53. Chakravar,Sakravar(Kavathi)
54. Sourashtras
55. Saliya, Chaliya (Chaliyan)
56. Senai Thalavan (Elavaniar)
57. S.I.U.C (Excluding Nadar)
58. S.I.U.C
59. Thachar
60. Tholkollans
61. Thottian
62. Vaduvans,Vadugans,Vadukkars and Vaduka (Vadukans)
63. Velaans (Velaan, Velaar)
64. Vanian (Vanika,Vanika Vaisya,Vanibha Chetty,Vaniya Chettty,Ayiravar, Nagarathar and Vaniyan)
65. Vaniar
66. Vakkaliga
67. Veerasaivas (Yogis and Yogeeswara, Poopandaram/ Malapandaram and Jangam)

68. Veluthedathu Nair (Veluthedan and Vannathan)
69. Vilakkithala Nair (Vilakithalavan)

70. Yadavas (Kolaya, Ayar, Mayar, Maniyani and Iruman)
71. Kongu Navithan, Vettuva Navithan and Aduthon
72. Moopar or Kallan Mooppan or Kallan Mooppar.


How many times Do I have to prove you wrong ? Its embarrassing. :lol:
Ha ha... You are failing each and every times... I already given solid proof that velvthedathu Nairs are Nairs and a savarna community...
Get some basic knowledge about Indian constitution... There is no caste system is there in Indian constitution you idiot... No lower caste or upper caste... Only forward castes and backward castes are there... Socially and educationally challenged castes came under backward castes... You are world failure... :cuckoo:

LOL.... This is what happens when a Chrislamist tries to teach Hinduism to a Hindu. :lol:

Tantri's do Tantra, but Tantra do not come under Purva Mimamsa. Let me REPEAT, Tantra are NOT part of Purva Mimamsa.

Purva Mimamsa is pure Vedic in Nature. Yagna's come under PUrva Mumamsa.

There is no Murthi pooja in any of the Vedas.

The agamas can be non-vedic (avaidika) or vaidika (vedic). Agama recognize the Vedas but are a separate philosophy by itself. Like the Veda, Agama too are a Sruti.

Agama are an independent practice in Hinduism. Its not a philosophy, but the means to understand god in the Kali Yuga. It involves aspect of Yoga, Samkya and Mimamsa to create a practical tool for practicing Hindus.


Purva Mimamsa is all the practices of Vedas like Yagna, samskaras etc. none of which exist in Agama.



Next time you don't know anything, make sure you ask people who know. otherwise you just end up looking like a fool, all over again. Again and again. Adios chrislamist. Stick to preaching the bible, not hinduism.
Your comprehension problem is unbelievable... Kerala namboothiris do poojas by tantra vidhi( it's just a name) , which is also called Kerala tantra.... Tantra here just meaning knowledge about particular practices, literature, tradition, building etc... That's tantra is a new idea... Don't misunderstand or narrowly think this with other tantra and agama literature already existed ...( Agamas are texts not practices as you said...)
Kerala namboothiris school of thought is Purva Mimamsa... So tantra vidhi is based on Purva Mimamsa... If tantra vidhi is a house ,its base is the Purva Mimamsa...
 
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https://dalitskerala.wordpress.com/2010/07/15/untouchability-in-kerala/

Untouchability in Kerala
As per historians untouchability started in Kerala with the advent of Nambudiris. In Kerala, anyone who was not a Namboothiri, was treated by the Namboothiris as an untouchable. The Namboothiris had different rules regarding the degrees of pollution for the different classes. If a Namboothiri happens to touch or comes in physical contact with an Embraanthiri, he gets the Embraan Sudham, which is supposed to be one step lower in rank among various types of purity of Namboothiris. But it is not compulsory that an adult male Namboothiri should bathe before performing "sandhyaavandanam" if he is polluted due to "Embraan sudham". Also Namboothiris will get Eda Sudham if they are polluted by the touch of Iyers. Namboothiri women (and not men) are not permitted to eat if they become Eda Sudham. For doing Sandhyaavandanam, Namboothiris should take bath if they are polluted with Eda Sudham. Asudhams are practised not only by Namboothiris, but also people of other communities in Kerala, such as the royal families, temple employees, Nairs, etc., who are closely associated with Namboothiris. Other South Indian Brahmanans also follow this custom. Clothes of Namboothiris, washed by Veluthedans , if touched by other Nairs, are not impure. But if touched by a person below the rank in the hierarchies of caste system, it becomes impure.ther classes had different distances after which they could be considered polluting. For example, if an Ezhava got within 24 feet of a Namboothiri, the Namboothiri was considered to be polluted. Untouchability was not isolated to Hindus in Kerala, amongst Christians the original Syrian Malabar Nasranis considered newly converted Latin Christians (usually fishermen) to be untouchables.

The most extreme form of untouchabilityin all of India was practised in Kerala.

A Nair was expected to instantly cut down a Mucua, thiyya( ezhava sub caste ) who presumed to defile him by touching his person; and a similar fate awaited a slave, who did not turn out of the road as a Nair passed"[8] According to Kerala tradition the Dalits were forced to maintain a distance of 64 feet from Savarnas as they were thought to pollute them.[9] Other castes like Nayadis, Kanisans and Mukkuvans were forbidden within 72 feet, 32 feet and 24 feet respectively from Savarnas.[10]

When British banned the right of the Nairs to carry swords with them, caste related violence steeply decreased[citation needed]. The observance of untouchability vanished consequent to the movements of social reforms, especially the one initiated by Sree Narayana Guru (spiritual leader of ezhava). Temple Entry Proclamation of the Raja of Travancore effective by put a end to the system of untouchability in South Kerala.

Not a nice link .
Nairs were also not allowed to come nearer below than 10 feet .They couldnt touch Brahmins but that doesnt mean Nairs are untouchables .
Untouchables are out caste or Dalits .
Ezhavas werent outcaste , some are really powerful.

British banned Nairs from carrying sword ,not to reduce the caste incident.
But to clamp down a violent revolt against them ,like we did during Veluthampi Dalawas time .
Precisely more than 150 years ago .They banned Kalari practices of both Nairs and Thiyyas
 
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This is the real cowdung sankii... Will twist the things shamelessly... Quote any one sentence I said against "Hinduism", if you have a little sanity... Caste system is a social evil you idiot... That is why those struggled against them are called social reformers... By your cowdung logic Sree Narayana Guru is also against Hinduism... Not seen a fool like you in near times...

So your "outrage" is about a social aberration that happened a 100 years back ? :lol:

Is that why you called Kerala tradition of showing respect, "evil" (a loaded christian word) ? :lol: ..... mocked your own traditions ?

Is that why you lied about "breast tax" when the records show that there was NO SUCH Tax ? :lol:

Is that why you were "Brahmin bashing" and praising "christianity" for imposing Victorian morals on us ? :lol:

What you demonstrated was a manufactured outrage designed to tarnish the image of Kerala. By splicing LIES along with cherry picked slices of history and spinning "atrocity literature" in pursuit of an agenda.

And when I have exposed you, you now claim to be a "social activist" along the likes of "Sri Narayana guru" no less :cheesy:

You might be stupid enough to believe you own lies, but every else can see through your insidious attempt at "culture shaming"


Its a very typical move of chrislamists and communist, who cry victim when they are caught with their pants down.

Ha ha... You are failing each and every times... I already given solid proof that velvthedathu Nairs are Nairs and a savarna community...
Get some basic knowledge about Indian constitution... There is no caste system is there in Indian constitution you idiot... No lower caste or upper caste... Only forward castes and backward castes are there... Socially and educationally challenged castes came under backward castes... You are world failure... :cuckoo:

And I have show you conclusive proof that Velvthedathu are not Nair's since they come under OBC and Nair are under General category.

Stop moving the goalpost by manufacturing a new "outrage" about lower caste and backward castes. Your earlier Posts are FULL of terminology like "lower castes" ....... what a shameless Hypocrite.

E.g. #66, #73 etc.

Finally you contradict yourself when you claim there is not "caste system in the constitution" and then go on to say there is "foward and backward Caste" in the constitution :lol:


Your comprehension problem is unbelievable... Kerala namboothiris do poojas by tantra vidhi( it's just a name) , which is also called Kerala tantra.... Tantra here just meaning knowledge about particular practices, literature, tradition, building etc... That's tantra is a new idea... Don't misunderstand or narrowly think this with other tantra and agama literature already existed ...( Agamas are texts not practices as you said...)
Kerala namboothiris school of thought is Purva Mimamsa... So tantra vidhi is based on Purva Mimamsa... If tantra vidhi is a house ,its base is the Purva Mimamsa...

Ok. Listen idiot, I am going to educate you for the last time.

What you call Purva Mimamsa means "OLD Mimamsa" which refers to the earliest books of the Mimamsa which is the Vedas. Purva Mimamsa consist ONLY of strict Vedic practices. Feeding the Cow, using milk for Yagna, conducting Yagna for common good with a Yajman etc.

It has ZERO aspect of temple worship or deity worship. ZERO.

What you foolishly call "Kerala tantra" is a part of Shakta Agama Tantra, i.e from "Tanthrasamuchaya" which defines the details of temple worship, when the temple is constructed in the form of a Human being.

It derives the principles from YOGA, especially Raja Yoga and Hatha Yoga. NOT mimamsa. The temple is considered as a human body called the Sidha Purusha.

Vedanta (which is part of uttara mimamsa) divides human body horizontally into five sheaths.
1. Anna Maya kosa(Physical sheath),
2. Pranamaya kosa(Psychic sheath),
3. Manomaya kosa(Mental sheath),
4.Vijnanamaya Kosa(Intellectual sheath),
5.Anandamaya kosa(Causal sheath).

Temples of Kerala, are designed on similar principles and we can find the ‘Panchapraakarams’ to represent these five sheaths of human body.

Yoga Sasthra divides the human body vertically into six charkas. They are
1. Mooladhara chakra,
2.Swadhishana chakra,
3.Manipoora chakra,
4.Anahata chakra,
5.Vibhooti chakra,
6.Anjnja chakra.
7. and Above these shad-chakras, is the Sahasrara Padmam (sushma nadi)

In Temple architecture, before the erection of the sanctum sanctorum of a temple, a hole is made in the place where the Deity is going to be installed. That hole represents Sushumna Nadi of a Sidha Purusha. Then six more holes are made and in that hole, Aadharasila, Nidhikumbham, Padmam, Koormam, Yoganalam, and Napumsaka Sila are installed with elaborate poojas in order to make them similar to the six chakras in the body of a Sidha Purusha.

THIS temple becomes the body of "God" and then the Pranaprathista pooja is done to bring "god's life energy" into this body i.e. Temple.

This is why Tantric pooja is conducted in temples designed in such way and these tantric practices is derived from Astanga YOGA and uttara mimamsa.

For temples in south India build with a different architecture, these tantric practices will not work. Same is true for temples build in north India using different AGama principles.

The Agama or Tantra we do in temples, depend on the kind of temple it is and who is the deity in that perticular temple. The method of worship for Vishnu , Shiv and Shakti are very different.

It has NOTHING to do with "Kerala" or is not unique to "kerala".


Now that you have been educated, do not go around post such rubbish again. I am done with you.

Practices in Hinduism is far more complicated than your bible practice. Its on a whole different level.
 
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This is the real cowdung sankii...

Any day better than PedoPope sankii you lot are following :D

It has NOTHING to do with "Kerala" or is not unique to "kerala".

Precisely, it is followed by all Hindus all over the world.

It's funny seeing the half knowledge Vatican Mafia teaching us Hindus about Hinduism.

More funny is these same folks who have institutionalized paedophilia teaching us morals! :rofl:
 
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Precisely, it is followed by all Hindus all over the world.

It's funny seeing the half knowledge Vatican Mafia teaching us Hindus about Hinduism.

More funny is these same folks who have institutionalized paedophilia teaching us morals! :rofl:

Its like Mathematics. There is a kerala school of Mathematics, but Mathematics is common all over the world.

North Indians generally practice Gyana Yoga so north Indian temples have a different architecture and a different style of pooja. Its more of Bhakti yoga.

South Indian temple practice Raja Yoga and the practices become Tantra.
 
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