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Kerala women post bare-chested pics on FB To Protest ‘Melon’ Remark On Female Breast

You must be especially stupid. Those in lower social strata are free to wear clothes, but they have to remove their upper wear as a mark of respect whenever they met someone from a higher social standing.

It had nothing to do with "hiding breasts" since there is nothing to "hide". Its not some shameful thing women of kerala has to "hide". Only a male chauvinist who want to control women will force women to feel ashamed about her own body. So its clear who the low life is.

There is no absolute freedom in any society, all laws are made w.r.t the needs of that society.

Since uncovering your upper body was the standard mark of respect, it applied to everybody. From top to bottom.

When the society changed, the laws changed too. A different method of showing respect was devised.

Its chrislamist like you who go around spreading lies about "mula kara" in your perverse desire to shame kerala hindus and kerala society.
Brahmin woman are allowed to wear clothes to cover their breasts... Nair woman are allowed to wear shawl... Lower caste woman were not allowed to wear anything... This is called caste system... Channar riot and achippudava samaram are harsh reality of evil caste system...

In Kerala, till the late 19th century, women belonging to lower castes were not allowed to cover their breasts. When the lower caste Channar women started wearing the upper-cloth, they were attacked for two reasons: firstly, for covering their breasts and secondly, for emulating the styles of attire used by privileged upper caste Nair women.

The Achippudava Samaram or the agitation for the right to wear a particular kind of cloth by the Ezhavas started when upper caste Hindus attacked some Ezhava women, who were weavers of this kind of cloth, for using it themselves. According to the attackers, the weavers could not claim the right to use this smooth white cotton cloth with beautiful gold border as it was usually worn by the women of upper castes as a mark of distinction. According to another version of the story that can lead to an entirely different interpretation, an Ezhava woman, who was walking along the market at Kayamkulam, her breasts covered, was brutally attacked by men of the upper castes. Aarattupuzha Velayudha Panicker, a fiery Ezhava chieftain who heard of this, stormed into the market armed, and distributed clothes to all the women there who were prohibited from covering the upper part of their body. This happened in 1858.

Ezhava women were also disallowed from wearing the mookkuthi or nose-stud. In the Mookkuthi Samaram of 1860, an Ezhava woman in Pandalam marked her protest against this interdiction by wearing a mookkuthi (nose stud). Enraged by this act of defiance, the men of upper castes ripped off the mookkuthi, maiming her. Panicker, furious on hearing this, supported the Ezhava women by making gold nose-studs in hundreds, and asking them to wear it. No one dared to challenge Panicker as he was immensely rich and had a reputation for being ruthless with those who opposed him.

While maintaining the necessity to understand history from an experiential plane, we must also acknowledge that there are a set of parameters and perspectives underlying the vicissitudes of every historical account as it takes shape as a narrative. The historical accounts of movements of marginalised women exemplify a ‘subjugation of knowledge.’ The Channar revolt finds space in historical accounts as a movement inspired by the Christian missionaries or as a social reform movement, or as an anti-caste movement, or ironically, as one prompted by non-political reasons.
 
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Brahmin woman are allowed to wear clothes to cover their breasts... Nair woman are allowed to wear shawl... Lower caste woman were not allowed to wear anything... This is called caste system... Channar riot and achippudava samaram are harsh reality of evil caste system...

In Kerala, till the late 19th century, women belonging to lower castes were not allowed to cover their breasts. When the lower caste Channar women started wearing the upper-cloth, they were attacked for two reasons: firstly, for covering their breasts and secondly, for emulating the styles of attire used by privileged upper caste Nair women.

The Achippudava Samaram or the agitation for the right to wear a particular kind of cloth by the Ezhavas started when upper caste Hindus attacked some Ezhava women, who were weavers of this kind of cloth, for using it themselves. According to the attackers, the weavers could not claim the right to use this smooth white cotton cloth with beautiful gold border as it was usually worn by the women of upper castes as a mark of distinction. According to another version of the story that can lead to an entirely different interpretation, an Ezhava woman, who was walking along the market at Kayamkulam, her breasts covered, was brutally attacked by men of the upper castes. Aarattupuzha Velayudha Panicker, a fiery Ezhava chieftain who heard of this, stormed into the market armed, and distributed clothes to all the women there who were prohibited from covering the upper part of their body. This happened in 1858.

Ezhava women were also disallowed from wearing the mookkuthi or nose-stud. In the Mookkuthi Samaram of 1860, an Ezhava woman in Pandalam marked her protest against this interdiction by wearing a mookkuthi (nose stud). Enraged by this act of defiance, the men of upper castes ripped off the mookkuthi, maiming her. Panicker, furious on hearing this, supported the Ezhava women by making gold nose-studs in hundreds, and asking them to wear it. No one dared to challenge Panicker as he was immensely rich and had a reputation for being ruthless with those who opposed him.

While maintaining the necessity to understand history from an experiential plane, we must also acknowledge that there are a set of parameters and perspectives underlying the vicissitudes of every historical account as it takes shape as a narrative. The historical accounts of movements of marginalised women exemplify a ‘subjugation of knowledge.’ The Channar revolt finds space in historical accounts as a movement inspired by the Christian missionaries or as a social reform movement, or as an anti-caste movement, or ironically, as one prompted by non-political reasons.

How many times do I have to repeat the same thing again and again ? I have already done it 4 times in this very thread.

Ezhava caste was not "lower caste" by any stretch of the imagination. They were lower than Nair, but were above every other caste in kerala.

Ezhava caste kept slaves from other castes like Pulayas, Parayas, Paravas, Kuravas and Vettuvans. Even Nadars were lower in status to Ezhavas.

Its funny to see you try and convince me they were "lower caste".
 
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How many times do I have to repeat the same thing again and again ? I have already done it 4 times in this very thread.

Ezhava caste was not "lower caste" by any stretch of the imagination. They were lower than Nair, but were above every other caste in kerala.

Ezhava caste kept slaves from other castes like Pulayas, Parayas, Paravas, Kuravas and Vettuvans. Even Nadars were lower in status to Ezhavas.

Its funny to see you try and convince me they were "lower caste".
Yeh... Untouchable are upper caste... Funny...They are considered as avarnas (not in four varnas)or untouchables... The Ezhavas or the 'excluded caste' were not allowed to enter even the outer-closures of the Hindu temples... Their life from 1800 to 1935-40 was very miserable... They were thrown out of the main stream... So they are included in other backward community in the constitution of India...
When the Namboothiris arrived to Kerala, bringing Hinduism to the state and introducing a caste system, they formerly placed Ezhavas as Avarna or shudra...
Ezhavas, including women, were no longer allowed to cover their upper bodies and were also forbidden to wear certain types of jewelery and footwear. Only some wealthy Chekavar, Channar, Panicker and Thandan women used to wear upper clothing...
Many from Ezhava community, especially in central Travancore and in the High Ranges, converted to Christianity during the British rule, due to caste-based discrimination.The Ezhava males called as Chekka, and the females as Pennu by upper caste to confirm their position of inferiority. Even now also racially they were abused by using the name Chovan ( may be came from Chekavan).
 
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Kerala Women Launch Bare Chest Campaign On Facebook To Protest Professor’s ‘Melon’ Remark On Female Breast

At least two women from Kerala have gone topless on Facebook launching a campaign against a professor’s remark that girls display their chest like water melons.

According to Malayalam news portals, it all began after a man called Vishnu shared his partner Arathy SA’s topless picture on Facebook in protest against the professor’s remark. Later, Thiruvananthapuram-based Diya Sana posted on Facebook pictures of a topless woman holding watermelons. She said the photos belonged to her friend Rehana Fathima, a social activist and model, who had become the first woman to play Pulikkali, a traditional dance form where the artists wear tiger costumes.

Since then, the Facebook has removed their pictures and blocked their accounts. However, the women are now getting both bouquets and brickbats.

The professor’s remark had invited widespread fury on social media. An Assistant Professor at Farook College in Kozhikode, he had said in a public speech that girl students of his college do not cover their chests with hijab but display them like the slice of water melon.

"I am teacher of a college where 80 per cent of the students are girls and of that, majority are Muslims. These girls are not wearing dress as per the religious tradition. They are not covering their chests with hijab. But showing part of it is like slice of red water melon being displayed," he has been heard saying in the clip, as translated by The Deccan Chronicle newspaper.

He had also slammed girls wearing leggings, saying the girl students hold purdah deliberately up to show off the leggings. He also warns them that this kind of immoral dress style will lead them to losing both physical and spiritual worlds.

Protesting against this, Sana told Manorama, “It's all your choice. Women should have the liberty to wear what they like,” adding, “I wonder when would our society stop objectifying women?”

“What is wrong in uncovering your physique before people? The same social spaces which celebrate male bodies frown at female bodies and shame it. 'Nudity' becomes a taboo when a woman reveals her body. I have slammed this patriarchal attitude many a times," said Rehana, as quoted by Manorama.

Earlier, Kerala had witnessed a similar campaign against social taboo on breastfeeding in the open. A man posted his partner’s breastfeeding picture on social media. Later, Grihalakshmi magazine, carried a breastfeeding female model on its cover, with a caption, “Women Tell Kerala, Don’t Stare, We Need To Breastfeed”.

Later, speaking to Outlook, the model, Gilu Joseph had said, “All that abuse that’s being directed my way doesn’t bother me one bit. I modelled for the cover because I strongly support the cause


https://www.outlookindia.com/websit...-facebook-to-protest-professors-melon-/309697

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Men’s nipples are ‘normal’ but women’s nipples are a ‘sexual organ’? The double standards in the way women’s bodies are sexualised has led to several protests across the world, and a few women in Kerala are doing the same with a protest of their own. At least two women have posted bare chested pictures on Facebook in recent weeks – and both of their photos were taken down by the social media platform.

The idea for the campaign was floated by a woman named Arathy. Titled 'Maaru thurakkal samaram', which loosely translates to ‘protest to bare the breasts.'

While there isn’t widespread support for the campaign, an activist joined in on Monday after a Kerala professor made derogatory comments about women’s bodies, comparing students breasts to ‘sliced melons’.

Activist and model Rehana Fathima joined the campaign on Monday, with her friend and activist Diya Sana sharing two of Rehana’s photographs on Facebook. One photo showed Rehana holding two watermelons in front of her breasts. The other showed her bare chested, hiding her face with a melon.

"Women, too, should ideally have the same freedom that a man enjoys with regard to his body," Diya wrote on Facebook when she shared the photos. Along with Rehana’s pictures, Diya also posted a picture of herself holding half a watermelon in each hand.

Rehana has been vocal about women’s rights, and has participated in discussions against sexualising the female body. Speaking to TNM, Rehana says that she posted photos to show support to Arathy, who started the ‘Maaru thurakkal samaram’ campaign.

"The message is that there is nothing vulgar about a woman's body. I shared the images to assert that my body is my right, and no one can dictate what is right and wrong. When Arathy began a conversation about this, I was happy to join her. Since I have already been quite vocal about these issues in the past, I asked my friend Diya to share the images. What we should discuss is not the photos per se, but why such a movement is needed," Rehana says.

She adds, "There is no vulgarity in a man's body, but when it comes to women, the standards change. A woman's body is seen as a sex tool and such a public mindset must change. Women's breasts, their sexuality, all of this is only normal. I want this campaign to be a step towards having healthy discussions on the subject."

Taking to Facebook on Monday, Arathy wrote that when she posted her photograph a few days ago, she did not intend to start a protest of any sort. "Now that it has become a movement, let's see where it takes us," Arathy wrote.

Facebook takes down pics

However, hours after Diya posted the pictures of Rehana, the photos were taken down by Facebook. Diya has also been penalised by Facebook – she was not allowed to use her own account for 24 hours.

"In the first hour itself, the post received several comments. While most people supported the campaign, there were also people who abused us mercilessly. They painted us in a bad light,” she says.

The photos were in response to the comments of a male teacher of Farooq college, who said in a speech that Muslim women students of his college did not wear their hijab properly, and exposed parts of their chest “like how we slice a small part of a melon to see if it’s ripe.”

Speaking about the campaign, Diya says that it was not just the Farook college teacher issue that provoked them to join the campaign.

"That incident merely added to it. We have been discussing this for a while now. About how a woman's body is sexualised, while a man's body is not. Why does our society behave in a certain way when they see a woman's breasts? Why are women's breasts sexualised, even when they’re feeding their babies? When people look at a woman's body in such a manner, of course they see only vulgarity. Why sexualise a woman's body? My body is mine!" Diya asserts.

Reacting to Facebook removing the post, Rehana calls it a double-standard on the part of the company.

"Facebook promoted Malayalam magazine Grihalakshmi’s photo of a woman breastfeeding a baby. The same Facebook has a problem when we post photographs of our breasts. Why do people have to term our bodies as vulgar?" Rehana asks.

Criticism for the protest

The photos have created quite a stir on social media, with several people abusing the women – especially Rehana – for posting the bare chested photo. Several commenters criticised both Arathy and Rehana for posting their topless photos, and going against cultural norms.

Critics and feminists have also questioned why Rehana’s photo was not posted on her own account, but on Diya’s – while Diya herself did not participate in the campaign. The fact that Rehana is a model, and that the way her photograph has been taken reinforces the way women’s bodies are sexualised in the media, has also been criticised.

(Edited by Ragamalika Karthikeyan)


https://www.thenewsminute.com/artic...omen-post-bare-chested-pics-fb-kick-row-78237






Those women are YUKKKK!.........:bad:

Please don't show us anything of yours.
 
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Yeh... Untouchable are upper caste... Funny...They are considered as avarnas or untouchables... The Ezhavas or the 'excluded caste' were not allowed to enter even the outer-closures of the Hindu temples... Their life from 1800 to 1935-40 was very miserable... They were thrown out of the main stream... So they are included in other backward community in the constitution of India...
When the Namboothiris arrived to Kerala, bringing Hinduism to the state and introducing a caste system, they formerly placed Ezhavas as Avarna or shudra...
Ezhavas, including women, were no longer allowed to cover their upper bodies and were also forbidden to wear certain types of jewelery and footwear. Only some wealthy Chekavar, Channar, Panicker and Thandan women used to wear upper clothing...
Many from Ezhava community, especially in central Travancore and in the High Ranges, converted to Christianity during the British rule, due to caste-based discrimination.The Ezhava males called as Chekka, and the females as Pennu by upper caste to confirm their position of inferiority. Even now also racially they were abused by using the name Chovan ( may be came from Chekavan).

I agree with you and also @SOUTHie .
All these are facts that existed in 19th century .
But does anyone of it actually eradicate the caste system ?I dont think so.
Still it prevails ,Ezhavas were lower caste than Nairs and Brahmins but they werent untouchables .And they did the same to the Pulayas ,Parayas what the so called higher caste did to them.

The difference between 19th century and 21st century is that then it was visible in society but now it all in minds .
Lets take the non Hindu sects .
Christians and Muslims indeed practice casteism.Or I would say Christians and Muslims in India practices casteism.

Will the Syrian Catholics fully agree for a marriage relation with Dalit Convert Christian?
Most proabably conversion would be to Pentecoste .
Because sects like Jacobite,Syrian Catholics,Marthoma etc ia different .
When it comes to Muslims.
Will a upperclass Muslim family allows for a marriage with a fishernen sect of Islam .?
In India it is casteism ,in West it is racism ,in Africa it is tribalism.
 
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I agree with you and also @SOUTHie .
All these are facts that existed in 19th century .
But does anyone of it actually eradicate the caste system ?I dont think so.
Still it prevails ,Ezhavas were lower caste than Nairs and Brahmins but they werent untouchables .And they did the same to the Pulayas ,Parayas what the so called higher caste did to them.
Ezhavas were untouchables... They are not allowed to enter the temples... Not even allowed to use public roads around the temples...

a Nair can approach but not touch a Namboodiri Brahmin: a Chovan [Ezhava] must remain thirty-six paces off, and a Pulayan slave ninety-six steps distant. A Chovan must remain twelve steps away from a Nair, and a Pulayan sixty-six steps off, and a Parayan some distance farther still. Pulayans and Parayars, who are the lowest of all, can approach but not touch, much less may they eat with each other.

Read about vaikkom Satyagraha against untouchability...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaikom_Satyagraha
And temple entry proclamation in 1936..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Entry_Proclamation

The difference between 19th century and 21st century is that then it was visible in society but now it all in minds .
Lets take the non Hindu sects .
Christians and Muslims indeed practice casteism.Or I would say Christians and Muslims in India practices casteism.

Will the Syrian Catholics fully agree for a marriage relation with Dalit Convert Christian?
Most proabably conversion would be to Pentecoste .
Because sects like Jacobite,Syrian Catholics,Marthoma etc ia different .
When it comes to Muslims.
Will a upperclass Muslim family allows for a marriage with a fishernen sect of Islam .?
In India it is casteism ,in West it is racism ,in Africa it is tribalism.
Caste system is still prevails... Nair's never marry ezhavas... Ezhavas never marry pulayas... Parayas, kurava....
In christianity also caste system prevails... Converted SC & ST remains parayas and kuravas... Saint Thomas Christians or syrian Christians in Kerala who trace their origins to the evangelistic activity of Thomas the Apostle in the 1st century see themselves elites and see other sections low castes...
 
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As a male I criticize this double standard.

By the way, the leftists in Kerala are not doing a good job in reining in the Right among the Muslims ( Tableeghi Jamaat - which that professor will belong to ) and the Hindus ( the RSS ).

If a Rightist does not want to look at a female physique he should war some advanced version of the Google Glass which will have software to blank out females. Best solution. Infinitely better than burqa.
the whole object of Google glass is to spy on the opposite sex
 
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Yeh... Untouchable are upper caste... Funny...They are considered as avarnas (not in four varnas)or untouchables... The Ezhavas or the 'excluded caste' were not allowed to enter even the outer-closures of the Hindu temples... Their life from 1800 to 1935-40 was very miserable... They were thrown out of the main stream... So they are included in other backward community in the constitution of India...
When the Namboothiris arrived to Kerala, bringing Hinduism to the state and introducing a caste system, they formerly placed Ezhavas as Avarna or shudra...
Ezhavas, including women, were no longer allowed to cover their upper bodies and were also forbidden to wear certain types of jewelery and footwear. Only some wealthy Chekavar, Channar, Panicker and Thandan women used to wear upper clothing...
Many from Ezhava community, especially in central Travancore and in the High Ranges, converted to Christianity during the British rule, due to caste-based discrimination.The Ezhava males called as Chekka, and the females as Pennu by upper caste to confirm their position of inferiority. Even now also racially they were abused by using the name Chovan ( may be came from Chekavan).

Ezhavas were never untouchables you moron, chrislamic lies will not change Facts.

Repeating a lie a 100 times does not make it the truth.

In the social hierarchy of Kerala, even Nair's were considered Shudra. This is a statement of Fact.

Avarna is different from shudra your moron, Avarna are those WITHOUT CASTE ie. OUTCASTES i.e DALITS.

For e.g. A brahmin girl who slept with a Pulaya would become a Avarna. A dalit.

Ezhava like Nair were Shudras. Only Nair's were above Ezhava while Ezhava's were above everybody else.

A Nair himself had to be more than 3 feet away from a Namboodri.

Hardly ANY Ezhava converted to christianity ......... its all the Dalits who converted to xtianity. Majority of the xtian converts were from the really low class like fishermen and castes like Chemman, Nayadi and Pulayan. The highest caste who converted to xtianity were the Nadars and they refused to mix with any low class xtian converts. Even today, the Nadar xtians do not marry low class xtians like you. :lol:

In Fact Pulayan which was one of the lowest caste in Kerala were once one of the highest caste in kerala.

Pulayan's were rulers of kerala at one time. Pulayanar Kottai, now a suburb of Trivandrum was the centre of Pulaya ruler.

Pulaya princess Kotha ruled over Kothamangalam of Vellanad Pukuthi of Nedumangad taluk, and portion of Kalkulam and Vilavancode taluks.

But under Chera rule, they became Avarna and thus became Dalits.

Finally the "Riot" you keep talking about were just Caste wars between the two most powerful castes in Kerala, the Nairs and the Ezhavas. ........... especially since the Ezhavas were pissed that those castes lower than them were going about dressing up like higher castes. lol .

No amount of lies from chrislamist can turn these FACTS around.

Caste system is still prevails... Nair's never marry ezhavas... Ezhavas never marry pulayas... Parayas, kurava....
In christianity also caste system prevails... Converted SC & ST remains parayas and kuravas... Saint Thomas Christians or syrian Christians in Kerala who trace their origins to the evangelistic activity of Thomas the Apostle in the 1st century see themselves elites and see other sections low castes...

LOL at your Lies about St. Thomas.

More chrislamist lies to cover up their status as low caste rice bag converts.


From 1274 to 1369 the remains of St Thomas rested in Fossanova, Italy. In 1369 they were transferred to the Convent of the Jacobins in Toulouse, France. They remained here until the French Revolution. At this time they were moved for their protection a few blocks away to the Basilica of St Sernin in Toulouse. From 1789 to 1974 they remained within this church. Finally, in 1974 in honor of the 700th anniversary of the death of St Thomas the remains were returned to the Convent of the Jacobins in Toulouse.

This is where it is currently kept.

Choke on that liar. Shame on you for lying shamelessly.
 
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Ezhavas were never untouchables you moron :lol: chrislamic lies will not change Facts.

Repeating a lie a 100 times does not make it the truth.

In the social hierarchy of Kerala, even Nair's were considered Shudra. This is a statement of Fact.

Avarna is different from shudra your moron, Avarna are those WITHOUT CASTE ie. OUTCASTES i.e DALITS.

For e.g. A brahmin girl who slept with a Pulaya would become a Avarna. A dalit.

Ezhava like Nair were Shudras. Only Nair's were above Ezhava while Ezhava's were above everybody else.

A Nair himself had to be more than 3 feet away from a Namboodri.

Hardly ANY Ezhava converted to christianity :lol: ......... its all the Dalits who converted to xtianity. Majority of the xtian converts were from the really low class like fishermen and castes like Chemman, Nayadi and Pulayan. The highest caste who converted to xtianity were the Nadars and they refused to mix with any low class xtian converts. Even today, the Nadar xtians do not marry low class xtians like you. :lol:

In Fact Pulayan which was one of the lowest caste in Kerala were once one of the highest caste in kerala.

Pulayan's were rulers of kerala at one time. Pulayanar Kottai, now a suburb of Trivandrum was the centre of Pulaya ruler.

Pulaya princess Kotha ruled over Kothamangalam of Vellanad Pukuthi of Nedumangad taluk, and portion of Kalkulam and Vilavancode taluks.

But under Chera rule, they became Avarna and thus became Dalits.

Finally the "Riot" you keep talking about were just Caste wars between the two most powerful castes in Kerala, the Nairs and the Ezhavas. :lol: ........... especially since the Ezhavas were pissed that those castes lower than them were going about dressing up like higher castes. lol .

No amount of lies from chrislamist can turn these FACTS around.
Ha ha... Seems like you are a Chovan...
You have no knowledge at all and is so arrogant...
Chovans were not considered even as shudra Varna... So they were categorised as avarnas... They were not even allowed to enter the premises of temples... Read the real history other than sanki history...
Do you know ‘Dalawa Kulam Incident’... That was the first ever attempt at entry into the temple by Ezhava youth in 1803-4. But failed miserably by Koya kutty and Nair youths... In 1903 SNDP formed & only a fool not know their struggles against untouchability... Ezhavas memorial, vaikkom Satyagraha, temple entry entry proclamation... Read these atleast from google before debate with me...

Chovans didn't converted to Christians???
You are so funny little guy... Read history more before womitting shit... Even sanki magazines always cry about these convertions...Thosands converted in 1820s... In the years 1907 and 1931, over 5300 Ezhava families opted to be Christians . First generation converts were known as Chopillas (Chovan Mapilla).

LOL at your Lies about St. Thomas.

More chrislamist lies to cover up their status as low caste rice bag converts.
:lol:

From 1274 to 1369 the remains of St Thomas rested in Fossanova, Italy. In 1369 they were transferred to the Convent of the Jacobins in Toulouse, France. They remained here until the French Revolution. At this time they were moved for their protection a few blocks away to the Basilica of St Sernin in Toulouse. From 1789 to 1974 they remained within this church. Finally, in 1974 in honor of the 700th anniversary of the death of St Thomas the remains were returned to the Convent of the Jacobins in Toulouse.

This is where it is currently kept.

Choke on that liar. Shame on you for lying shamelessly.
Why are you comments about remnants of ST. THOMAS you idiot... Came here without basic knowledge...
Atleast read Wikipedia you idiot...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_the_Apostle
Traditionally, he is said to have travelled outside the Roman Empire to preach the Gospel, travelling as far as Tamilakam which are the states of Tamil Nadu and Kerala in present-day India.According to tradition, Thomas reached Muziris, (modern-day North Paravur and Kodungalloor in the state of Kerala, India) in 50 AD and baptized several people, founding what today are known as Saint Thomas Christians or Mar Thoma Nazranis. After his death, the reputed relics of Saint Thomas the Apostle were enshrined as far as Mesopotamia in the 3rd century, and later moved to various places.In 1258, some of the relics were brought to Abruzzo in Ortona, Italy, where they have been held in the Church of Saint Thomas the Apostle. He is often regarded as the Patron Saint of India,and the name Thomaremains quite popular among Saint Thomas Christians of India. St. Thomas is the father and founder of Mar Thoma Nazrani Church known as Syro Malabar Catholic Church in Kerala, India. The major archbishop of Syro Malabar Catholic Church and Katholicos of Malankara orthodox church claims successorship to throne of St. Thomas.
 
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Ha ha... Seems like you are a Chovan...
You have no knowledge at all and is so arrogant...
Chovans were not considered even as shudra Varna... So they were categorised as avarnas... They were not even allowed to enter the premises of temples... Read the real history other than sanki history...
Do you know ‘Dalawa Kulam Incident’... That was the first ever attempt at entry into the temple by Ezhava youth in 1803-4. But failed miserably by Koya kutty and Nair youths... In 1903 SNDP formed & only a fool not know their struggles against untouchability... Ezhavas memorial, vaikkom Satyagraha, temple entry entry proclamation... Read these atleast from google before debate with me...

Chovans didn't converted to Christians???
You are so funny little guy... Read history more before womitting shit... Even sanki magazines always cry about these convertions...Thosands converted in 1820s... In the years 1907 and 1931, over 5300 Ezhava families opted to be Christians . First generation converts were known as Chopillas (Chovan Mapilla).

See how easily your pretense of being a "dinkoism" follower falls apart and your true Christian bigot face is revealed LOL.

5,300 conversions is NOTHING. That is not even 0.1% of the chovan population :lol:

Ezhava under NarayanaGuru built their own temples. Ezhava Thiya had their own school of Kalari and were soldiers in the kerala army. Thiyya warriors ( Ezhava ) known as Chekavar were Samurais of kerala. The martial art Kalari was inherent to Chekavar. Origin of northern Kalari were from these North Malabar knightly Chekavars.

Unniyarcha,Wayanadan Kulavan, Aromal Chekavar, Koodan Gurukkal Chekavar who conquered Bakel fort from Bamini Sultans in 1370s.

Unnikannan Chekavar , Aromalunni Chekkavar , Chandu Chekavar , Arangodar Chekavar , Kurooli Chekavar who lived in 18the century in vadagara , Kannappa Chekavar , Chemmat Ouvay Chevar of Calicut mentioned in Keralolpathy.

Thacholi Othen
was born to a chekava girl Akkama Uppatti , Shankaran Moopan who was Commander in Chief of Pazhashiraja’s Army etc were Chekavar warriors in Kerala.


Sangham Literature show that the security guards of Chera king were Parayah warriors who belongs to Parayah caste. The same Parayah caste later became Avarna.

Funny how these facts are not taught in chrislamist controlled schools of kerala.

Why are you comments about remnants of ST. THOMAS you idiot... Came here without basic knowledge...
Atleast read Wikipedia you idiot...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_the_Apostle
Traditionally, he is said to have travelled outside the Roman Empire to preach the Gospel, travelling as far as Tamilakam which are the states of Tamil Nadu and Kerala in present-day India.According to tradition, Thomas reached Muziris, (modern-day North Paravur and Kodungalloor in the state of Kerala, India) in 50 AD and baptized several people, founding what today are known as Saint Thomas Christians or Mar Thoma Nazranis. After his death, the reputed relics of Saint Thomas the Apostle were enshrined as far as Mesopotamia in the 3rd century, and later moved to various places.In 1258, some of the relics were brought to Abruzzo in Ortona, Italy, where they have been held in the Church of Saint Thomas the Apostle. He is often regarded as the Patron Saint of India,and the name Thomaremains quite popular among Saint Thomas Christians of India. St. Thomas is the father and founder of Mar Thoma Nazrani Church known as Syro Malabar Catholic Church in Kerala, India. The major archbishop of Syro Malabar Catholic Church and Katholicos of Malankara orthodox church claims successorship to throne of St. Thomas.

Crack Pot theories where spun as lies by rice bag converts to hide their shame of conversions. St. Thomas lies is one such well established "fake news" from the early 19th century.

The "according to traditions" is the key operative word here :cheesy:

THIS IS THE TRUTH .......... but can chrislamist like you digest the truth ? :lol:

The legend of St. Thomas in India has its origin in the third century Gnostic religious text known as the Acts of Thomas. Judas Thomas called Didymus, identified in the Acts as the look-alike twin brother of Jesus, had travelled in Syria and Persia and had established a church in Fars (somewhere in erstwhile Persia). Judas Thomas was known as the Apostle of the East in all of West Asia and India up to the 1950s. His cult was brought to India by Syrian Christian refugees from Edessa and Babylon in the fourth century. Between the fourth and the sixteenth centuries, the Syrian Christians reinvented the tale many times over until at last they had St. Thomas coming to India himself to evangelize the heathen. St. Thomas then becomes the founder of Christianity in India and their very own “Indian” apostle.
 
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Ezhavas were untouchables... They are not allowed to enter the temples... Not even allowed to use public roads around the temples...

a Nair can approach but not touch a Namboodiri Brahmin: a Chovan [Ezhava] must remain thirty-six paces off, and a Pulayan slave ninety-six steps distant. A Chovan must remain twelve steps away from a Nair, and a Pulayan sixty-six steps off, and a Parayan some distance farther still. Pulayans and Parayars, who are the lowest of all, can approach but not touch, much less may they eat with each other.

Read about vaikkom Satyagraha against untouchability...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaikom_Satyagraha
And temple entry proclamation in 1936..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Entry_Proclamation


Caste system is still prevails... Nair's never marry ezhavas... Ezhavas never marry pulayas... Parayas, kurava....
In christianity also caste system prevails... Converted SC & ST remains parayas and kuravas... Saint Thomas Christians or syrian Christians in Kerala who trace their origins to the evangelistic activity of Thomas the Apostle in the 1st century see themselves elites and see other sections low castes...
Nope .Formally they wont marriage but intercast marriage is now happening a lots .

Yup .So it is not something that within the one religion.
Christians also prefer caste even in inter religion marriages .
One member ,a upper caste Christian girl loved her neighbour Ezhava man .
But the family strictly opposing the relation and it was even getting worse when her brother also involved .
As per this member ,he told to him that the family would have been agree if the man was an uppercaste

Ezhavas were untouchables... They are not allowed to enter the temples... Not even allowed to use public roads around the temples...

a Nair can approach but not touch a Namboodiri Brahmin: a Chovan [Ezhava] must remain thirty-six paces off, and a Pulayan slave ninety-six steps distant. A Chovan must remain twelve steps away from a Nair, and a Pulayan sixty-six steps off, and a Parayan some distance farther still. Pulayans and Parayars, who are the lowest of all, can approach but not touch, much less may they eat with each other.

Read about vaikkom Satyagraha against untouchability...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaikom_Satyagraha
And temple entry proclamation in 1936..
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Entry_Proclamation


Caste system is still prevails... Nair's never marry ezhavas... Ezhavas never marry pulayas... Parayas, kurava....
In christianity also caste system prevails... Converted SC & ST remains parayas and kuravas... Saint Thomas Christians or syrian Christians in Kerala who trace their origins to the evangelistic activity of Thomas the Apostle in the 1st century see themselves elites and see other sections low castes...

Avarna and untouchables were different .
Ezhavas were Avarna but not untouchables
 
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Avarna and untouchables were different .
Ezhavas were Avarna but not untouchables
https://dalitskerala.wordpress.com/2010/07/15/untouchability-in-kerala/

Untouchability in Kerala
As per historians untouchability started in Kerala with the advent of Nambudiris. In Kerala, anyone who was not a Namboothiri, was treated by the Namboothiris as an untouchable. The Namboothiris had different rules regarding the degrees of pollution for the different classes. If a Namboothiri happens to touch or comes in physical contact with an Embraanthiri, he gets the Embraan Sudham, which is supposed to be one step lower in rank among various types of purity of Namboothiris. But it is not compulsory that an adult male Namboothiri should bathe before performing "sandhyaavandanam" if he is polluted due to "Embraan sudham". Also Namboothiris will get Eda Sudham if they are polluted by the touch of Iyers. Namboothiri women (and not men) are not permitted to eat if they become Eda Sudham. For doing Sandhyaavandanam, Namboothiris should take bath if they are polluted with Eda Sudham. Asudhams are practised not only by Namboothiris, but also people of other communities in Kerala, such as the royal families, temple employees, Nairs, etc., who are closely associated with Namboothiris. Other South Indian Brahmanans also follow this custom. Clothes of Namboothiris, washed by Veluthedans , if touched by other Nairs, are not impure. But if touched by a person below the rank in the hierarchies of caste system, it becomes impure.ther classes had different distances after which they could be considered polluting. For example, if an Ezhava got within 24 feet of a Namboothiri, the Namboothiri was considered to be polluted. Untouchability was not isolated to Hindus in Kerala, amongst Christians the original Syrian Malabar Nasranis considered newly converted Latin Christians (usually fishermen) to be untouchables.

The most extreme form of untouchabilityin all of India was practised in Kerala.

A Nair was expected to instantly cut down a Mucua, thiyya( ezhava sub caste ) who presumed to defile him by touching his person; and a similar fate awaited a slave, who did not turn out of the road as a Nair passed"[8] According to Kerala tradition the Dalits were forced to maintain a distance of 64 feet from Savarnas as they were thought to pollute them.[9] Other castes like Nayadis, Kanisans and Mukkuvans were forbidden within 72 feet, 32 feet and 24 feet respectively from Savarnas.[10]

When British banned the right of the Nairs to carry swords with them, caste related violence steeply decreased[citation needed]. The observance of untouchability vanished consequent to the movements of social reforms, especially the one initiated by Sree Narayana Guru (spiritual leader of ezhava). Temple Entry Proclamation of the Raja of Travancore effective by put a end to the system of untouchability in South Kerala.
 
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