Kerala School Drops Vande Mataram from I-Day Programme as Radical Group Objects

[Iggy]

you dont need any authority. its basic rule of Islam anyone who bows to idols is NOT a Muslim simple as that.

And am not custodian of Islam.

Why are you running short of reasoning ?

Why vande mataram should be sing in Indian schools????

Just because they sing vandematharam, they become automatically out of your religion?? Do you have any idea how moronic it sounds?? Where am I running short of reasoning.. You didnt even answered any of the questions I have asked.. Why not Vandematharam shouldnt be sing in Indian schools.. There are students from many religions studying in schools.. If some one find it offensive, then dont sing it.. Rest can sing it.. Just because some guys find it offensive, Vande matharam cannot be banned.. If that the case, then every religion should be banned from the world because there are some customs and practices which offend other religions..

 

[trueINDIANpatriot]

you dont need any authority. its basic rule of Islam anyone who bows to idols is NOT a Muslim simple as that.

And am not custodian of Islam.

Why are you running short of reasoning ?

Why vande mataram should be sing in Indian schools????

Why should it be a concern to you my dear...??Our land our song our people....If you are so wide-hearted as you sound or atleast try preachin to us why not join hands with the other clan of Muslims??Shia/Sunni what ever the divide be..I kno you ll come cryin back and say de-railing from the topic which is the convenient reply but I pointed this since you are so worried about muslims across..Even I should be worried about my brothers getting killed in Karachi(Muslims)..

 

[illusion8]

The scary thing is that, even though they do not have much support.. They managed to field candidates in every constituency in Kerala.. Their income source should be checked.. Its becoming a matter of concern.

Not a big thing to field candidates - (most of them would be islamic radicals anyways), any new party can field candidates, this being a muslim extremist group is a worrying thing. Most of their funding will be muslim wahaabi or anti India sources of funding.

 

[punit]

you dont need any authority. its basic rule of Islam anyone who bows to idols is NOT a Muslim simple as that.

And am not custodian of Islam.

Why are you running short of reasoning ?

Why vande mataram should be sing in Indian schools????

So AR Rahman who Re-composed Vande Mataram is lesser Muslim! One can respect two things ( religion and country) at the same time. How about saluting ur national flag is that allowed in Islam ?

 

[utraash]

I also am not surprised why India is full of radical hindus NVM



Schools are educational institutes so why a religious song be imposed on students to sing in India when you also claim to be champion of secularism ?

We don't have highly secular laws as Blasphemy in Pakistan.
Still we are proud radicals if you insist Mohtarmma....

So AR Rahman who Re-composed Vande Mataram is lesser Muslim! One can respect two things ( religion and country) at the same time. How about saluting ur national flag is that allowed in Islam ?

She feels no duties of her towards her nation as a responsible citizen but to only obliging to their religious dos n,dons....

 

[Spring Onion]

Just because they sing vandematharam, they become automatically out of your religion?? Do you have any idea how moronic it sounds?? Where am I running short of reasoning.. You didnt even answered any of the questions I have asked.. Why not Vandematharam shouldnt be sing in Indian schools.. There are students from many religions studying in schools.. If some one find it offensive, then dont sing it.. Rest can sing it.. Just because some guys find it offensive, Vande matharam cannot be banned.. If that the case, then every religion should be banned from the world because there are some customs and practices which offend other religions..

read my post again. then comment.

Bowing to idols indeed sends you out of my faith. simple as that .

There is no room for idols in my faith.

You did not answer me why vande mataram should be sing in schools?

 

[nair]

You did not answer me why vande mataram should be sing in schools?

Are we discussing the subject in General or this particular incident posted by OP?

 

[Spring Onion]

Why should it be a concern to you my dear...??Our land our song our people....If you are so wide-hearted as you sound or atleast try preachin to us why not join hands with the other clan of Muslims??Shia/Sunni what ever the divide be..I kno you ll come cryin back and say de-railing from the topic which is the convenient reply but I pointed this since you are so worried about muslims across..Even I should be worried about my brothers getting killed in Karachi(Muslims)..

if this is not my concern then why those issues are your concern?

NVM. we dint stop you from debating those issues in fact its you who is hiding behind excuses here

Are we discussing the subject in General or this particular incident posted by OP?

The subject as its the core of this incident.

Note: Personally i feel if it is being sung on an occasion like ID day in Indian schools by Hindu students/ teachers/staff that is not an issue. the main issue is why this should be sung daily in schools? specially when non-Hindu groups have objections against even before partition

We don't have highly secular laws as Blasphemy in Pakistan.
Still we are proud radicals if you insist Mohtarmma....


She feels no duties of her towards her nation as a responsible citizen but to only obliging to their religious dos n,dons....

personal attacks . hmmm surely your trait

 

[Nova2]

Muslims who are objecting to it in this case are NOT wrong. So surely i side with them.




Those who bow to idols are not our concern these Muslims who want to sing can do that not our problem since they already bow to idols they are already out of Islamic faith so we dont object if they have no issue.

Oh so a muslim singing vande matram is not a muslim anymore @utraash damn man didn't you inform your fried that he is not a muslim anymore
I hv studied at catholic school aswell,i had fun sining hale luyia ,but by that logic i m not a hindu anymore

 

[nair]

Note: Personally i feel if it is being sung on an occasion like ID day in Indian schools by Hindu students/ teachers/staff that is not an issue.

When some one opposes this, that makes them the radicals..... and their intention is very clear, create divide between the communities.....so that they can remain relevant...... And guess what? Then will never succeed in it...

 

[utraash]

if this is not my concern then why those issues are your concern?

NVM. we dint stop you from debating those issues in fact its you who is hiding behind excuses here



The subject as its the core of this incident.

Note: Personally i feel if it is being sung on an occasion like ID day in Indian schools by Hindu students/ teachers/staff that is not an issue. the main issue is why this should be sung daily in schools? specially when non-Hindu groups have objections against even before partition



personal attacks . hmmm surely your trait

Not mine but you have surely shown your religious traits ..... I am done... Thanks for all valuable post dear....

 

[Spring Onion]

Oh so a muslim singing vande matram is not a muslim anymore @utraash damn man didn't you inform your fried that he is not a muslim anymore
I hv studied at catholic school aswell,i had fun sining hale luyia ,but by that logic i m not a hindu anymore

first of all i dint say that.

Secondly you hindus can worship anything on earth so NO chanting that cant make you non-hindu.

We Muslims dont worshiping objects.

We just bow to only ONE GOD

When some one opposes this, that makes them the radicals..... and their intention is very clear, create divide between the communities.....so that they can remain relevant...... And guess what? Then will never succeed in it...

NO this does not make them radicals.

Those who are insisting on imposing it are radicals .
Why dont you call them radicals ? just because they are Hindus.

By your logic Sikhs are also radicals? who opposed it.

anyway none of you came up with any reply why a hindu religious song be sung in Schools ?

 

[trueINDIANpatriot]

read my post again. then comment.

Bowing to idols indeed sends you out of my faith. simple as that .

There is no room for idols in my faith.

You did not answer me why vande mataram should be sing in schools?

Simple answer is its there from the past half century there is no need to take that away...
Moreover we frame wat to sing and wat not to sing not certainly by the advice of others ...

 

[punit]

read my post again. then comment.

Bowing to idols indeed sends you out of my faith. simple as that .

There is no room for idols in my faith.

You did not answer me why vande mataram should be sing in schools?

WHICH IDOL! mataram literally means Mother. metaphorically it means mother land.

 

[Spring Onion]

Simple answer is its there from the past half century there is no need to take that away...
Moreover we frame wat to sing and wat not to sing not certainly by the advice of others ...

the more clear answer is that there is no room for this religious song even half century ago there was non .

Muslims in India are not others. its another matter that biased Hindus still dont consider these Muslims as Indians.

These Muslims are asked to prove nationalism by bowing down to Hindu rituals.

WHICH IDOL! mataram literally means Mother. metaphorically it means mother land.

first of all my reply was in another context to another post.

Secondly in Islam we dont bow to even our mothers