Keeping India out of Pakistan-Bangladesh relations

[Manidabest]

And please don't tell me you think that the ancient Sumerians are Hindus because they also used idols in their religion
The Incan, Mayan and Aztec peoples had idols that were prominent in their religions as well. Are they Hindus too?

same wine in different bottles basically "idol worship" ( i have nuthing against any religion its just a discussion)

 

[24 Hours]

same wine in different bottles basically "idol worship" ( i have nuthing against any religion its just a discussion)

Idol worship is only one part of these belief systems. Don't dismiss them all as the same because they all use idols. Should Islam, Christianity, and Judaism should be the same religions because they believe in the same God? You and I both know the answer to that is an obvious no.

 

[Manidabest]

Idol worship is only one part of these belief systems. Don't dismiss them all as the same because they all use idols. Should Islam, Christianity, and Judaism should be the same religions because they believe in the same God? You and I both know the answer to that is an obvious no.

a part of it or it takes a central place u know and i know idol worship is a broad term that covers idol worship , its aspects and anything related to to it ... the difference between islam , christianity and judaism r also there and clearly visible and undestable ...those differences makes them different from each other.....

 

[Mage]

page 31, Buzan and Weaver, Regions and Powers: The Structure of International Security (Cambridge Studies in International Relations)

You are a Cambridge certified regional power? Okay.

 

[Kambojaric]

You are a Cambridge certified regional power? Okay.

Barry Gordon Buzan is Emeritus Professor of International Relations at the London School of Economics

Ole Wæver is a professor of International Relations at the Department of Political Science, University of Copenhagen.

Well established academics within the field of international relations and politics hold this view. If you have a problem with it, take it up with them.

 

[wiseone2]

well after all this discussion i find that u r a frog in a well ... so instead of wasting time on answering your questions i would rather spend time on something useful


pls dont tell me that idols dont have central part in hinduism

Idol worship alone not equal to Hinduism. Variants of Buddhism have Buddha as idols.
Lot of religions around the world had idol worship.

 

[24 Hours]

a part of it or it takes a central place u know and i know idol worship is a broad term that covers idol worship , its aspects and anything related to to it ... the difference between islam , christianity and judaism r also there and clearly visible and undestable ...those differences makes them different from each other.....

So you admit that your claims of Sumerians being Hindus is incorrect? Because damn, I don't even think Hindu nationalists make such claims.

 

[Mage]

Barry Gordon Buzan is Emeritus Professor of International Relations at the London School of Economics

Ole Wæver is a professor of International Relations at the Department of Political Science, University of Copenhagen.

Well established academics within the field of international relations and politics hold this view. If you have a problem with it, take it up with them.

Okay. Scholar certified regional power, it is then.

 

[Nilgiri]

So you admit that your claims of Sumerians being Hindus is incorrect? Because damn, I don't even think Hindu nationalists make such claims.

Maybe he is looking for the word pagan?

I believe the word pagan is used in the Koran, so it gets applied locally for whichever culture pre-existed Islam in some area.....so lot of ppl get their historicity mixed up as a result. In Hinduism sake, its complicated by continued existence and its ongoing evolution/integration etc....largely it is an open source + linux based philosophical system as to how it operates long term...there are religious and non religious elements...often in some form of contrast/contradiction and even conflict...

This in itself contrasts severely with abrahamic monotheistic systems that often define the word "religion" in typical parlance...and the newest "tribal arab/expansionary" version/iterations of it.

 

[24 Hours]

Maybe he is looking for the word pagan?

I believe the word pagan is used in the Koran, so it gets applied locally for whichever culture pre-existed Islam in some area.....so lot of ppl get their historicity mixed up as a result. In Hinduism sake, its complicated by continued existence and its ongoing evolution/integration etc....largely it is an open source + linux based philosophical system as to how it operates long term...there are religious and non religious elements...often in some form of contrast/contradiction and even conflict...

This in itself contrasts severely with abrahamic monotheistic systems that often define the word "religion" in typical parlance...and the newest "tribal arab/expansionary" version/iterations of it.

He stated in post #144 that he believed that Hinduism's origin started based on Abraham/Ibrahim smashing idols in a passage. Both religions are polytheistic and used idols but one should just read on the beliefs and note there are key differences between them. Or just look at the aesthetics of the idols in both religions. It's quite clear that they're different.

Honestly, if we're going to state that Sumer was the origin of pagan religions we might as well state that religion in general originated in Sumer.

 

[Nilgiri]

He stated in post #144 that he believed that Hinduism's origin started based on Abraham/Ibrahim smashing idols in a passage. Both religions are polytheistic and used idols but one should just read on the beliefs and note there are key differences between them. Or just look at the aesthetics of the idols in both religions. It's quite clear that they're different.

Honestly, if we're going to state that Sumer was the origin of pagan religions we might as well state that religion in general originated in Sumer.

Pretty sure religion and paganism started well before Sumer. But yeah I get what you are saying, honestly I dunno why this convo evolved to this particularly, am not too inclined to check either.

 

[Manidabest]

Idol worship alone not equal to Hinduism. Variants of Buddhism have Buddha as idols.
Lot of religions around the world had idol worship.

yes indeed but idol worship is part of a religion and in our case we dont believe in it at all ....

So you admit that your claims of Sumerians being Hindus is incorrect? Because damn, I don't even think Hindu nationalists make such claims.

i m talking about idol worshipping

 

[wiseone2]

yes indeed but idol worship is part of a religion and in our case we dont believe in it at all ....

all idol worshippers are not Hindus
if your Prophet smashed idols in Arabia it does not mean it belonged to Hindus as you claim

 

[Manidabest]

all idol worshippers are not Hindus
if your Prophet smashed idols in Arabia it does not mean it belonged to Hindus as you claim

indeed i never claim that all idol worshippers are hindus and if u recall earlier i said there is a hint of it and i gave reference to idol worshipping

 

[Bilal9]

@The Eagle bhai lets close this wayward thread please. Too many OT posts regarding religion.