Kazakhstan's navy hopes to introduce the Chinese Type 056 missile frigate

[Beast]

Nobody says that Turkey has huge economy as like the US and China ,,,,
Turkey has only $2,2 trillion of GDP PPP ( 13th biggest economy in the world ) still Turkey develops over 600 military projects and we dont compare Turkey with anyone

we have only targets vision 2023 , vision 2053 and vision 2071 to become global power again
and Turks can do it , 2500 years Turkish history many times has proven that







its not nationalism .. its reality

S.Korea,Japan,Australia,Spain,etc uses American AEGIS Combat Management System and American AN/SPY1 Radar and American weapons ...... but Turkey has developed its own GENESIS Combat Management System and 450+ km CAFRAD AESA Radar and Turkey develops weapons for TF-2000 class Destroyer project

-- GENESIS Combat Management System
-- 450 km CAFRAD Multi-function/illumination/Fire control/Long range Radar complex
-- HISAR-O and HISAR-U surface to air Missiles
-- KORKUT-D 35mm CIWS
-- 220+ km ATMACA network enabled anti ship Missile
-- GEZGIN Land attack cruise Missile
-- SAPAN Rolling Airframe Missile
-- TUBITAK high energy LASER
-- ORKA Leightweight Torpedo
-- TORK Hard-Kill Torpedo Countermeasure System
-- HIZIR Torpedo Countermeasure System
-- HIZIR-LFAS Low Frequency Towed Active Sonar

even TUFAN and SAHI-209 hypersonic Electromagnetic Railguns






even India is dreaming about it but uses 250km Israeli Radar on Kolkota class Destroyer

Turkish 450 km CAFRAD Multi-function/illumination/Fire control/Long range Radar complex

Lol.. looks like this guy is high on drugs? Where did u get the USD 2.2 trillion from? You print it yourself? Technology links witj dollar, this is a fact nobody can deny. That is why top economy like germany, japan, France and China can have top technology. And the so called system you brag. Looks good but with many sub system are imported. And these sub system are critical and very hard to replicate or invent a new one. They need extensive research investment and powerful Industries to make it happen.

 

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The whole of Turkey is an overseas state of the United States, and is a remote one that is not loved.

Suleiman the Magnificent is sad and crying!!!

the United States saved your pathetic chinese asss from Japan in ww2
China is getting an overseas slave state of the Zionist Empire as like slave the US and slave the UK

and Ottoman Empire ruled 44 countries in 3 continents for centuries
also Turkic dynasties ruled India and Iran for centuries

what about China ? nothing very funny
Chinese wanted to invade Central Asia and Middle East but Turks and Arabs kicked little chinese in 751 battle of Talas ........ China is nothing

Lol.. looks like this guy is high on drugs? Where did u get the USD 2.2 trillion from? You print it yourself?

what an ignorant TROLL ,,,,,,,, you dont know even what about GD PPP
I am talking about GDP PPP , not GDP Nominal
and Turkey has $2,2 trillion of GDP PPP

That is why top economy like germany, japan, France and China can have top technology. And the so called system you brag. Looks good but with many sub system are imported. And these sub system are critical and very hard to replicate or invent a new one. They need extensive research investment and powerful Industries to make it happen.

in the last 20 years China copied everything from Soviet technology ,,,
even Israel gave American secret electronics and missile technology to China

The C.I.A. says China has been acquiring advanced military technology from Israel for more than a decade on programs for jet fighters, air-to-air missiles and tanks

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/13/world/israel-sells-arms-to-china-us-says.html


even WZ-16 Turboshaft engine has been jointly developed by French Safran Helicopter Engine and China AECC consortium


the US,Russia,Germany,France have technology but China has no ,, only copy , nothing else

I've never thought that Turkey and Turkish people can act Indian, with shameless lies, boasting on this forum (when compared themselves to China), because it seems to be the problem only with Indian and Hindu. But now, not only Turkish, but even some German forumers act exactly like Indian on this forum.

India and China are same crap ........ with over 1 billion of poor population

China is nothing but very good iln copy soviet weapon technology

 

[Beast]

the United States saved your pathetic chinese asss from Japan in ww2
China is getting an overseas slave state of the Zionist Empire as like slave the US and slave the UK

and Ottoman Empire ruled 44 countries in 3 continents for centuries
also Turkic dynasties ruled India and Iran for centuries

what about China ? nothing very funny
Chinese wanted to invade Central Asia and Middle East but Turks and Arabs kicked little chinese in 751 battle of Talas ........ China is nothing

Lol... Even at height of ottoman empire, it just occupy a little space of land compare to current China. And we have an idiot bragging here. In fact the western break up the ottoman empire and they never recovered. Thankfully the western show some little mercy and turkey still exist in small a piece.

The turkey for last 50years exist only by leech on NATO and Europe. They are the sole reason turkey can progress a little. Look at your lira. Almost turn worthless , just like you. I can used it to wipe my butt cos the value is as good as thrash.

the United States saved your pathetic chinese asss from Japan in ww2
China is getting an overseas slave state of the Zionist Empire as like slave the US and slave the UK

and Ottoman Empire ruled 44 countries in 3 continents for centuries
also Turkic dynasties ruled India and Iran for centuries

what about China ? nothing very funny
Chinese wanted to invade Central Asia and Middle East but Turks and Arabs kicked little chinese in 751 battle of Talas ........ China is nothing



what an ignorant TROLL ,,,,,,,, you dont know even what about GD PPP
I am talking about GDP PPP , not GDP Nominal
and Turkey has $2,2 trillion of GDP PPP




in the last 20 years China copied everything from Soviet technology ,,,
even Israel gave American secret electronics and missile technology to China

The C.I.A. says China has been acquiring advanced military technology from Israel for more than a decade on programs for jet fighters, air-to-air missiles and tanks

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/13/world/israel-sells-arms-to-china-us-says.html


even WZ-16 Turboshaft engine has been jointly developed by French Safran Helicopter Engine and China AECC consortium


the US,Russia,Germany,France have technology but China has no ,, only copy , nothing else



India and China are same crap ........ with over 1 billion of poor population

China is nothing but very good iln copy soviet weapon technology

Lol...you need to look into mirror. Turkey copy Chinese ballistic missile as BM-111, Copy agusta gun ship as TA129, copy leopard 2 as Altay, copy German submarine as your own. And we have a smart alec which got the cheek to accuse others. This is just like a 1.5m tall guy trying to mock a 1.7m taller guy as short.

 

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Lol... Even at height of ottoman empire, it just occupy a little space of land compare to current China. And we have an idiot bragging here.

you are the only idiot here ,, you have IQ less than 70

Turks conquered India,Iran,Anatolia,part of Russia,Ukraine,Egypt,all middle East and 1/3 of Europe
in 1683 , 3 Turkic Empires ( Ottoman Empire , Safavids in Iran and Mughal Empire in India ) ruled so huge land from Hungary to China

if 3 Turkic Empires ( Ottoman Empire , Safavids in Iran and Mughal Empire in India ) would attack on Europe in 1683 , all Europe would be part of the 3 Turkic Empires ( Ottoman Empire , Safavids in Iran and Mughal Empire in India )


China tried to conquer central Asia and middle east but Turks and Arabs kicked little chinese in 751 battle of Talas
very funny

I have no waste time for TROLL like you ........ topic is over

 

[Beast]

you are the only idiot here ,, you have IQ less than 70

Turks conquered India,Iran,Anatolia,part of Russia,Ukraine,Egypt,all middle East and 1/3 of Europe
in 1683 , 3 Turkic Empires ( Ottoman Empire , Safavids in Iran and Mughal Empire in India ) ruled so huge land from Hungary to China

if 3 Turkic Empires ( Ottoman Empire , Safavids in Iran and Mughal Empire in India ) would attack on Europe in 1683 , all Europe would be part of the 3 Turkic Empires ( Ottoman Empire , Safavids in Iran and Mughal Empire in India )


China tried to conquer central Asia and middle east but Turks and Arabs kicked little chinese in 751 battle of Talas
very funny

I have no waste time for TROLL like you ........ topic is over

Lol... Everybody just look at current China size vs Turkey size and will know who is the real idiot. China near retain the empire our ancestors build up while turkey almost lost everything.

 

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Lol...you need to look into mirror. Turkey copy Chinese ballistic missile as BM-111, Copy agusta gun ship as TA129, copy leopard 2 as Altay, copy German submarine as your own. And we have a smart alec which got the cheek to accuse others. This is just like a 1.5m tall guy trying to mock a 1.7mm taller guy as short.

China copied soviet missile technology ,,, and Turkey doesnt copy anything

Russia desined developed and gave Z10 Attack Helicopter to China ,,,,,,

And Turkey gives money for jointly development projects
Turkey gave $2 billion to Agusta Westland for T129 platform ( btw Italy uses American-British engine but Turkey develops its own TEI TS1400 turboshaft engine for T129 )
Turkey gave $500 million to S.Korea for technical support for ALTAY Tank

nothing else ......... Turkish weapons are not copy as like Chinese weapons

Everybody just look at current China size vs Turkey size and will know who is the real idiot. China near retain the empire our ancestors build up while turkey almost lost everything

nobody compare Turkey economic size with China economic size .. idiot .. stop provoke people

China never ruled even a tiny country in history and never will rule
enjoy with each others with 1 billion of poor population

 

[AViet]

Most Turkish people are Turkified Southern European, who were conquered and enslaved by Seljuk (mostly) Mongoloid Turkic from Central Asia, therefore, they are not blood-related to the Turkic empires in China, Mongolia or Central Asia.

I've heard that on the mural painting in Middle Ages in Turkey about Seljuk conquerors, the initial rulers all look Mongoloid, with relatively flat noses. Over time in later centuries, the painted rulers gradually look more European.

Similar to Golden Horde rulers. First rulers were all Mongoloid, but over time, they mated with European slaves / Russian aristocratic wives and their children gradually look European (watch the Russian movie the Golden Horde).

 

[Beast]

China copied soviet missile technology ,,, and Turkey doesnt copy anything

Russia desined developed and gave Z10 Attack Helicopter to China ,,,,,,

And Turkey gives money for jointly development projects
Turkey gave $2 billion to Agusta Westland for T129 platform ( btw Italy uses American-British engine but Turkey develops its own TEI TS1400 turboshaft engine for T129 )
Turkey gave $500 million to S.Korea for technical support for ALTAY Tank

nothing else ......... Turkish weapons are not copy as like Chinese weapons



nobody compare Turkey economic size with China economic size .. idiot .. stop provoke people

China never ruled even a tiny country in history and never will rule
enjoy with each others with 1 billion of poor population

You are saying useless turkey paid others to give technology? So what is there to talk about building it as your own?

Trump and west now all threaten to sanction turkey. Turkey MIlitary will came to standstill without west support. Your so-called engines and turboshaft are still infant and far from operational product. You still need to bend over for the west to keep survive. Now the worst is Turkish lira is almost as worthless as toilet roll.

You can enjoy your ottoman empire in your pipe dream.

 

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Most Turkish people are Turkified Southern European, who were conquered and enslaved by Seljuk (mostly) Mongoloid Turkic from Central Asia, therefore, they are not blood-related to the Turkic empires in China, Mongolia or Central Asia

You are trying to teach me my history , very funny

Turks ruled Mongolia for centuries ,, even old Turkish script is the alphabet used by the Göktürks and other early Turkic khanates named the Orkhon Valley in Mongolia


OGHUZ TURKS ( Turkey ,Azerbaijan ,Turkmenistan ) and KIPCHAK TURKS ( Tatar,Uyghur,Kyrgyz,Kazakh,Uzbek )


Seljuks and Ottomans were 100% Turks from Oghuz Turks and they were Turkish dynasties


OSMAN GAZI was founder of the Ottoman Empire 1299


They never look Mongoloid and Ottoman SULTANs married with slavic , european girls


OGHUZ TURKS created the great Seljuk Empire and Ottoman Empire , also Safavids in Iran
KIPCHAK TURKS created Golden Horde in Russia , Mughal Empire in India , Mamluks in Egypt


even Ashkenazi Jews have Turkic Khazar origin .... Khazar Empire was a Turkic empire in
and today's Ashkenazi Jews descended from Khazarian Jewish diaspora who had migrated westward from modern Russia and Ukraine into modern Polland , Hungary France and Germany

also Bulgarians have Turkic origin from central Asia but they slavized in Balkans


and there are millions of Albanians,Bosnians,Circassians,Georgians,Chechens,Arabs,Kurds in Turkey

 

[AViet]

You are trying to teach me my history , very funny

Turks ruled Mongolia for centuries ,, even old Turkish script is the alphabet used by the Göktürks and other early Turkic khanates named the Orkhon Valley in Mongolia


OGHUZ TURKS ( Turkey ,Azerbaijan ,Turkmenistan ) and KIPCHAK TURKS ( Tatar,Uyghur,Kyrgyz,Kazakh,Uzbek )


Seljuks and Ottomans were 100% Turks from Oghuz Turks and they were Turkish dynasties


OSMAN GAZI was founder of the Ottoman Empire 1299


They never look Mongoloid and Ottoman SULTANs married with slavic , european girls


OGHUZ TURKS created the great Seljuk Empire and Ottoman Empire , also Safavids in Iran
KIPCHAK TURKS created Golden Horde in Russia , Mughal Empire in India , Mamluks in Egypt


even Ashkenazi Jews have Turkic Khazar origin .... Khazar Empire was a Turkic empire in
and today's Ashkenazi Jews descended from Khazarian Jewish diaspora who had migrated westward from modern Russia and Ukraine into modern Polland , Hungary France and Germany

also Bulgarians have Turkic origin from central Asia but they slavized in Balkans


and there are millions of Albanians,Bosnians,Circassians,Georgians,Chechens,Arabs,Kurds in Turkey

Possibly I know more about Turkic history than most of Turkish people. That is normal. Most of Vietnamese may have never read an authentic book about Vietnamese history as well, although we were civilized and have our own history records thousands years before most European.

Your knowledge about your own history have been twisted by nationalistic view. However, it proves one of my point: modern Turkish has nothing in common with Turkic empires in China or Mongolia.

 

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You are saying useless turkey paid others to give technology? So what is there to talk about building it as your own?

Turkey paid money for only T129 and ALTAY , nothing else
its better than useless China who stole technology and copied Soviet technology

and okey lets speak about building it as our own

-- YAVUZ 155mm Howitzer
-- OMTAS nex generation ATGM
-- SOM network enabled cruise Missile
-- ATMACA network enabled anti ship Missile
-- HISAR Air Defense Systems
-- BOZDOGAN and GOKDOGAN air to air Missiles
-- Bayraktar TB2 Tactical UCAV
-- ANKA MALE UCAV
-- AKINCI HALE UCAV
-- T-625 Utility Helicopter
-- KORAL Radar Electronic Warfare System
-- MEHPOD Jamming Pod
-- ASELPOD Targeting Pod
-- Airborne stand off Jammer
-- 450km CAFRAD Naval AESA Radar
-- 600 km EIRS early warning AESA Radar
-- ADA class stealth Corvette
-- MILGEM-I class stealth Frigate
-- TF-2000 class Destroyer
-- 137 meters LST
-- 200 meters Super Tanker
-- TUFAN Electromagnetic Railgun
-- TUBITAK high energy LASER

and hundreds of Turkish military projects



btw TEI TS1400 Turboshaft engine will be ready by 2021 ( only a few countries in the world )

Your knowledge about your own history have been twisted by nationalistic view. However, it proves one of my point: modern Turkish has nothing in common with Turkic empires in China or Mongolia

I told you about Turkic history ,, wtf are you still trolling ? you know nothing about the Turks ( over 250 millions of Turkic people in the world including Tatars,Baskirs in Russia , Azeris in Iran , Uyghurs in China )

GOKTURKS in Central Asia - SELJUKS and OTTOMANS are same from Oghuz Turks and have common with Turkic empires in China or Mongolia

modern Turkey = Ottoman Empire , Seljuk Empire , GokTurks ,, even Great Hunnic Empire from 220s BC

its not my view ,, its view of republic of Turkey

The Hun Emperor Mete Khan’s accession to the throne in 209 B.C. is recognized as the foundation of the Army

After defeating the Ghaznians at the Battle of Dandanakan in 1040, the Seljuks declared independence, and continued to secure Anatolia as the new homeland of the Turks with the defeat of the Byzantines at the Battle of Manzikert 1071

TURKISH ARMY OFFICAL WEB SITE http://www.kkk.tsk.tr/en/KKKHakkinda/KKKtarihce.aspx



stop trolling or asimetric warfare against the Turkish People ,,,,,,,,, we very well know about history and nobody can change it



Turkic Khaganate 552–744 ( GökTürks ) ........ Area : 6,000,000 km²
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_Khaganate

Today part of Mongolia Afghanistan China Kazakhstan Kyrgyzstan Russia Tajikistan Turkmenistan Uzbekistan

TURKS attacked on China and TURKS beat Chinese n the Sui and Tang dynasties and TURKS took part of China

 

[OIO]

where is your nuclear weapon if you shit turk are so powerful!?

you know china low quality products coz you paid little and you are poor like indians!

没必要和土耳其比吧，也没必要把印度扯进来。

 

[royalharris]

Why argue with the Turkish guy, lower yourselves level
Let him say whatever he want say, everyone in PDF know the big mouth guy is a joke of turkey

 

[Beast]

Why argue with the Turkish guy, lower yourselves level
Let him say whatever he want say, everyone in PDF know the big mouth guy is a joke of turkey

No, we must ruin their fake lies. They are still many igorant PDF who can be duped easily.
Btw, its also fun to expose these idiot fakes likes like bragging about USD 2.2 trillion economy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

Not to mention, Turkey Lira loses half its value since 2018... which means a USD800 billion economy will turn into USD400 billion by end of 2018.

No money, you can forget about any advances of science and technology.

 

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Btw, its also fun to expose these idiot fakes likes like bragging about USD 2.2 trillion economy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

you are only idiot here ,,, I am talking about GDP PPP , not GDP Nominal ,,, dont lie and be real man

as of 2017 Turkey had $2.173 trillion of GDP PPP and Italy had $2.310 trillion of GDP PPP and France had $2.835 trillion of GDP PPP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)


Nominal GDP does not take into account differences in the cost of living in different countries, and the results can vary greatly from one year to another based on fluctuations in the exchange rates of the Country's currency

but GDP PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country, rather than using International Market exchange rates which may distort the real differences in per capita income

Not to mention, Turkey Lira loses half its value since 2018... which means a USD800 billion economy will turn into USD400 billion by end of 2018.

No money, you can forget about any advances of science and technology.

so Turkey has enough money .... $2.173 trillion of GDP PPP
and We never forget about any advances of science and technology


Turkey’s strategic choice: buy or make weapons?
Turkey doesnt buy weapons , Turkey develops its own weapons
and Turkish develops military projects with national currency ,, no problem