Kayani gives go-ahead for Dir operation

[batmannow]

and in case of an Army operation..you will see many Pushtoon nationalists firghting alongside their "Kilewaal", and others spewing venom against Pak Army on Facebook and other social networking sites,about how bad Pakistan Army is being against their "Pukhtaan...roora...margaray" or waht ever...ignoring the crimes these people committed against Humanity.

70 years later .. many of them are more loyal to Afghanistan than they are to Pakistan.

if there is any proper afghanistan? you jst missed the point?
& pushtun nationalists, i think u need to know what TTP has done to ANP after that comming 70 years no nationalist ever wanted to side by side at any cost with them ?
sovial media, cant blow up churches, mosqes?

 

[batmannow]

Its time rest of pakistanis learn some thing about pashtuns, british knew us while attock-key-uss-paar pakistanis dont.

Edward E. Oliver's says
"The Pathan is
undoubtedly brave to
rashness, sets no value
upon life, either his
own or anyone else's. Trained from youth to
feats of strength,
endowed with
wonderful power of
endurance, he
commands the most Englishmen".

George W. Gilbertson
in the preface to 'First
Pukkhtoo Book' (1901)
says:
"He (a Pathan) is
withal a proud man, prone to meet scorn
with scorn, and ever
ready to return blow
for blow.”

Colonel 'Buster'
Goodwin stationed for
twenty years on the
Frontier expresses his
feelings about Pathans
this way: "Our dealing with
Pathans was a
gentleman's game. No
matter how poor a
Pathan was, he might
meet the King of England or the Viceroy
of India but he'd look
him in the eye and
shake hands with him
as if to say, I'm as
good a man as you are." ................
"Tales of the dangers
of the Khyber Pass and
the legendary ferocity
of the Pathans stirred
the English
imagination and evoked scenes of
gallant soldier
defending the might
of the Raj against the
equally gallant but
merciless Pahatns.... Nonetheless, if the
British exacted
revenge by razing
whole villages to the
ground, the Pathans
retaliated with ambushes and
slaughter, and even
mutilated wounded
enemies."

For generations, the
Hindus of India prayed
for deliverance from
"the venom of the
cobra, the teeth of the
tiger and the vengeance of the
Afghan."

The Pashtun tribes are
always engaged in
private or public war.
Every man is a warrior,
a politician and a
theologian. Every large house is a real feudal
fortress....Every family
cultivates its vendetta;
every clan, its feud....
Nothing is ever
forgotten and very few debts are left unpaid."
--Winston Churchill

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dont live in the past, if you want be alive today,s world which can bring the terrorists down while doing carpet bommbings on torabora by an B52s , after which those dogs ran back to pakistan for help, & made thier dam base camps in pakistani pushtun areas?
but when PAKARMY stopped them going back , & try to put thier dirty nose in others sh..it , they trun back & started to attack PAKARMY, & its pushtun & non pushtun citizens, just because they can make living out of this bloody bussiness?
well know nt any more, come on lets clean them from dir & from the face of world, i mean the TTp dags right?

 

[Safriz]

if there is any proper afghanistan? you jst missed the point?
& pushtun nationalists, i think u need to know what TTP has done to ANP after that comming 70 years no nationalist ever wanted to side by side at any cost with them ?
sovial media, cant blow up churches, mosqes?

No i didnt miss any point.
ANP is nationalist with a twist. They are also socialists.Mostly have support in Pushtoon urban areas which are not generally terrorism supporters.
Its the tribals who are the root of all terrorism relates peoblems.
Then there is an alienation against Pushtoons who become civilized and veer away from ''old cave man'' life style.
The ultra nationalists dont consider them as their pushtoon bretheren and they are fair game for a brain washed Tribal comng in for some vengence....

 

[batmannow]

Bravery, honor, hospitality, love for islam, fearlessness, resilience, martial tendency, ghairat, having spine is not terrorism and backwardness.

The biggest terrorist is ISI which infested tribal areas with jihadism, which groomed taliban for stretagic depth.....baba-e-taliban is ISI.

whole of your racist, voilent , criminal,terrorist, ideas has nothing to do with islam or pushtun , or even with ISI?
if you are criminal you are , thts too simple?
well ISI may hve groomed talibans, for the better future of afghanistan , even for strategic depth but it never killed them?
if you think , by fighting ISI or pakarmy , you & your like minded terrorist sympathizers, ever going to get some where, let me explore to you that some where only be in hell, no where else?
dir is a beautyfull area, & will be cleared vry soon by pakarmy, hopefully you will be be happy after, looking at the dead bodies of the dogs called themselves TTp , beautyfully killed by PAKARMY in action?

No i didnt miss any point.
ANP is nationalist with a twist. They are also socialists.Mostly have support in Pushtoon urban areas which are not generally terrorism supporters.
Its the tribals who are the root of all terrorism relates peoblems.
Then there is an alienation against Pushtoons who become civilized and veer away from ''old cave man'' life style.
The ultra nationalists dont consider them as their pushtoon bretheren and they are fair game for a brain washed Tribal comng in for some vengence....

tribals?
dont you know, how many tribals hve rissen up against TTp , who is killing thier elders, like carrots?
there could be some element, among them which supporting them because or fear, greed but thats not all?

 

[Informant]

This Pak-one dude needs a visit

 

[Haseebullah]

19 div HQ?
But its no longer in operation and it never was operating in t at area. :/

 

[Safriz]

whole of your racist, voilent , criminal,terrorist, ideas has nothing to do with islam or pushtun , or even with ISI?
if you are criminal you are , thts too simple?
well ISI may hve groomed talibans, for the better future of afghanistan , even for strategic depth but it never killed them?
if you think , by fighting ISI or pakarmy , you & your like minded terrorist sympathizers, ever going to get some where, let me explore to you that some where only be in hell, no where else?
dir is a beautyfull area, & will be cleared vry soon by pakarmy, hopefully you will be be happy after, looking at the dead bodies of the dogs called themselves TTp , beautyfully killed by PAKARMY in action?



tribals?
dont you know, how many tribals hve rissen up against TTp , who is killing thier elders, like carrots?
there could be some element, among them which supporting them because or fear, greed but thats not all?

You are confused....
If you think one teibe taking out their tribal vendetta against another by posing as ''Qabaili lashkar'' has anything to do with Pakistani patriotism, you are wrong.

This war isnt going anywhere because we are still fighting ''na maloom afraad'' and specracularly fail to positively identify our enemy.

There is no place for medeival tribal mentality in 2013, and that is at the root of the problem and has to be dealt with as a problem.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

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dont live in the past, if you want be alive today,s world which can bring the terrorists down while doing carpet bommbings on torabora by an B52s , after which those dogs ran back to pakistan for help, & made thier dam base camps in pakistani pushtun areas?
but when PAKARMY stopped them going back , & try to put thier dirty nose in others sh..it , they trun back & started to attack PAKARMY, & its pushtun & non pushtun citizens, just because they can make living out of this bloody bussiness?
well know nt any more, come on lets clean them from dir & from the face of world, i mean the TTp dags right?

Offtopic reported !

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

You are confused....
If you think one teibe taking out their tribal vendetta against another by posing as ''Qabaili lashkar'' has anything to do with Pakistani patriotism, you are wrong.

This war isnt going anywhere because we are still fighting ''na maloom afraad'' and specracularly fail to positively identify our enemy.

There is no place for medeival tribal mentality in 2013, and that is at the root of the problem and has to be dealt with as a problem.

Its military establishment who used tribal warriors as cannon fodder in 1948 kashmir war, blame jinnah for relying on tribals instead of sending army to kashmir. Blame Baba-e-qaum for encouraging use of uncontitutional tribal lashkars.
It was military establishment who opened thousands of madrassas in pashtun belt during 80s and urged them to fight in afghanistan as mujahideen. Your ISI turned FATA into traininp ground for afghan mujahideen with the help of CIA money. Your ISI and CIA brought thousands of foriegn fighters into this region.
It was ISI which supported rise of Afghan taliban , gave them weapons and sent thousands of students from madrassas of fazlur rehman and sami ul haq to help afghan taliban.
Your ISI still supports quetta shura and haqqani network.

 

[Patriots]

Its military establishment who used tribal warriors as cannon fodder in 1948 kashmir war, blame jinnah for relying on tribals instead of sending army to kashmir. Blame Baba-e-qaum for encouraging use of uncontitutional tribal lashkars.
It was military establishment who opened thousands of madrassas in pashtun belt during 80s and urged them to fight in afghanistan as mujahideen. Your ISI turned FATA into traininp ground for afghan mujahideen with the help of CIA money. Your ISI and CIA brought thousands of foriegn fighters into this region.
It was ISI which supported rise of Afghan taliban , gave them weapons and sent thousands of students from madrassas of fazlur rehman and sami ul haq to help afghan taliban.
Your ISI still supports quetta shura and haqqani network.

This was Zia Ul Haq's biggest blunder ..........

 

[SQ8]

Its military establishment who used tribal warriors as cannon fodder in 1948 kashmir war, blame jinnah for relying on tribals instead of sending army to kashmir. Blame Baba-e-qaum for encouraging use of uncontitutional tribal lashkars.
It was military establishment who opened thousands of madrassas in pashtun belt during 80s and urged them to fight in afghanistan as mujahideen. Your ISI turned FATA into traininp ground for afghan mujahideen with the help of CIA money. Your ISI and CIA brought thousands of foriegn fighters into this region.
It was ISI which supported rise of Afghan taliban , gave them weapons and sent thousands of students from madrassas of fazlur rehman and sami ul haq to help afghan taliban.
Your ISI still supports quetta shura and haqqani network.

Sounds less anti-establishment and more Anti-Pakistan talk. And most of it is simply connecting events to prove innocence of tribal in all of these acts. As if the proud tribals you talk of elsewhere simply bowed down and jumped into the proverbial well like slaves just at the pointing of a finger??

If it is our ISI and not yours, I suggest you register yourself as an alien in Pakistan and renounce your nationality. Since at the end of the day it is a state tool , of the state of Pakistan which is still (in theory) answerable to the people of Pakistan and is their "property".

This was Zia Ul Haq's biggest blunder ..........

Among many, however.. there was no way those madressas would have thrived unless conditions existed previously(poverty, lack of education etc.) that provided the batter to make this foul bread that now haunts this country.

 

[batmannow]

Sounds less anti-establishment and more Anti-Pakistan talk. And most of it is simply connecting events to prove innocence of tribal in all of these acts. As if the proud tribals you talk of elsewhere simply bowed down and jumped into the proverbial well like slaves just at the pointing of a finger??

If it is our ISI and not yours, I suggest you register yourself as an alien in Pakistan and renounce your nationality. Since at the end of the day it is a state tool , of the state of Pakistan which is still (in theory) answerable to the people of Pakistan and is their "property".



Among many, however.. there was no way those madressas would have thrived unless conditions existed previously(poverty, lack of education etc.) that provided the batter to make this foul bread that now haunts this country.

GEOO OSCAR! sir?
right on time like allways!
special thanks!

 

[batmannow]

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keep up & doin that?
if i m gettin pink for my country,s dam intersts thn be it be?
but dir is going to see a total wash out of terrorists, soon how you feel, i mean dogs TTp dying without a hint of water, for me thats etter than wafching a virgin getting naked very frist time, lets see how you feel, with all of your racism , brutality inside you?
or are you going to prove yourself. a real male or a pushtun by blowing yourself in, the toilets of your own home
come on just do that !
if you are enough man, or a pushtun , or even a mullaha sympathizer?
well angels started working on yourdam profile already, that s the good news is?
live like a coward, or die like a fool, choice is yours?

 

[batmannow]

You are confused....
If you think one teibe taking out their tribal vendetta against another by posing as ''Qabaili lashkar'' has anything to do with Pakistani patriotism, you are wrong.

This war isnt going anywhere because we are still fighting ''na maloom afraad'' and specracularly fail to positively identify our enemy.

There is no place for medeival tribal mentality in 2013, and that is at the root of the problem and has to be dealt with as a problem.

as one them & bieng of part of them , yes gona do that, but rivlries, doent end like that in that rootin place?
was there done that still have some what special conections, bt dont ask me? thankss

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no it wasnt if you are facing mighty russian soviets!

 

[Informant]

This pak-one dude sounds like a jilted afghani, hope you get droned. Seriously.