Emotional jabber doesn't add value to the topic. The fact remains that Kashmir is disputed between India and Pakistan, each for their own reasons. I seriously don't believe that Pakistan is quibbling over Kashmir for the interests of the people of Kashmir. Clearly there is economical and geo-strategical value for Pakistan to get Kashmir. The same applies to India. All this nonsense about jugular vein of Pakistan and integral part of India is political rhetoric which I don't buy even if discounted. Unless a major calamity of huge proportions destroys the Indian economy and results in the Indian armed forces becoming weak and hopeless (which isn't going to happen for 100s of years), then all Pakistanis can do is scream foul everytime there are some claims about the people of Kashmir being bullied by the Indian establishment or the Indian people. What then are tangible, practical and mutually acceptable suggestions pertaining to the Kashmir conflict ?