Kashmir truck attack victim, targetted over beef, dies, violence erupts in Kashmir''

[Styx]

Edit: I have deleted my post. it was insensitive of me to ridicule an entire community. Hope u delete ur reply too

I'm not deleting anything, why are people cheering this savagery ?

Lol,who told you that Mr.Mohandas Gandhi is being revered by millions!!The present Indian generation has got a negative view of this man because of his "Muslim Appeasement" politics which resulted in the partition of our nation!!

so you'd prefer a 35% "minority" over how it is today ?

 

[ranjeet]

I fail to see anything heroic about a mob attacking two young men driving a truck who had nothing to do with what had got the mob angry. Apart from being from the Vale.

There is nothing heroic about it, culprits must be brought to books. It's just I believe people in J&K have decided that they won't be cowed down anymore. People when frustrated do take law in their own hands. Kashmiri Pandits migrated from the valley under threat leaving behind their ancestral properties and then being made to put up with cow slaughter on the streets of the valley why? Is this what Secularism is all about?

 

[Mike_Brando]

Speak for yourself. And look up your facts first. It was not Gandhi who was responsible for the partition. He opposed it.

I really detest cheap remarks made for the sake of creating a sensation, without any foundation for it.

Sir,with due respect i must inform you that i am quite well informed of Mr.Gandhi's work and his role in the partition of India and i am speaking on behalf of all those compatriots of my generation who share my views.I hope you do understand that ours is a democracy and hence we are free to express our opinions without breaking any law.

 

[ranjeet]

What happened to your no-trolling pledge? Just asking.

I did felt that I was being sucked back in that troll mode again but after that post I tried to calm down myself. I will edit/delete that post if it's too much.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Killing a animal is a right ? Lol Lol.
Say like: it's in your rituals.
Rituals and right are 2 different things.
Bdw killing any animal is / can be considered a crime.
Period

The correct position is that killing any animal in an unregulated manner can be considered a crime.

Second, individual states within the Indian Union have chosen to ban slaughter of one or the other animal. Both beef and pork are banned in the Punjab. There is no universal ban on beef, there is no universal ban on pork.

Third, there are religious prejudices surrounding the method of slaughter. while these exist everywhere, there are concentrations of population where these are more or less strongly felt.

Fourth, there are often very strong feelings in a state where slaughter of any specified animal is banned, when there is evidence or a demonstration of such animals being transported, quite obviously for transport in another state where the ban does not apply. From Uttarakhand to UP is a usual route; Bangladesh gets a lot of its cattle for slaughter this way.

 

[Mike_Brando]

I'm not deleting anything, why are people cheering this savagery ?


so you'd prefer a 35% "minority" over how it is today ?

I am only saying that we could have been a single country today without all these conflicts and unnecessary bloodshed that took place in the last 7 decades due to this meaningless partition

 

[Joe Shearer]

Sir,with due respect i must inform you that i am quite well informed of Mr.Gandhi's work and his role in the partition of India and i am speaking on behalf of all those compatriots of my generation who share my views.I hope you do understand that ours is a democracy and hence we are free to express our opinions without breaking any law.

No law was broken, either by your saying what you did, or by my describing your action the way I did.

I am only saying that we could have been a single country today without all these conflicts and unnecessary bloodshed that took place in the last 7 decades due to this meaningless partition

Meaningless is your description.

It will go down very badly with an audience which sees its own community being harrassed daily in a number of ways.

I did felt that I was being sucked back in that troll mode again but after that post I tried to calm down myself. I will edit/delete that post if it's too much.

No, no, that is your personal decision, and I will not come into it.

Correction muslims of the subcontinent are Pakistanis, no matter where they are. This is the only land that will give you sanctuary from the mob in India or anywhere else. Thats why my parents migrated. Am proud of that decision. Azad Deccan Council claims that there is nothing such as an Indian muslims. We are all Pakistani or independent. Independent Kashmir, Lucknow and Hyderabad. More to follow as we realize how this country (India) has kept us weak.

Maybe I speak more aggressively when provoked but hey I am emotional about it. Lucknow is my hometown as is Hydz and Delhi since I have people there and many of us had to run off from there. Pakistan is my country and our only hope. Indian muslims need to ask themselves the question where they will go if the Indians massacre them.

Please stop talking utter nonsense.

 

[Styx]

I am only saying that we could have been a single country today without all these conflicts and unnecessary bloodshed that took place in the last 7 decades due to this meaningless partition

imagine 35% for a sec.. bhai, partition was good, look at the middle east burn, and the blow over is obvious in Pakistan with all their Sunni supremacist groups like sipah-e-sahaba etc, good thing we don't have any of that bs here

 

[Joe Shearer]

Deep inside your wretched heart you strive to achieve the acceptance of the Western World like a two dollar escort, whose sole objective of living is to spit shine shoes in front of your superiors. Currently the expectation of investment looks only good on paper and with these human rights violations occurring in your country, they would think twice about relocating there businesses to an uncivilized country. Hafiz Saeed will have special surprise for you soon and the terror of despair will return to Kashmiri Pandits.

I love to read articles on the destruction of India and these events because it means the cycle of hatred will continue and families will demand revenge and India suffers.

Now I know what a two-dollar escort does.

 

[Mike_Brando]

Meaningless is your description.

It will go down very badly with an audience which sees its own community being harrassed daily in a number of ways.

Sir,
With due respect i would like to point out the fact that it was Mr.J.L.Nehru who was personally responsible for this partition.Had he listened to Mr.Jinnah and accepted his proposals India would have been an united country today extending from the Khyber Pass to the Arakan mountain ranges.I blame Mr.Gandhi for his silent support in favor of Mr.Nehru whose only ambition was to be the P.M. of the soon to be independent country of India.Mr.Gandhi could have easily prevented this partition if he had pressurized Mr.Nehru to accept at least some of the demands put forward by Mr.Jinnah!!

 

[Joe Shearer]

The views presented here by even senior Indian members prove that we muslims made a mistake staying in India. My parents and grandparents and even those who stayed should have migrated straight away in 1947 and end this mess once and for all. But they stayed believing in the goodwill of the Hindus even if they ideologically believed in the message of Pakistan. They did still believe in secularism and Ansaris are known for this quality. We were badly betrayed.

When people justify a simple thing like killings over cow slaughter an animal made and meant to be eaten and supposed to be eaten by muslims then we know how far the intolerance goes. People aare justifying this cruelty. Bhai I eat beef or pork. Why does it offend a Hindu or a Muslim, is anyone shoving the beef in his mouth?

This is an dumb thing to debate, clearly freedom of thought and freedom of will does not reign supreme in a united India. Its more than time to decide our own destiny, our own future, as independent separate muslims. Pakistan was made for us.


I thought you had written vegetarian troll. lol.

Its clear though that to remain in Indian occupied regions muslims will have to give up some aspects of their faith. That is their message. In reality such a thing is called oppression.

Do you think you can write any rubbish and get away with it? It is ironic that just a while ago, I was reading a moderator's fervent plea to all to stop trolling. It seems he should have started with you.

I am thoroughly ashamed to see your posts.

 

[ranjeet]

No, no, that is your personal decision, and I will not come into it.

Thank you.

 

[Mike_Brando]

imagine 35% for a sec.. bhai, partition was good, look at the middle east burn, and the blow over is obvious in Pakistan with all their Sunni supremacist groups like sipah-e-sahaba etc, good thing we don't have any of that bs here

Come on bro,we still have over 180 million Indian Muslims among us who are as much patriots as we are if not more.I seriously don't believe in breaking a nation on the basis of religion when its an open fact that both of our ancestos had lived peacefully with each other for the last 800 years!!

 

[Joe Shearer]

Sir,
With due respect i would like to point out the fact that it was Mr.J.L.Nehru who was personally responsible for this partition.Had he listened to Mr.Jinnah and accepted his proposals India would have been an united country today extending from the Khyber Pass to the Arakan mountain ranges.I blame Mr.Gandhi for his silent support in favor of Mr.Nehru whose only ambition was to be the P.M. of the soon to be independent country of India.Mr.Gandhi could have easily prevented this partition if he had pressurized Mr.Nehru to accept at least some of the demands put forward by Mr.Jinnah!!

Please make up your mind; at the moment, you are a loose cannon, blaming Gandhi for partition in one post, Nehru (personally - what a laugh!) in another post.

It is true that Nehru's resiling from his agreement to the Cabinet Mission proposals - not to Jinnah's proposals - was the immediate cause for partition. It is not true that Gandhi silently supported it. It is highly unlikely that Gandhi could have prevented this, and it was not a question of Gandhi pressurising Nehru "to accept at least some of the demands put forward by Mr. Jinnah!!!" but a question of deciding what line the delegates from the two Muslim-majority blocs to the constituent assembly could take.

I really wish that commentators on these issues would take the trouble of learning the facts before holding forth like experts.

 

[Mike_Brando]

Good to know to u r comparing Ghandhi ji with convicted criminal..stop using u r currency note picture of Ghandhi ji on them..

I can clearly see how much you revere Mr.Gandhi when you can't even type his proper surname.So much for respect!!Who are you trying to fool mate!