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Kashmir Students vs Indian Students

We do have the sympathy for the sufferers and we are trying our best to keep the situation under control :coffee:



I condemn every human who does these kind of acts.

however i will give them some benefit of doubt as i have personally seen the Army operations in the valley

imagine a terrorist hiding in a village and soldiers wants to do a search operation. but the ladies are not allowing you to do so . . what will you do ? you'll let those terrorist escape because some ladies are standing in the middle ?:coffee:



they would have been loved to cheer for Pakistan . . not India :coffee:



Even kashmiris have an autonomous government, police. they have reservations in government jobs, education.

so your point is ? :coffee:



i'm sorry for the sedition charges and expulsion . . however i expect those students to behave maturely in the public places.

freedom of speech doesn't mean i can hurt someone else's feelings.

do not forget we are still a conservative society with a lot of things to be improved:coffee:

Regards.
Yeh nahi badalte, laaton ke bhoot baaton se nahin maante, from my personal experience with these kashmiris is say Indian Army does the right thing, if terrorists and it's sympathisers are found kick them hard.They can forget about kashmir as we won't be giving an inch to them.Even after so much appeasement and sops if they want to die then let them die for it, will be target practice. They can go to any country they prefer but the land will always be India's.You don't do conservative surgery with cancer you remove the whole part and a good bit of good part too to contain the spread of cancer.
 
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No one is forcing them to be Indian. They are there by choice.. No one stops them to leave if they want to. Their land is theirs to sell. If they dont want to live in India, they can sell their belongings to anyone else and relocate to another country. Its not like partition that they have to leave with just the clothes on their backs.. Please understand that when you say land belongs to Kashmiris, its only that land which is owned by them that belongs to them.. And they have full rights to sell it and move to Pakistan. They can also chose to retain ownership of that land and earn rental from it while they go and live in their pyara Pakistan.. Wonder why they dont move if they dont want to live in India.. Guess they do read what's going on in Pakistan and are a little more scared of living there than they are in India.

well so u mean to say that all indians should have moved to someother place instead of getting their freedom from Britishers?? .. they are just doing what we did .. getting azadi ... its just when u were doing it then it was right but when they are doing it they are wrong .. bro u u r such a hypocrate? either ur are wrong or ur gand parents were ...
 
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how are they misguided by our propoganda .. u killed 1000's of then, rapped their women and killed their childern.. forcing them to be indians .. its ur brutality which lead them to love pakistan ..
no they love India
 
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well so u mean to say that all indians should have moved to someother place instead of getting their freedom from Britishers?? .. they are just doing what we did .. getting azadi ... its just when u were doing it then it was right but when they are doing it they are wrong .. bro u u r such a hypocrate? either ur are wrong or ur gand parents were ...

Hey .. You gave me a pretty awesome Idea.. I should also try to get Aazadi from India and declare my home and the surrounding land (which i dont own, but hey, why not claim it..) as my country.. As a matter of fact, since my family is originally from Pakistani Punjab, I can probably claim that as well as my own and treat that like the western part of my country.. Like erst while East Pakistan..

Anyone knows how to register a new country in United Nations? Is there a form?? Karanistan and West Karanistan.. :D
 
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well so u mean to say that all indians should have moved to someother place instead of getting their freedom from Britishers?? .. they are just doing what we did .. getting azadi ... its just when u were doing it then it was right but when they are doing it they are wrong .. bro u u r such a hypocrate? either ur are wrong or ur gand parents were ...
exactly this is what I was about to say. I mean so all that struggle of freedom from the british was meanless that people of an area should sell their lands and businesses and leave their own area. WHY? If someone forcefully enter my house and tell me to empty it and leave my own house NAHHHH. Kashmir a Muslim Majority area was given the right to join Pakistan but that right was taken from them forcefully. All the UN resolutions for Kashmir tells about it.

This is what I see Kashmiris struggle as
Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai
Dekhna hai zor kitna baazu-e-qaatil mein hai

aye watan Karta nahin kyun doosra kuch baat-cheet
Dekhta hun main jise woh chup teri mehfil mein hai
Aye shaheed-e-mulk-o-millat main tere oopar nisaar
Ab teri himmat ka charcha ghair ki mehfil mein hai
Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai

Waqt aanay dey bata denge tujhe aye aasman
Hum abhi se kya batayen kya hamare dil mein hai
Khainch kar layee hai sab ko qatl hone ki ummeed
Aashiqon ka aaj jumghat koocha-e-qaatil mein hai
Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai

Hai liye hathiyaar dushman taak mein baitha udhar
Aur hum taiyyaar hain seena liye apna idhar
Khoon se khelenge holi gar vatan muskhil mein hai
Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai

Haath jin mein ho junoon katt te nahi talvaar se
Sar jo uth jaate hain voh jhukte nahi lalkaar se
Aur bhadkega jo shola-sa humaare dil mein hai
Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai

Hum to ghar se nikle hi the baandhkar sar pe kafan
Jaan hatheli par liye lo barh chale hain ye qadam
Zindagi to apni mehmaan maut ki mehfil mein hai
Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai

Yuun khadaa maqtal mein qaatil kah rahaa hai baar baar
Kya tamannaa-e-shahaadat bhi kisee ke dil mein hai
Dil mein tuufaanon ki toli aur nason mein inqilaab
Hosh dushman ke udaa denge humein roko na aaj
Duur reh paaye jo humse dam kahaan manzil mein hai

Wo jism bhi kya jism hai jismein na ho khoon-e-junoon
Toofaanon se kya lade jo kashti-e-saahil mein hai

Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai.
Dekhna hai zor kitna baazuay qaatil mein hai.
 
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Hey .. You gave me a pretty awesome Idea.. I should also try to get Aazadi from India and declare my home and the surrounding land (which i dont own, but hey, why not claim it..) as my country.. As a matter of fact, since my family is originally from Pakistani Punjab, I can probably claim that as well as my own and treat that like the western part of my country.. Like erst while East Pakistan..

Anyone knows how to register a new country in United Nations? Is there a form?? Karanistan and West Karanistan.. :D

well when the logics fails u can always use sarcasm ...
 
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exactly this is what I was about to say. I mean so all that struggle of freedom from the british was meanless that people of an area should sell their lands and businesses and leave their own area. WHY? If someone forcefully enter my house and tell me to empty it and leave my own house NAHHHH. Kashmir a Muslim Majority area was given the right to join Pakistan but that right was taken from them forcefully. All the UN resolutions for Kashmir tells about it.

Princely states were outside the scope of religion based divisions.. uff..history books in Pakistan seems to be so warped out.. :)




This is what I see Kashmiris struggle as
Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai
Dekhna hai zor kitna baazu-e-qaatil mein hai


aye watan Karta nahin kyun doosra kuch baat-cheet
Dekhta hun main jise woh chup teri mehfil mein hai
Aye shaheed-e-mulk-o-millat main tere oopar nisaar
Ab teri himmat ka charcha ghair ki mehfil mein hai
Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai


Waqt aanay dey bata denge tujhe aye aasman
Hum abhi se kya batayen kya hamare dil mein hai
Khainch kar layee hai sab ko qatl hone ki ummeed
Aashiqon ka aaj jumghat koocha-e-qaatil mein hai
Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai


Hai liye hathiyaar dushman taak mein baitha udhar
Aur hum taiyyaar hain seena liye apna idhar
Khoon se khelenge holi gar vatan muskhil mein hai
Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai


Haath jin mein ho junoon katt te nahi talvaar se
Sar jo uth jaate hain voh jhukte nahi lalkaar se
Aur bhadkega jo shola-sa humaare dil mein hai
Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai


Hum to ghar se nikle hi the baandhkar sar pe kafan
Jaan hatheli par liye lo barh chale hain ye qadam
Zindagi to apni mehmaan maut ki mehfil mein hai
Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai


Yuun khadaa maqtal mein qaatil kah rahaa hai baar baar
Kya tamannaa-e-shahaadat bhi kisee ke dil mein hai
Dil mein tuufaanon ki toli aur nason mein inqilaab
Hosh dushman ke udaa denge humein roko na aaj
Duur reh paaye jo humse dam kahaan manzil mein hai


Wo jism bhi kya jism hai jismein na ho khoon-e-junoon
Toofaanon se kya lade jo kashti-e-saahil mein hai


Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamaare dil mein hai.
Dekhna hai zor kitna baazuay qaatil mein hai.

AWESOME POEM BY RAM PRASAD BISMIL
 
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