Kashmir remark sparks trade war between India and Malaysia: palm oil businesses suffer

[Rusty]

Where does Hindutva logic come into this discussion donkey ? Your donkey brains can't think beyond Hindutva on any issue. You know nothing about me or who i vote for so don't use your donkey brains for a while.

Going back to your original point where you mentioned that there are so many Indians in Malaysia that there cannot be any restriction on imports in Malaysian goods. The fact that the vast majority are Malaysian born for a long time and only few are recent immigrants whos that there is no such cause for worry. My initial point still stands. "Most" or "all", these are trivial details. The impact is the same.

man... come up with some better insults. Donkey isn't even that clever or mean. You say donkey, I'll just say monkey.

And Hindutva is India, any topic about India is never complete without mentioning Hindutva.
Also, it doesn't matter who or what you did, Hindutva scum here constantly remind us that India is a Hindu state with Hindutva Ideology.


And again, back to the point. Majority of "Indians" are decedents of Tamils, However, just like in the gulf countries, Hindus love Muslim money and will bend to any degree to get it. There is a sizable first generation Indian invasion of Malaysia chasing Muslim money.

Where does Hindutva logic come into this discussion donkey ? Your donkey brains can't think beyond Hindutva on any issue. You know nothing about me or who i vote for so don't use your donkey brains for a while.

Going back to your original point where you mentioned that there are so many Indians in Malaysia that there cannot be any restriction on imports in Malaysian goods. The fact that the vast majority are Malaysian born for a long time and only few are recent immigrants shows that there is no such cause for worry. My initial point still stands. "Most" or "all", these are trivial details. The impact is the same.



Language is the one of the first signs of civilisation or the lack of it and yours gives away your level of civilisation right away.

Monkeys can't tell the difference between the Queens English and "Indian" English, so what does it matter?

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

man... come up with some better insults. Donkey isn't even that clever or mean. You say donkey, I'll just say monkey.

And Hindutva is India, any topic about India is never complete without mentioning Hindutva.
Also, it doesn't matter who or what you did, Hindutva scum here constantly remind us that India is a Hindu state with Hindutva Ideology.


And again, back to the point. Majority of "Indians" are decedents of Tamils, However, just like in the gulf countries, Hindus love Muslim money and will bend to any degree to get it. There is a sizable first generation Indian invasion of Malaysia chasing Muslim money.



Monkeys can't tell the difference between the Queens English and "Indian" English, so what does it matter?

Ignoring the rest of your BS.

Just to make one thing clear, even in the last election, at the peak of BJPs popularity, 63% of Indian voters did not vote for the BJP. Also, many BJP voters vote for them for reasons other than their Hindutva agenda, such as their economic policies which are considered more free and less restrictive than Congress. This explanation is not for you but for those other reasonable people reading such conversations.

In any case how does a citizen of "Islamic" republic of Pakistan have a right to insult Hindutvadis ? They want to turn India into what you already are. So you have no right to insult them.

 

[Rusty]

Ignoring the rest of your BS.

Just to make one thing clear, even in the last election, at the peak of BJPs popularity, 63% of Indian voters did not vote for the BJP. Also, many BJP voters vote for them for reasons other than their Hindutva agenda, such as their economic policies which are considered more free and less restrictive than Congress. This explanation is not for you but for those other reasonable people reading such conversations.

In any case how does a citizen of "Islamic" republic of Pakistan have a right to insult Hindutvadis ? They want to turn India into what you already are. So you have no right to insult them.

No reasonable nation or people vote for a party whose expressed platform is genocide. Does not matter the reason.
That is the reason you people are not worthy to be treated with respect.

And you are right, Hindutva India is no match for Pakistan, where Muslims fill up a temple to protect it
https://www.trtworld.com/asia/pakistan-arrests-three-over-attack-on-hindu-temple-homes-29836


Where, despite being broke, we spend so much money for the benefit of Sikhs
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...sahib-says-punjab-cm/articleshow/71421348.cms

Where we sack ministers of the ruling party for making anti Hindu comments.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...inister-for-anti-hindu-comments-idUSKCN1QM1RK

Hindutva India does not hold a candle to us and can only wish it became like Pakistan.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

India likely to restrict imports of palm oil, other goods from Malaysia - sources
Aftab Ahmed and Rajendra Jadhav

FILE PHOTO: Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad addresses the 74th session of the United Nations General Assembly at U.N. headquarters in New York City, New York, U.S., September 27, 2019.
REUTERS/EDUARDO MUNOZ

NEW DELHI/MUMBAI (Reuters) - India is considering restricting imports of some products from Malaysia including palm oil, according to government and industry sources, in reaction to the Southeast Asian country's leader criticizing New Delhi for its actions in Kashmir.

India is looking for ways to limit palm oil imports and may place restrictions on other goods from the country, said a government source and an industry source who participated in discussions led by the Ministry of Commerce and Industry on the planned restrictions.

The sources asked not to be named as the proposal was still under discussion.

India's government was angered after Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said last month at the United Nations that India had "invaded and occupied" Jammu and Kashmir and asked New Delhi to work with Pakistan to resolve the issue.

Muslim-majority Kashmir is divided between India and Pakistan, which both claim it in full and have twice gone to war over the territory. India revoked the special constitutional status of its portion of Kashmir in August, angering Pakistan.

The government wants to send a strong signal of its displeasure to Malaysian authorities, the sources said.

India, the world's biggest importer of edible oils, is planning to substitute Malaysian palm oil with supplies of edible oils from countries such as Indonesia, Argentina and Ukraine, said the sources.

Palm oil accounts for nearly two-thirds of India's total edible oil imports. India buys more than 9 million tonnes of palm oil annually, mainly from Indonesia and Malaysia.

In the first nine months of 2019 India was the biggest buyer of Malaysian palm oil, taking 3.9 million tonnes, according to data compiled by the Malaysian Palm Oil Board.

ALTERNATIVE SELLERS

Malaysia's prime minister on Friday said he had not received "anything official" from India, after Reuters first reported that India was mulling restricting imports of Malaysian palm oil and other products.

The news prompted Malaysian palm oil futures to snap five days of gains to end lower on Friday evening.

The benchmark palm oil contract for December delivery on the Bursa Malaysia Derivatives Exchange that had earlier been trading up on the day, fell 0.9% to close at 2,185 ringgit ($522.23) per tonne.

A Mumbai-based refiner said it would not create a shortage of edible oils in India if buyers there stopped importing palm oil from Malaysia.

"Indonesia is eager to sell more and more palm oil to India," the refiner said, adding that India could also increase imports of soyoil from Argentina and sunflower oil from Ukraine to offset any drop in Malaysian palm oil shipments.

Indonesia wants New Delhi to increase palm oil purchases and wants to buy sugar from India in exchange.

Higher Indian imports had helped Malaysia reduce stockpiles in 2019, but stocks could rise again and prices could come under pressure if India curtails or stops imports, said a Mumbai-based dealer with a global trading firm.

India's government is also planning some restrictions on imports from Turkey, one of the government sources said, as Ankara has issued repeated statements on Kashmir, an issue that India considers an internal matter.

In addition to tensions around Kashmir, there has also been friction between India and Malaysia over Islamic preacher Zakir Naik, whom Indian authorities want extradited from Malaysia.

In 2016, an Indian counterterrorism agency accused Naik of promoting hate speech.

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What if malaysia deport all indians from malaysia?

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

What if malaysia deport all indians from malaysia?

Read post #11

 

[Trango Towers]

There is also an informal campaign on social media by some people urging Indian tourists to avoid malaysia in ther holiday plans

Malaysia would be better without dirty Indians

 

[Lincoln]

When there are alternate markets for the same goods there is no problem whatsoever. Say Indonesia is also largest exporters of palmoil. Malaysia's loss is Indonesia's gain. It's not about economy either, it's about sending a message. That's the whole point of the trade war.


It's like saying BDS campaign is useless as people would buy intel chips anyway. If one person decides against, that in itself means something.


Not 40% maybe 90% would support removal of article 370. Let the state come down to our level, no special privileges just be like Maharashtra, or Kerala. Another Indian state that don't need special economic package.

There's a reason India imports from Malaysia this item. Like I said, no one is being merciful on anyone, koi ehsaan nahi karahai ho.

Agr puray shahair sai ek specific dukaan sai ek zaroori item laitai ho usually tou there's a reason for that.

Cheaper, easier logistics, feasibility, orr esai boht sai factors hotai hein.

 

[Ritual]

so they are invaders then?

By your Hindutva logic they should leave as that is not their homeland.
Their homelands is shitting in the holy Ganga


And I have personally met many many first generation Indians in Malaysia so you are not only stupid but wrong.

They should do a Malaysian NRC to weed out all the Indian overstayers, not only in Malaysia but Singapore has a major problem.

Bear in mind that many people they term ‘Bengali invaders’ in North East India have lived there for centuries, so it is typical Indian hypocrisy yet again.

 

[Areesh]

Modi jee Pakistan ko isolate karna tha

Aap to India ko isolate karwa rahai ho

 

[Kaniska]

Likely not.

People, whenever they get upset about something, they suggest that imports be cancelled - remember whenever China veto'd in UNSC.

But the people forget that the imports are not a mercy bestowed by them on other countries. It is a necessity.

You restrict imports and you will be forced to get it from elsewhere for a much higher price, that hurts the economy.

As for the informal campaign; people will be people, that is emotional creatures. Most of the people in this campaign don't even travel, I can tell you that.



If you judge that by comments then I pity you. If I start drawing demographics based on comments from TOI then everyone in India is better left dead.

Survey shows at least 40% support for his party. That's more in % than that of BJP in India. Lastly, none of his critics criticised him for his Kashmir stance and foreign policy, I think that speaks a lot.

Enjoy.


Also, lmao at this "tourist campaign," south east Asians probably don't contribute to even 1% of world tourism income.

No...there is another diplomatic angle to this episode..India is one of the 3 largest importer of Palm oil..Indonesia contribute 30% and Malaysia constitute around 50% of Indian import...Due to some treaty Malaysia gets 5% tariff discount which is not given to Indonesia...Now on last wee of September, India already withdrew the tariff concession to Malysia...So it is not like India is just thinking about it rather they have silently withdrawn concession from Malaysia which will eventually benifit Indonesia who is aggressively pursuing to increase their export to India

There's a reason India imports from Malaysia this item. Like I said, no one is being merciful on anyone, koi ehsaan nahi karahai ho.

Agr puray shahair sai ek specific dukaan sai ek zaroori item laitai ho usually tou there's a reason for that.

Cheaper, easier logistics, feasibility, orr esai boht sai factors hotai hein.

Palm oil is not simillar to any technology transfer??? Just in the PDF, you can just say anything without understanding any subject properly...
Indonesia, Brazil and Argentin is a rival to Malaysia for palm export..India can swich some amount to Brazil or Indonesia

 

[Imran Khan]

There is also an informal campaign on social media by some people urging Indian tourists to avoid malaysia in ther holiday plans

First india take back lakhs of indian workers form malysia

 

[Kaniska]

First india take back lakhs of indian workers form malysia

Why do not you ask Malaysia to send them back?

 

[maximuswarrior]

It would be unfortunate if this happens.

India shouldn't take such actions against Malaysia. Unlike China and Turkey, Malaysia has never had an anti India policy on Kashmir. They were always neutral. It is only this Mahathir fellow who is firstly only an interim PM and secondly 94 years old who has taken such a stand against india. The public of Malaysia don't like him either and are waiting for him to step down from PM's post and hand it over to his successor which will happen in 2020 or 2021.

Check out the public comments on the below article by common Malaysians to see what I am saying.

https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/495473

Most Malaysians don't like him and he will go in another year or two if he doesn't drop dead before that.

We must not take actions against Malaysia which will hurt our age old relations in the long run because of one senile old man who will not be around for long anyway.

RSS cavemen are now going to threaten a nation where their countrymen go for a living LOL

These RSS beggars are threatening Turkey, Malaysia and others who don't support Indian butchering and rape in occupied Kashmir. What a disgusting rape nation.

 

[Ali_Baba]

There are 3 countries supporting Pakistan in the FATF listing : China, Turkey and Malysia and Pakistan needs the support of 3 members to stop being pushed into the FATF blacklist. India is after 2 of those 3 to get them to change their vote and so that they can flush Pakistans economy down the toilet. The PM of Malysia is old and his time in office, is limited to 2020/21 ii think, so his support will ultimately be timebound. India is cancelling ship orders with Turkey to get Turkey to stop supporting Pakistan in the FATF.

Here are the countries of FATF. It is quite sad to see the Gulf Cooperation Council/Members not supporting Pakistan out of this list or even Saudia Arabia(how shameful is that !!!).

Argentina
Australia
Austria
Belgium
Brazil
Canada
China
Denmark
European Commission
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Gulf Cooperation Council (comprises Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and United Arab Emirates)
Hong Kong, China (originally joined under the designation Hong Kong in 1991)
Iceland
India
Ireland
Israel
Italy
Japan
South Korea
Kingdom of the Netherlands (comprises Netherlands, Aruba, Curacao and Sint Maarten)
Luxembourg
Malaysia
Mexico
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
Russian Federation
Saudi Arabia[21]
Singapore
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States

 

[Lincoln]

No...there is another diplomatic angle to this episode..India is one of the 3 largest importer of Palm oil..Indonesia contribute 30% and Malaysia constitute around 50% of Indian import...Due to some treaty Malaysia gets 5% tariff discount which is not given to Indonesia...Now on last wee of September, India already withdrew the tariff concession to Malysia...So it is not like India is just thinking about it rather they have silently withdrawn concession from Malaysia which will eventually benifit Indonesia who is aggressively pursuing to increase their export to India



Palm oil is not simillar to any technology transfer??? Just in the PDF, you can just say anything without understanding any subject properly...
Indonesia, Brazil and Argentin is a rival to Malaysia for palm export..India can swich some amount to Brazil or Indonesia

Palm Oil is a commodity. It requires transport, it costs, and it's also about policies which surround control of export and import.

Tum kehna chahrahai ho kai Malaysia per India ehsaan karaha hai, and Malaysia is in return showing middle finger. Karlo jo karna hai, jistarah kai India couldn't do anything trade wise to China after every veto, they can't do shit to Malaysia. Go figure.