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His not india......his in kashmir:yahoo:

The same thing can be said about all the traitors that support india......KICK UM OUT OF KASHMIR.

As long as you are refering to Pakistani Kashmir, thats fine. J&K is on our side of the border. You can questiion the legitimacy of that border all you want, but unless you have the might to change the situation, its just talk..
 
As long as you are refering to Pakistani Kashmir, thats fine.

Am talking about the bit of kashmir that was invaded by the indian army and not the liberated bit that pakistanfreed.


J&K is on our side of the border. You can questiion the legitimacy of that border all you want, but unless you have the might to change the situation, its just talk..

Thats good to hear.......at least you have given up on the legal and moral argument after being proved wrong numerous times.
 
Am talking about the bit of kashmir that was invaded by the indian army and not the liberated bit that pakistanfreed.




Thats good to hear.......at least you have given up on the legal and moral argument after being proved wrong numerous times.

May be you learned your english in a different environment, but what part of my post makes you believe the bold drivel in your post above..
 
What was the phrase someone used earlier? Oh yeah - NAILED IT! There - the diplomatic parlance for "make love to yourself".


Ah, the vain hopes of a disillusioned few. And yet, India steadily steamrolls its behemoth economy towards progress while others holding on to straws barely manage to keep themselves afloat!

I wouldn't call the 60 odd countries who have out and out supported the plight of Kashmiris, "disillusioned". I would, however, call you not in touch with reality if you think that the Kashmiris will suddenly accept Indian occupation after 63 years of brutality and resistance.
 
Suppose there is a piece of land between your house and your neighbour. Both of you claim that piece of land as your own. So you go to a court of law to settle your case. However, it turns out, that the piece of land is within your boundary wall. While the case is being fiercely fought in the court, one fine day you notice that, that piece of land has termite infestation that needs to be dealt with. Now, tell me, can your neighbour tell you how to deal with that infestation, let alone prevent you from dealing with the infestation, on the grounds that the ownership hasn't been determined yet? Of course not.

This is basically the essence of legality of India's position - possession gives an inherent right and obligation to administer. (Recall that legal adage, 'possession is nine tenth of law'.)

Additionally, there is nothing in any UN resolution where the sovereignty of Kashmir has been questioned. On the contrary, the resolutions, unequivocally declare that it is Pakistan which is required to withdraw from the part of Kashmir that it now occupies. Not India. This is an implicit acceptance that it is Pakistan which is illegally occupying Kashmir. Not India. By virtue of IoA, the administration of Kashmir had been handed over to India in a full proof legal procedure, making administration of Kashmir prerogative to GoI.

That's how Kashmir is India's 'internal' issue.

The rest is the usual Pakistani drivel.

You've shot your own poorly concocted strawman argument in the head.

If the "court" is the UN, which is an institution that decides issues between countries, then the Kashmir issue as the "case" being decided is by definition internationalized and not an internal Indian issue.

Secondly, regardless of the conditions described in the UN resolutions, the conditions are to be fulfilled so that a plebiscite can take place. That also is a strong confirmation of how the world sees the Kashmir issue; an unfinished remnant of partition that will have to be decided. The current status quo is temporary and that is implicit in all UN resolutions.
 
So the indian leaders sending other peoples children to fight and get killed in kashmir is not "eating others lifes"?
The kashmiris did not invade india it was india that invaded kasgmir.

You thinking geelani is a kid just show how detached to you are from the entire kashmir freedom fight.

Nearly 99% of all killings ,rapes,destruction,mass demonstrations,international media coverage is focused on IOK.........Ooh no its the ISI...pak army....freedom fighters....anybody but the indians fault.:cheers:

You really dont have any knowledge of what is happening inside kashmir.. if you had atleast followed some news you would have not replied back this poorly...

India never invaded kashmir.. India rescued kashmir from Pakistan clutches... If india want to invade it would have done immediately after independence it would not have waited until a unrest happened.. Pakistan wanted to take over kashmir immediately after independence its diplomacy failed miserably and it started to plunder the people created unrest.. so we have to send our people to save those innocents... So logically our GoI never ate any one lives...

Geelani is very much a kid ... it is you who dont understand what is a real development is... You are also thinking on his the lines of geelani which will put every one in dark land... come out of it sirjee.. go round the world and see and then go to AJK.. if you need to know what is development

For your information .. there are no freedom fighters in JK.. those who are protesting are pawns of ISI or those people who got money from ISI/Army... We can see lot of people staying away from them and even showed your existence in some wars... what you have got to say for it??
 
Am talking about the bit of kashmir that was invaded by the indian army and not the liberated bit that pakistanfreed.

Thats good to hear.......at least you have given up on the legal and moral argument after being proved wrong numerous times.

Pakistan freed kashmir?? where it is buddy??? i cant see any such country in the map.. is it something created today??

You know what image is there in outside world for P0K??? Terrorist breeding area.. do you feel happy about it.. do you hear the same in JK... you hear violence in JK because mosquito breded in P0K is creating problem here.. if "All-out/mortien" gives some quick solution then JK will be really a heaven on earth...
 
Every indian should read this.

OK I read it and this is a statement by a Pakistani.. Pakistan has been making such statements for past 63 years. How different is this one and how will it help Pakistan?
 
OK I read it and this is a statement by a Pakistani.. Pakistan has been making such statements for past 63 years. How different is this one and how will it help Pakistan?

It will help the people of Kashmir by keeping their issue in the limelight at the premier international forum. The issue will remain a powder keg and a focus of international attendance and worry until it is resolved. This statement is not an isolated event, it is part of a diplomatic push that has won support from dozens and dozens of countries and international organizations.
 
"It is amazing that a country that continues to violate several UN resolutions, including those of the Security Council, and fails to fulfill the commitments made by its leaders, both to the international community as well as the people of Indian occupied Kashmir, has the audacity not only to claim democratic and pluralistic credentials but also aspires to become a permanent member of the Security Council," he said.



Nailed it!!

Buddy security council seat is not about human right violations or democracy if yes then China will be the first nation out of it.
These foolish comments will only degrade pakistans credibility :sniper:

Again This looks like a child crying while the whole world is not taking any notice. If pakistan wants to talk about IOK before that lets talk about the illegal occupation of kashmir done by pakistan and the region ceded to China :cheers:

To remind you nobody can stop the growing influence of India :smitten:
 
It will help the people of Kashmir by keeping their issue in the limelight at the premier international forum.

Sorry I disagree.. The statement is made by Pakistan to substatiate its claim of Kashmir and not to help the people of kashmir in any way.

The issue will remain a powder keg and a focus of international attendance and worry until it is resolved.

Sir It matters only to few who need some kind of assistance in Afghan WOT from you. Most don't even focus on this issue. Such passionate speeches can not help change the ground reality.

This statement is not an isolated event, it is part of a diplomatic push that has won support from dozens and dozens of countries and international organizations

Well, Diplomacy works when it is favourable to both the parties. Most countries while taking a diplomatic stance will gauge the benefits gained out of its actions. India has been diplomatically dealing with all the major nations on the topic. I don't see there has been any change in anybody's stance till date.
 

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