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It's quite obvious that Kashmiri's are angry and don't even want to be considered a part of india. They keep up these sort of violent protests and soon the Indian Govt. might start dumping them across the border to the land of honey and milk.

Cause it's a the valley that belongs to india, the people who don't want to live with india are free to go wherever they want, it's a matter of basic human right and choices, a person can live wherever he wants.

Kashmir belongs to the KASHMIRIS thats where they live in, their ancestors lived in, and where their roots began. Kashmir doesnt belong to any gujrati, rajasthani, tamil, bahari, and the rest of you.
 
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Kashmir belongs to the KASHMIRIS thats where they live in, their ancestors lived in, and where their roots began. Kashmir doesnt belong to any gujrati, rajasthani, tamil, bahari, and the rest of you dravadian bharatis who stick out like buffaloes when standing next to a Kashmiri.

How about the Kashmiri Pandits?... are they not Kashmiris? or you refuse to consider them as a part of the legacy of Kashmir because they were Hindus.

Stop splitting our country again on the basis of religion. I am sure the Kashmiris will get a lot more opportunities if they learn to live in India like people of all other religion have.
 
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oh, i'm sure it will be nobody denies that
by the way, aren't bandhs and protests allowed in hindustan? This pretty much negates this whole ''integral part of india'' broken-record rheotoric we keep hearing

thanks for clearing out, and refuting this misconception shared among some of your people
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Bandhs and protests are allowed in India as a part of the basic human rights to its citizens... but violent protests are dealt with force... lathi charge.. mass arrests... no one is allowed to destroy public property in the name of protests and bandhs.
If you want to make a point, you are welcome to do so as long as it is peaceful.
 
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How can indians deny that flag being held by proud Kashmiris is the Pakistani flag? this is proof of how some pathetic indians behave when it comes to the truth. too bad we Pakistanis, have to deal with this nonsense everyday on everything about Pakistan on the internet
 
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How can indians deny that flag being held by proud Kashmiris is the Pakistani flag? this is proof of how some pathetic indians behave when it comes to the truth. too bad we Pakistanis, have to deal with this nonsense everyday on everything about Pakistan on the internet

Nation Integrity will not & should not be compromised at any cost. We do have lot of political parties and different views on kashmir, they fight on every issue but there is only one consensus among all. Kashmir is an integral part of India and it would remain so. :tup:
 
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The South Asia Media Commission (SAMC) on Thursday urged the Government of India to lift the “undeclared ban on the media'' in Kashmir.

Taking a serious note of the violations of freedom of press and freedom of movement, the SAMC in a statement said: “We ask the Indian government to uphold democratic values in Kashmir, and order the security forces to facilitate journalists and let them perform their duties.''

Quoting from the online edition of the Srinagar-based English daily, Greater Kashmir, the SAMC said the curfew and restrictions forced local newspaper organisations and television networks to suspend their operations. The authorities have also banned local channels from airing news bulletins and ordered cable operators to take off the air all unregistered channels.

According to SAMC chairman Kumar Ketkar and secretary general Najam Sethi, the incidents of thrashing of journalists and tearing their curfew passes by men in uniform show how crippled the media is in Kashmir.

In a joint statement, they expressed solidarity with the Kashmiri people and journalists. Unrest should not be an excuse to restrict journalists from reporting, they said adding suspension of publications was a blow to media rights.


The Hindu : News / International : Lift ban on media in Kashmir: SAMC
 
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Jhoot .....I have seen hundreds of matchs where Pakistan played against other countries India always suppports other countries .

Even I recollect supporting Pakistan in the 1992 finals - I would rather see an Asian team win then. In our text-books Pakistan was never vilified but England was. Given the media and Pakistani antics after 1992 - even if Satan XI is playing against Pakistan, most people would support Satan XI
 
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In the throes of violence
By Kuldip Nayar
Friday, 17 Sep, 2010


I recently interacted with some Kashmiri young men in Delhi. There was no doubting their indignation and exasperation. The killings in the valley, almost 90 since June, were very much on my mind and I wanted to know what could be done.

“Why don’t you leave us?” one said. Another was more specific. “We want azadi.” What is the population of the valley? “Please include Muslim areas in Jammu and Ladakh.” This would come to about one crore or a little more. They said: “It is not a question of numbers but one of feelings. We just do not want to be part of India.” Yet another said, “We do not want to be part of Pakistan either.”

I vainly argued how a country with one crore population could sustain itself without any help from either India or Pakistan. “There is the entire Muslim world to help us,” they said.

I told them that this bothered me and that bringing religion into their protests showed that they wanted to establish another Muslim state on India’s border.

What would be the repercussions in India which was trying to stay above the waters of communalism and remain secular? Their reply: “We want azadi.”

I have not visited Kashmir for more than six months. Yet I have kept myself quite up to date by watching on television several incidents of stone-pelting, burning of government buildings and firing by security forces. (The Indian media has been covering the events in detail.)

It looks as if the whole valley has come on to the streets, the angry young men leading the mob. Maybe it is a particular group of people which is instigating them but whatever its number it is a determined lot. And it would be foolhardy not to take into account their anguish, particularly of those who have lost their dear ones in the firing.

New Delhi and Kashmir’s chief minister Omar Abdullah believe that anger could be assuaged if the Armed Forces Special Power Act (AFSPA), which gives extraordinary powers to the military in a disturbed area, is amended suitably or abolished.

The problem has been politicised and New Delhi has known it all along. That it should have been sorted out by this time goes without saying. The more a solution is delayed the more knotty the problem will become.

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s remark that there was need to address issues of trust deficit and government performance cannot remedy the situation.

By shifting the responsibility of its follies to the ruling National Conference, which with all its limitations has stood by New Delhi from day one, New Delhi is only proving that it has committed one mistake after another, without realising that it would have to pay for its lapses some day.

Each time an economic or employment package is considered a panacea for all troubles. The challenge from the days of Sheikh Abdullah is how New Delhi gives Srinagar a sense of identity without letting Kashmir translate that status into independence?

That there is no alternative to talks goes without saying. But the talks with the type of fundamentalists who are in the forefront will be difficult to conduct because they are the ones who incite people in the name of religion. They have pushed Kashmirayat, a pluralistic concept, to the back burner and brought fundamentalism to the fore.

Yet New Delhi has to separate these elements from those who want to rule democratically and in a pluralistic way. But this does not mean that India has all the time to sort out the fundamentalists. Ultimately, it depends on what New Delhi is willing to offer in terms of political power.

The Bharatiya Janata Party is the biggest impediment. It has politicised the issue and refurbished parochialism. At the back of its mind is the Hindutva philosophy which, it believes, cannot cope with a Muslim-majority territory.

Already Narendra Modi of the Gujarat carnage notoriety has started attacking New Delhi for not being tough on Kashmir. The world knows what his toughness means.

He is also preparing the Hindus for the verdict on the Babri Masjid-Ram Janmabhoomi dispute scheduled to be announced on Sept 24. Both communities are on the edge.

Some argue that the panacea is to concede the right of self-determination. Today’s world which is a witness to economic unions and common markets does not recognise any group of people or area which raises the standard of separation.

No state can accede to this principle because it gives sanction to centrifugal forces and fissiparous tendencies. Were the principle of self-determination to be applied in Southeast Asia, many states in the region would face the prospect of disintegration.

New Delhi’s mistake is that it has left the Kashmir problem unattended to for such a long period. It proves the charge that many elements have come to develop a vested interest in the status quo.

Manmohan Singh is quite right when he says that he is willing to talk to any party or group so long as it does not project or support violence. However, the hard-liners have spelled out certain demands. Talks have to be held without prior conditions.

Once New Delhi and Srinagar have come to terms, they should talk to Islamabad. Even otherwise, all three can sit across the table. The participation of Pakistan is necessary because all agreements, beginning from the one at Tashkent to that at Shimla, mention Pakistan as one of the important parties.

Moreover, not long ago, India and Pakistan had almost clinched the issue if former Indian prime minister Atal Behari Vajpayee and former Pakistan foreign minister Khursheed Kasuri are to be believed.
 
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For the second time this week, Pakistan on Friday called upon India to exercise restraint in ‘Indian occupied Kashmir (IoK)’ and urged the international community to take steps for safeguarding the human rights of Kashmiris. It also sought early and full resumption of the dialogue process with India; adding that Pakistan wants a constructive, sustained and result-oriented dialogue on all issues including the Jammu & Kashmir (J&K) dispute.

The statement issued by the Foreign Office takes serious note of the deteriorating situation in Kashmir.

“The Kashmiris are unanimous in their demand for self-determination. This sentiment and its firm determination is being reflected in the peaceful protests of the youth, women and all segments of civil society.”

Condemning the brutality of the security forces, Pakistan said the killing of innocent Kashmiris, continued arrests and detention of Kashmiri leaders was unacceptable.

The statement said Pakistan was committed to finding a fair and peaceful resolution of the issue of Jammu & Kashmir in accordance with the relevant United Nations resolutions and wishes and aspirations of the Kashmiri people.

This is the second time this week that Pakistan has issued an official statement on the situation in Kashmir. The last statement was issued on Tuesday, a day after 15 people were killed.


The Hindu : News / International : Pak urges international community to safeguard human rights in Kashmir
 
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For the second time this week, Pakistan on Friday called upon India to exercise restraint in ‘Indian occupied Kashmir (IoK)’ and urged the international community to take steps for safeguarding the human rights of Kashmiris. It also sought early and full resumption of the dialogue process with India; adding that Pakistan wants a constructive, sustained and result-oriented dialogue on all issues including the Jammu & Kashmir (J&K) dispute.

The statement issued by the Foreign Office takes serious note of the deteriorating situation in Kashmir.

The FO might as well spit out the truth that Pakistan wants Kashmir for itself, its pretty much clear from the mindset of its millitary which unequivocally, and delusionally, states Kashmir is rightfully theirs.

“The Kashmiris are unanimous in their demand for self-determination. This sentiment and its firm determination is being reflected in the peaceful protests of the youth, women and all segments of civil society.”

Self-determination; right. Only upto the extent that Kashmir joins Pakistan, that is the official Pakisatn stance...isn't it.

This is the second time this week that Pakistan has issued an official statement on the situation in Kashmir. The last statement was issued on Tuesday, a day after 15 people were killed.


The Hindu : News / International : Pak urges international community to safeguard human rights in Kashmir

Please go ahead and shout it out a couple of hundred times more, maybe then somebody will notice what Pakistan has to say in the international fora.
 
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Kashmir belongs to the KASHMIRIS thats where they live in, their ancestors lived in, and where their roots began. Kashmir doesnt belong to any gujrati, rajasthani, tamil, bahari, and the rest of you dravadian bharatis who stick out like buffaloes when standing next to a Kashmiri.

To you and your kind

Kashmiri = Sunni Muslims.

You fail to see the secular past of the valley. What is has become today is another Pakistan with religious intolerance and extremist tendencies.
 
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something similar must be practised in Indian occupied Kashmir.
 
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Kashmir belongs to the KASHMIRIS thats where they live in, their ancestors lived in, and where their roots began. Kashmir doesnt belong to any gujrati, rajasthani, tamil, bahari, and the rest of you.

Great work buddy, you finally managed to realize Kashmir belonged to the Kashmiris. Now do us all a favor and ask your govt and army to declare that too, since they dont support your POV. None of them supports Kashmir independence rather they want Kashmir itself.

When and if you do that, then come and tell us what to do.
 
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