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Going by your theory asking for the links for every Muslim massacre that happened during partition I guess u will argue that there were no killings of Muslims in Punjab and bihar either.

Messacar of Muslims in Punjab and Bihar.:blink::blink:......Apart from 1947 Riots....I dont think .....There was a Anti muslim Riot in Punjab and Bihar.....and please...People from Both sides got killed in those riots.......and for your information there are items posted on web available which reveal human tragedy of those riots.....so if they are present....why don't we have a post for 1947 Anti Muslim Riots in Kashmir..... in fact the number of Hindus in Kashmir was very less to coordinate any such act.....because there was no such riots. All Pakistani cooked Propaganda.....
 
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Lady you just calculated... there are less than 300000 Security Personal in Kashmir.....

So please I request you to stop repeating this 700000 or provide the link for Amnesty International report Claiming 700000 Army men in Kashmir...

Anyhow the fact is that many parts of the State have no complaints from the presence of the Indian army. For example, people of Gilgit and Baltistan have no problem with the Indian army. Leaders from Gilgit and Baltistan on the topic have no problem from the Indian army. However their problem is related to the presence of the Pakistan army in Gilgit and Baltistan and many regard it as an army of occupation.

NO NO, not BS like this :angry:
Kashmirs dont regard IA as occupant thats new for me, come on tell me that all Kashmirs in IOK are killed by Militants & all rape cases are also done by Militants, all the protest happening there are all conducted by militants
 
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And what do you do then? Burn them or dig grave for them?

The difference of religion will remain there, always!

If he is a muslim soldier he will be buried and namaza janazah prayed for him.
If he is a hindu he will be cremated as per his religious rites.
So what?

That doesn't diminish the fact that both gave their life to protect the people of their country and deserve respect.
 
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Messacar of Muslims in Punjab and Bihar.:blink::blink:......Apart from 1947 Riots....I dont think .....There was a Anti muslim Riot in Punjab and Bihar.....and please...People from Both sides got killed in those riots.......and for your information there are items posted on web available which reveal human tragedy of those riots.....so if they are present....why don't we have a post for 1947 Anti Muslim Riots in Kashmir..... in fact the number of Hindus in Kashmir was very less to coordinate any such act.....because there was no such riots. All Pakistani cooked Propaganda.....


I will say it and you will reject it, but did you know that Sikh's, Hindus. and Gorkhas were actively involved in Killing of Muslims where ever possible. And Kashmir was not an exception. You will ask for a link i will put forth one and the you will reject it by claiming it to be some non Indian website and anti Indian, so i wont bother. And as far as people getting killed from both sides, Pakistan didn't send trains full of bodies to India, and I am saying that not because I have read it from some where. I had family that was killed by these very sardars on their way to Pakistan and these are first hand facts.
 
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I will say it and you will reject it, but did you know that Sikh's, Hindus. and Gorkhas were actively involved in Killing of Muslims where ever possible. And Kashmir was not an exception. You will ask for a link i will put forth one and the you will reject it by claiming it to be some non Indian website and anti Indian, so i wont bother. And as far as people getting killed from both sides, Pakistan didn't send trains full of bodies to India, and I am saying that not because I have read it from some where. I had family that was killed by these very sardars on their way to Pakistan and these are first hand facts.

Well...If you claim ...what do you have to back your claim......I claimed ...there are less than 300000 Army men in Kashmir..I backed it with news items....you too ..provide news items.....
 
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Well...If you claim ...what do you have to back your claim......I claimed ...there are less than 300000 Army men in Kashmir..I backed it with news items....you too ..provide news items.....

First of all i have neither claimed about the number of Indian soldiers nor i have contradicted yours. Read the post again please.

Edit: On your claim about the indian soldiers, you provided an indian source. And then at the same time when Emo-Girl provided a link about Kashmiri killings you rejected it by calling it Pakistani and anti Indian.
 
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lolzzz have u seen them, all of the links are Either Indian, some Blog or Wikipedia, i havent been able to Find that link so u win here, for the time being, BUT U HAVE NOT GIVEN ME ANY NEUTRAL LINK...
& as for your other post regarding 'neutral Source' there is a book called "Alive & well in Pakistan by Ethan Casey" its about Pakistan but in its initial Chapters he is describing his stay in Indian Kashmir with one of the Kashmir Muslims & he's conclusion in the end is that Kashmiri Muslim do have a will to gain independence e.g. i will qoute the one line in it that i remember "They(Muslims) dont believe in any party except Self determination, Free of Indian interference"
Don't Say me Ethan Casey is a Dumb Head :bounce:
 
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First of all i have neither claimed about the number of Indian soldiers nor i have contradicted yours. Read the post again please.

Edit: On your claim about the indian soldiers, you provided an indian source. And then at the same time when Emo-Girl provided a link about Kashmiri killings you rejected it by calling it Pakistani and anti Indian.

This has been the story always....I submit a proof...its refuted....you submit a proof its refuted.....thats what forums are all about......getting to know...other side of the story.....and then mixing it up...with your story ...and interpreting the middle line......we come here with open mind....

Elmo Girl...refuted my links...but she read those links....analyzed information...this may have given her some information about India...similarly I get some information on Pakistani side of the story.....

Thats what forums are all about...... I suggest you come to these forums to learn...not to prove that you are right and I am wrong.......remember ...we all have biases.....and they will remain for ever......
 
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lolzzz have u seen them, all of the links are Either Indian, some Blog or Wikipedia, i havent been able to Find that link so u win here, for the time being...
& as for your other post regarding 'neutral Source' there is a book called "Alive & well in Pakistan by Ethan Casey" its about Pakistan but in its initial Chapters he is describing his stay in Indian Kashmir with one of the Kashmir Muslims & he's conclusion in the end is that Kashmiri Muslim do have a will to gain independence e.g. i will qoute the one line in it that i remember "They(Muslims) dont believe in any parry except Self determination, Free of Indian interference"
Don't Say me Ethan Casey is a Dumb Head :bounce:

Its never about winning or losing...its about learning about each other ...about each others Country....about what kind of information sources we skim....about sharing ...about interpreting ...and in turn making each other learn........and learning from each other....
 
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The main contention is wether LeT and hizb are "freedom fighters" or terrorists. If Kashmiris want to express there view without the use of arms, and there is also a section of Kashmiris who are pro-India as well. These freedom-fighters operate out of Pakistan and kill anyone who doesn't have a pro-Pakistan view. That includes killing pro-independance leaders as well.

Therefore they are terrorists, its as simple as that
 
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This has been the story always....I submit a proof...its refuted....you submit a proof its refuted.....thats what forums are all about......getting to know...other side of the story.....and then mixing it up...with your story ...and interpreting the middle line......we come here with open mind....

Elmo Girl...refuted my links...but she read those links....analyzed information...this may have given her some information about India...similarly I get some information on Pakistani side of the story.....

Thats what forums are all about...... I suggest you come to these forums to learn...not to prove that you are right and I am wrong.......remember ...we all have biases.....and they will remain for ever......


As I said I never claimed your side to be wrong and mine to be right, as far as the Muslim massacres in Punjab and bihar are concerned i will provide you with the links you can go through them and then reject them, no issues with me. Also i did mention to you that some of the things i stated in my post were stated to me by family members who lived through the horror.
 
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