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[Prometheus]

Ok how long India will supressed people of occupied kashmir?? There is no such thing as winning heart and mind..even of you open the whole world treasures to they its highly unlikey that they would give up their fight for freedom. Kashmir do not belong to India they should stop blaming Pakistan and ISI and serious look into the issue.

I was just wondering Why there are protest in valley region only and that also by a particular religion????
answer that and you might get the answer of ur querry

 

[somebozo]

I was just wondering Why there are protest in valley region only and that also by a particular religion????
answer that and you might get the answer of ur querry

Well Pakistan movement was also run by people of particular religion and region. Apply the same logic then. If it was accecptable back in 46 then it should be accecptable in 2010 too.

Kashmir is indian if balooch is pakistani.

On 28 March 1948, the then Khan of Kalat acceded the kalat state to Pakistan in peaceful manner and went on to form the Baluchistan States Union on 3 October 1952 with three neighbouring states. The state of Kalat ceased to exist on 14 October 1955 when the province of West Pakistan was formed.

Indians have very good principles of manipulating and diverting discussion subject be it real life or forums however very few people are stupid enough to give in. One shall look at the facts and figured before blindly pointing fingers. Baluchistan willfully joined Pakistan and no country in the world considers it a disputed terriotry. J&K on other than is recocnised as disputed world wide. Now lets not bend and twist the discussion by comparing a disputed terriotry with an offical provience of Pakistan. India is a country which has sepratist insurgencies in 70% of its official terriotry where its security forces are getting whooped in broad daylight then resort to terrorising unarmed civilians and women. Tell me one forigen country which has claims on Baluchistan or its boundries>?

 

[xyz]

Simple Thing

Khali Dimag Shaitan ka Ghar!

 

[Star of David]

I agree but problem is you cannot send people in large number in a day and in small number they will kill.

Man stop thinking negative...where there is a will there is a way. Look at Tibet, the Chinese have done it. All Indians should their best to counter the propaganda on Facebook.....whenever you meet a Kashmiri bring it up, don't shy away. Look if the Kashmiri's hate India that much get a visa and walk to ***. Good riddance!

 

[RamGorur]

This clause would only apply if J&K was indian terriotry ever in history which it is not. The Indian propoganda of akhand bharat has not sucessfully brainwashed anyone yet other than Indians themselves.

Prerequisites for a calling a territory as one's own include, legally acceptable mode of accession and de facto control of such territory. Instrument of Accession provides that legal basis to call Jammu and Kashmir as Indian territory.

 

[somebozo]

Ok so sepration of Bangladesh accecptable but not Kashmir which neither is nor was an integratal part of India.?? Its all about kashmiri resources nothing else. The problem is India established an example of people power of terrorism by helping East-Pakistani dissidents. Now the Kashmiris read the history turning in their favour some time in distant future..

 

[anurag_singh]

If you(Pakistanis) want plebiscite in kashmir. I want a plebiscite in whole Indian sub-continent to check what people want 1 country or 3 countries.

 

[somebozo]

The agreed upon mode of accession of Baluchistan was referendum. By same token, the agreed upon mode of mode of accession of all the Princely States was execution of Instrument of Accession. Both were followed in letter and spirit. Hence both are integral parts of Pakistan and India respectively.

Also, Pakistan doesn't have any claim on Kashmir.

So where is that letter or accession?? Supposedly lost?? Stolen by aliens?? Dissapeared in thin air?? And you seem to forget the clause that all muslim majority areas were to join Pakistan. And it was India and not Pakistan which first unleased the millitary in Kashmir.

If you(Pakistanis) want plebiscite in kashmir. I want a plebiscite in whole Indian sub-continent to check what people want 1 country or 3 countries.

That doesnt make sense..thats like diverting subject or derailing thread..in any event the outcome will not be in indian favour..they cannot digest the idea of Pakistani and Kashmiri independence let alone breaking india in 20 smaller states.

 

[RamGorur]

Ok so sepration of Bangladesh accecptable but not Kashmir which neither is nor was an integratal part of India.??

Bangladesh had no right to separate till 26th March, 1971. The systematic genocide that followed, gave the Bangalis of East Pakistan the right to secede from Pakistan.

Its all about kashmiri resources nothing else.

In 1948 (?) India was not at all interested in Kashmir. There is plenty of evidence of that. One being Patel's proposal that Hyderabad be negotiated for Kashmir. But Jinnah wanted it all - Junagad, Kashmir, Hyderabad. Ended up getting none and left us with a cancer.

The problem is India established an example of people power of terrorism by helping East-Pakistani dissidents. Now the Kashmiris read the history turning in their favour some time in distant future..

Wrong. It was Pakistan which first used insurgents to capture Kashmir.

 

[somebozo]

Bangladesh had no right to separate till 26th March, 1971. The systematic genocide that followed, gave the Bangalis of East Pakistan the right to secede from Pakistan.

While the Pakistan Army attempted to quell the uprisings, which included killings of tens of thousands of non-Bengalis by Bengali rebels,[4] incidents of human rights abuses were carried out by certain sections of the Pakistan Army in East Pakistan

Aggreed but uprising started by Indian organised terrorist killing sevral non-bengali goverment officals. The retaliation only came from PA. The most foolish part was pre-emptive strike on India which pulled India into conflict on the offensive mode.

In 1948 (?) India was not at all interested in Kashmir. There is plenty of evidence of that. One being Patel's proposal that Hyderabad be negotiated for Kashmir. But Jinnah wanted it all - Junagad, Kashmir, Hyderabad. Ended up getting none and left us with a cancer.

You forgot the logic..Muslim majority areas were to accede Pakistan. Jinah was never all that curious about Hydrabad because it was logically and physically impossible due to lack of shared border. However Junagarh was hot bed of debate and so was Kashmir being Muslim majority.

Wrong. It was Pakistan which first used insurgents to capture Kashmir.

Jinnah had to go through refusal of general gracey and organised the tribal millitant forced. This all happened after Jinnah got the news of indian army presense in Kashmir. So how could he be the first to invade????

 

[RamGorur]

So where is that letter or accession?? Supposedly lost?? Stolen by aliens?? Dissapeared in thin air??

I suggest you try something else other than denying the existence of IoA.

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And you seem to forget the clause that all muslim majority areas were to join Pakistan.

There was no such clause for the Princely States.

And it was India and not Pakistan which first unleased the millitary in Kashmir.

Perhaps on some other planet, in some parallel Universe. Not on this planet in this Universe.

 

[Jade]

Separatist don’t want AFSPA to be withdrawn, as they will loose this as tool to stoke violence in future. Government has to careful and not fall into this trap. Everything will be OK in two or three days.

 

[RamGorur]

Aggreed but uprising started by Indian organised terrorist killing sevral non-bengali goverment officals. The retaliation only came from PA.

This is the Pakistani version of history. Refer to Richard Sisson and Leo Rose. Don't be surprised if you are surprised.

Jinnah had to go through refusal of general gracey and organised the tribal millitant forced. This all happened after Jinnah got the news of indian army presense in Kashmir. So how could he be the first to invade????

Why do you think the Maharaja of Kashmir sought help of Indian Army on 24th Oct, 1947? What do you think was happening in Kashmir on 21st Oct, 1947?

 

[JanjaWeed]

Anti-India rally held in Kashmir

something new pls!!

 

[civfanatic]

Clock Tower Lal Chowk ..Sep -11- 2010



Close up of above



Eid Gah ...Sep -11 -2010



Lal Chowk on sep 11 2010 Where Clock tower is sitiuated