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[punit]

Re: Charge Nehru with sedition, Arundhati tells Delhi

lol some one should arrange a meeting b/w Arundhati roy and Late Nehru . better issue a warrant and send Ms Roy to deliver it to Pt.Nehru

 

[WAR-rior]

I would be surprised if the youth were Muslims.

I wasnt surprised either seeing this news.
Its a routine now.
The militants in the IA Uniforms must be taken strict action from UN.

ATB.

 

[Coltsfan]

I would be surprised if the youth were Muslims.

I wasnt surprised either seeing this news.
Its a routine now.
The militants in the IA Uniforms must be taken strict action from UN.

Haven't you heard the news? UN has nothing to do with Kashmir anymore, they got tired of Pakistan's incessant whining at every opportunity and have asked them to sort it out directly with India without dragging them in it anymore.

Very soon OIC is going to do the same....... inshallah...

 

[foxbat]

Two militants killed in J&K encounter

Srinagar: Two militants were killed in a fierce encounter with the security personnel in Jammu and Kashmir's Kishtwar district on Sunday.

According to reports, the militants belonged to Hizbul Mujahideen.

Security personnel have recovered a pistol from the militants killed.

Read more at: Two militants killed in J&K encounter

 

[BATMAN]

Haven't you heard the news? UN has nothing to do with Kashmir anymore, they got tired of Pakistan's incessant whining at every opportunity and have asked them to sort it out directly with India without dragging them in it anymore.

Very soon OIC is going to do the same....... inshallah...

And this gives you licence to kill?

Fake encounters are not limited to Occupied Kashmir, Muslims are being killed in Punjab, Gujrat, Hyderabad, Kerala etc.
Christians villages are being burned down, nuns are being raped and pastors are paraded naked.

UN is unfair organisation and injustice cannot resolve issues.

 

[Coltsfan]

And this gives you licence to kill?

Fake encounters are not limited to Kashmir.

UN is unfair organisation and injustice cannot resolve issues.

Exactly, therefore outside forces should stop intervening in what is a strictly internal strife of India.

How India takes care of that is our concern

 

[BATMAN]

Walls are closing in on Ms Roy. She should have stuck with Maoists since they have a section of sympathisers, but with J&K, she has bitten off more than she can chew..

Are you going to shoot her or implicit her for no apparent offence?

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

Are you going to shoot her or implicit her for no apparent offence?

No apparent offence? really? Come on. I expect an elite member to have that much common sense.

 

[Ganguly]

‘Sweet’ city shows it can be blunt too
The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Frontpage | ‘Sweet’ city shows it can be blunt too

Calcutta, Nov. 28: Moderate Hurriyat chief Mirwaiz Umer Farooq today had a chance to enjoy Calcutta’s famous sweets but not perhaps another of the city’s vaunted trademarks: tolerance for dissent.

At a seminar at the Academy of Fine Arts, speaker after speaker from diverse backgrounds rounded on the separatist after he denied that Kashmir was a part of India and argued for the azaadi cause.

The critics included retired army chief and former Rajya Sabha member General Shankar Roychowdhury, ex-mayor Bikash Ranjan Bhattacharyya, businessman Sishir Bajoria and IIM Calcutta professor Surendra Munshi.

Asked by Roychowdhury if he considered Kashmir a part of India, the Mirwaiz said: “No, Kashmir is disputed land.”

It evoked a strong reaction, appearing to unite his fellow panellists at the discussion “Kashmir — The Way Out”, organised by a city NGO, the Centre for Peace and Progress.

“No part of Jammu and Kashmir will be allowed to secede. Staying within India, within the framework of the Constitution, ask for anything,” Roychowdhury said. He accused the Hurriyat of provoking innocents into joining street protests, causing 115 deaths since June 2010.
“Can he (the Mirwaiz) name a single Hurriyat leader attacked in these protests? Pakistan is funding this. They want revenge for Bangladesh,” an agitated Roychowdhury said as the Mirwaiz fixed his gaze on the ceiling.
If the general’s attack was frontal, the lawyer Bhattacharyya questioned the rationale behind the azaadi demand. “You clearly say you do not want development or peace…. The only thing you want is so-called freedom. Are you living in a colonised state?”
The Hurriyat chief, who was accompanied by fellow Kashmiri leader Bilal Lone, had earlier said: “The core issue... is not development, not economic packages, not peace. It’s the sentiment of azaadi.”
When the Mirwaiz was leaving the venue, a small group of waiting BJP youth activists threw an egg at his car but missed. Police said 22 people were arrested.

Later in the afternoon, as he set off to check out the sweets of Calcutta, the Mirwaiz told The Telegraph he had found the concerted criticism “extremely unfortunate”.

Asked if he had expected this of Calcutta’s civil society, he said: “People in Calcutta, I would like to believe, are humanists and democrats.”

It’s possible the opinions heard today were a reflection of the popular mood prevailing since 26/11, heightened by Pakistan’s inaction against the plotters and the recent pro-azaadi comments by author Arundhati Roy. The Mirwaiz and other Kashmiri separatists have recently evoked more violent reactions in Delhi and Chandigarh during tours to explain their stand.

On Thursday, some Kashmiri Pandits had roughed up the Mirwaiz and Lone in Chandigarh. Last month, a Pandit had hurled a shoe at Hurriyat hawk Syed Ali Shah Geelani at a Delhi seminar where he was sitting next to Roy. Yesterday, a Delhi court asked the police to file an FIR for sedition against Roy and Geelani.

“I strongly condemn the action against Roy,” the Mirwaiz said today. “It is time for India to get out of this denial mode.”

But his fellow panellists at the seminar contended that it was the separatists who were in “denial”, fomenting unrest with barely a thought for Kashmir’s poor.

 

[Coltsfan]

Are you going to shoot her or implicit her for no apparent offence?

I would consider to 'implicit her' if you could explain what it means

 

[StingRoy]

^^^ Yeh aadmi dar dar bhatak ke laat kyoon khana chahta hai?

 

[Fasih Khan]

Charge Nehru with sedition, Arundhati tells Delhi


By Jawed Naqvi


Sunday, 28 Nov, 2010


NEW DELHI, Nov 27: A Delhi court ordered police on Saturday to file charges against a Kashmiri resistance leader and his Indian supporters who have been accused by the national media of sedition.


However, writer activist Arundhati Roy, one of the alleged participants in a recent ‘anti-national’ seminar, said police should first file sedition charges against Jawaharlal Nehru because the country’s first prime minister believed the Kashmir dispute could only be settled by the people of Kashmir.


Delhi’s Metropolitan Magistrate Navita Kumari Bagga directed the police to lodge an FIR against hardline Hurriyat leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani, Ms Roy and five others on the charge of sedition for their alleged anti-India speeches.


Ms Bagga, under pressure from rightwing Hindu petitioners, slammed the police for their prolonged inaction and ‘weird’ reply that no offence was made out against Mr Geelani and Ms Roy, whose speeches had triggered a nationwide controversy.


Ms Roy said it was a frivolous case which had sought to shift the focus away from the raging financial scandals that have rocked Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s government. Leading media personalities, some of them questioning her patriotism, were caught in the net of a damaging probe.


In a press statement, Ms Roy listed a number of occasions when India’s first prime minister had described the Kashmir dispute in a manner which would offend most Indians today. She urged the police to file an FIR against Mr Nehru posthumously.


According to Ms Roy, in his statement in the Indian Constituent Assembly on 25th November, 1947, Mr Nehru said:

“In order to establish our bona fide, we have suggested that when the people are given the chance to decide their future, this should be done under the supervision of an impartial tribunal such as the United Nations Organisation. The issue in Kashmir is whether violence and naked force should decide the future or the will of the people”.


In his statement in the Indian Parliament on 7th August, 1952, according to Ms Roy, Mr Nehru said:

“Kashmir is very close to our minds and hearts and if by some decree or adverse fortune, ceases to be a part of India, it will be a wrench and a pain and torment for us. If, however, the people of Kashmir do not wish to remain with us, let them go by all means. We will not keep them against their will, however painful it may be to us. I want to stress that it is only the people of Kashmir who can decide the future of Kashmir…

However sad we may feel about leaving we are not going to stay against the wishes of the people. We are not going to impose ourselves on them on the point of the bayonet”.


Ms Roy said the Indian government was clearly violating Mr Nehru’s pledge by seeking to bludgeon the people of Kashmir into submission.



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Only If Indians have had an Iota of Shame left in them so the Above Statement of Ms. Roy is enough to prove India's hollow claims, Wrong over Kashmir.

 

[foxbat]

Are you going to shoot her or implicit her for no apparent offence?

Neither. She is simply losing her main weapon by this.. Credibility and backing among the Indian masses. Maoists were fine since they are still Indians with a different political agenda. But with her approach on J&K, she is being quickly moving into the zone of being labled as a Pakistani stooge. Like a Gilani or Mirwaiz. Now they are neither shot nor assasinated in a military operation (unlike some other secessionists a few hundred miles west of Srinagar), but surely have no popularity left in rest of India. And thats where her strength and moolah comes from.

Thats what I mean by walls closing in on her..

 

[foxbat]

Only If Indians have had an Iota of Shame left in them so the Above Statement of Ms. Roy is enough to prove India's hollow claims, Wrong over Kashmir.

Do you want me to pull out statements by your esteemed generals and columnists blasting Pakistan's alleged policy of supporting terrorists and its impact on Pakistan's situation. Would that use any iotas of shame in Pakistanis to and change their views about Pakistan's stand on terrorism?

Either contribute with arguements and logic or just listen.. Why spoil the thread with jingoistic statements that have no substance..?

 

[Developereo]

So by this definition is Raja Farooq Haider Khan (Prime Minister of AJK) a Pakistani stooge and traitor to the people of Kashmir?

The definition would apply only if the people were so rebellious that Pakistan had to station 600,000 troops to contain them.