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Awwwww... that melted my heart.

Hear's another scenario- sooner or later a good human being would be elected to the white house who will first ask the kashmiri muslims and pakistanis , why they did what they did to the kashmiri minorites and after all that , what moral right do they have to cry for the human rights of the majority there ?

And that good human being would also ask what this freedom movement has to do with 'Kashmiriyat' as the separatists like to claim when it is only the kashmiri sunni muslims who support it and no one else .

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All separatists have welcomed minorities back and a free Kashmir would be a secular one.

The creation of strife with the minorities was executed by India and India alone when it refused to grant them their right for self-determination.

Give them their democratic rights and let everyone vote for whatever they want to.
 
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And why would that good human being be satisfied with just that. Might want to also look at the Baluchistan issue, the Tibetan issue, the Kurdish issue & so on. Why would a good human being bother himself with technicalities of whether something is disputed or not?

Btw, the question i raised earlier of why the whole lot of you guys believe that the US can influence us to act against what we perceive to be our national interest remains unanswered.
Anywhere where the UN mandates the right to self-determination that should be given. Only Kashmir fits that description.
 
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And why would that good human being be satisfied with just that. Might want to also look at the Baluchistan issue, the Tibetan issue, the Kurdish issue & so on. Why would a good human being bother himself with technicalities of whether something is disputed or not?

Btw, the question i raised earlier of why the whole lot of you guys believe that the US can influence us to act against what we perceive to be our national interest remains unanswered.
The US did take on Yogusalavia and then later on Serbia for causes of Muslim freedom. Sooner or later, Indian money won't be enough a reason to justify suppression and subjugation of Kashmiris.
 
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Minorities in an "independent Jammu and Kashmir" would enjoy secular rights, maintained the octogenarian leader.

First let Geelani to reciprocate his words by work as well.
 
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I personally think Obama's words were not enough and he needs to "do more". At least he didn't leave India calling Kashmir "an integral part of India". The game is still on, it shows the Americans are still not in the position where they will accept total Indian point of view readily. I really think the American president should entertain Mirwaiz, Geelani and even Yaseen Malik and really get a first hand account of what Kashmiris think about the issue. His statement "Kashmir is a long standing dispute between Indian and Pakistan" Should have been Kashmir Dispute has been a suffering for the people of Kashmir.

World leaders need to forget about India and Pakistan and think about Kashmiris.

Why should obama entertain these leaders, is there any mutual interest between two?? No
I think its so weak statement to say that obama gets " first hand account of what Kashmiris think about the issue".

Obama already knows everything and turning deaf to it, why so??
Get an idea, i must say that pakistans leadership dont request obama to say over kashmir issue and get humiliated by striaght NO.
 
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All separatists have welcomed minorities back and a free Kashmir would be a secular one.

The creation of strife with the minorities was executed by India and India alone when it refused to grant them their right for self-determination.

Give them their democratic rights and let everyone vote for whatever they want to.

I don't think you have been reading the news lately.

Geelani has repeatedly called for making Kashmir an islamic state and has also stated that hindus and Muslims are a separate nation which can't live together.

And this guy enjoys rock star status among the kashmiri sunni muslims in the kashmir valley , it doesn't take much of an effort to know the wishes of the sunni muslims there.
 
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Geelani: Kashmiris want liberation from India

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Friday, 12 November 2010 21:04


Srinagar, November 12, 2010: All Parties Hurriyat Conference Chairman, Syed Ali Shah Geelani, has urged India to realise ground realities and give Kashmiris their right of Self-Determination. Syed Ali Shah Geelani in a statement issued in Srinagar said that the continued agitation in the occupied territory for the last over four months had proved that the people of Occupied State of Jammu & Kashmir (OSJK) did not want to live with India but wanted liberation from its bondage.

Syed Ali Shah Geelani also denounced the crackdowns by occupation authorities against different Hurriyat leaders. He said that India wanted to suppress the Kashmiris’ ongoing "Quit Kashmir Movement" through use of brute force but it would never succeed in its nefarious designs.

APHC Chairman, Syed Ali Shah Geelani had said that New Delhi had used every brute tactic to prevent the people from raising voice for their inalienable right. “The people of Kashmir will continue their just struggle despite all odds till its logical conclusion,” he vowed.

Syed Ali Shah Geelani expressed concern over the deteriorating health of illegally detained Kashmiri Hurriyat leaders and activists, languishing in different jails and interrogation centres of India and the occupied valley. He demanded of their immediate unconditional release.

The authorities placed the APHC Chairman, Syed Ali Shah Geelani, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq and many other APHC senior leaders. Meanwhile, authorities have also not lifted the siege of the house of Syed Ali Shah Geelani, who was arrested after he came from New Delhi on October 24 after attending a seminar there and was put him under house arrest at his Hyderpora residence in Srinagar.

APHC leader and the Acting Chairman of Jammu and Kashmir Peoples League (JKPL), Mukhtar Ahmad Waza has expressed serious concern over the plight of illegally detained pro-freedom leaders and activists, languishing in different jails in and outside the territory.

Mukhtar Ahmad Waza in a statement issued in Srinagar said that the unlawfully detained Hurriyet leaders and activists including Yasmeen Raja, Muhammad Ashraf Sehrai, Mian Abdul Qayoom and Ghulam Nabi Shaheen were suffering from different ailments due to the lack of proper medical facilities in jails.

He urged India to give up its unrealistic stance on Kashmir and take concrete steps to resolve the dispute in accordance with the Kashmiris’ aspirations. “India must acknowledge Kashmir’s disputed nature and amicably settle it according to the people’s wishes by giving them the right of Self-Determination,” he added.

Waza strongly denounced the continued curfew in Sheer, Delina and Palhalan and accentuated that India would not be able to suppress Kashmiris’ just struggle through use of brute force. He appealed the United Nations, Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) and human rights organisations including Amnesty International and Asia Watch to put pressure on India for early settlement of the lingering dispute.

The Chairman of Jammu and Kashmir Peoples Freedom League (JKPFL), Muhammad Farooq Rehmani, has denounced the gross human rights violations perpetrated by Indian troops in Occupied State of Jammu & Kashmir (OSJK).

Muhammad Farooq Rehmani in a statement issued in Islamabad said that New Delhi was utilising every brute tactic to suppress the ongoing "Quit Kashmir Movement". “Kashmiris have rendered matchless sacrifices for liberation movement and they will continue their struggle till complete success,” he added

He said that the occupation authorities were illegally detaining the innocent Kashmiri people for raising voice against the Indian state terrorism in the territory. Rehmani said that the day was not away when the people of the occupied territory would get rid of Indian bondage.

The Chairman of JKPFL reiterated the pledge to continue liberation movement despite all odds. He also demanded of the United Nations to resolve the longstanding Kashmir dispute in accordance with Kashmiris’ aspirations so that permanent peace could be established in South Asia.

The Chairman of Kashmir Centre Brussels, Barrister Abdul Majeed Tramboo has denounced the use of brute force against innocent Kashmiris in Pattan by Indian troops. Barrister Abdul Majeed Tramboo in a statement issued in Brussels said that the occupation troops resorted to heavy lathi charge and severely injured Kashmiri youth, doctors and teachers. “On one hand, the occupation authorities have unleashed reign of terror across the territory and, on the other, India is talking about negotiations,” he added.

He expressed concern over the harassment of Hurriyat leaders, illegal detention of pro-freedom leaders and restrictions imposed by the occupation authorities on Kashmiris to perform religious duties at their respective holy places.

Paying glowing tributes to Arif Ahmad Matta, a Kashmiri, resident of Chankral Muhallah, who was martyred by Indian troops, he said that the troopers were using brute tactics to suppress peoples’ struggle against illegal Indian occupation.

A teenaged boy, who was battling for life after being hit by a teargas shell of paramilitary forces during protests last year, succumbed to injuries, today.

The 14-year-old, Mohammad Aarif Butt died on Friday morning at his residence in Habbakadal area of the Srinagar city and was laid to rest at Eidgah graveyard.

He was hit by a tear smoke shell fired by paramilitary forces to quell protests at Maisuma near Budshah Chowk in October last year. He had later slipped into coma at the hospital. He was shifted to his house, where he was under treatment, for the past several months.

At least 20 civilians including a local doctor were injured when troopers and police went on a beating spree indiscriminately in Pattan area of Occupied State of Jammu & Kashmir (OSJK). Six persons were also detained from the neighbouring Palhallan area.

The locals of Pattan said that troopers barged into the residential houses and a girls’ school and beat inmates and teachers. The residents stated, the troops, comprising 29 Rashtriya Rifles, Central Reserve Police Force and Special Operations Group, brandishing sticks and sophisticated weapons, started house to house searches in different Pattan localities like Gojri Mohalla, Jamia Mohalla, Wani Mohalla, Ahangar Mohalla and beat the inmates without any reason.

The troopers also smashed windowpanes and damaged houses. They said that due to intimidation by troops, many youth had to flee from the area to save themselves from getting beaten. The residents said that the beating spree started on Wednesday evening when troops and police laid siege of Bazaar Mohalla, Kandhar Mohalla, Gashiwara, Teli Mohalla, Gori Mohalla, Wani Mohalla and Sofi Mohalla.

In Palhallan, the locals said, police and CRPF raided Tantray Mohalla and detained six youth and beat people without any rhyme. The CRPF troopers along with army also barged into Girls Middle School, Goshbug, and went on a beating spree. “Panic spread in the entire school,” an eyewitness said adding, “They beat up teachers.”

Hospital authorities in Pattan said they treated six people with one having grievous injuries. They said Abdul Majid Gojri received six stitches in his head as he was severely beaten by the troopers. At Bakhipora Rafiabad, teachers in a Government school were threatened by police after the former refused to show them the attendance register.

Forceful anti-India and pro-liberation demonstrations rocked Srinagar, Budgam, Baramulla, Sopore and other towns of OSJK. People took to streets, shouting high-pitched slogans to press their demand of freedom from Indian bondage. The troops fired teargas shells and resorted to heavy baton charge to disperse demonstrators. Clashes were witnessed all along the day between the protesters and Indian police in Noorbagh, Qamarwari, Nowhatta, Habba Kadal, Sopore and Baramulla.

In Hajan, liberation leaders addressing a protest demonstration asked India to accept ground realities and come forward to resolve the Kashmir dispute in accordance with the Kashmiris’ aspirations. APHC Chairman, Syed Ali Shah Geelani’s house and his offices in Haiderpora were besieged by Indian paramilitary troopers, preventing him and his party workers from offering Juma prayers.

The authorities also placed APHC leader, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq and other leaders under house arrest. Due to restrictions, the Mirwaiz Umar Farooq could not offer Juma prayers for the 9th consecutive Friday.

A teenaged boy, battling for life after being hit by a teargas shell of paramilitary forces during pro-liberation protests died, today, at Habba Kadal in Srinagar. An Indian trooper was killed in an attack at Krankshun in Sopore.

Geelani: Kashmiris want liberation from India
 
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lol....ask him to say something new..even the kashmiris themselves are tired of listening to this line for decades :lol:
 
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Indian Jatt i think u did not remember the operation in golden temple

I very well do...its something we can never forget....but good that you brought up this issue although with an unsuccessful attempt to try and hurt some sentiments. So go ahead and tell me how you will relate that incident to this and everything that you want dicuss about the GT incident. i am here to clear your doubts once and for all.
 
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But security of minorities in Kashmir depends on Gelaani and his groupies.
Till he has a say in governmental decisions, there is no responsibility or accountability of security. He or other separatists are fighting for that right to be given to them.

Till then only Indian government is responsible all in all for everything that goes wrong in Kashmir.
 
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I don't think you have been reading the news lately.

Geelani has repeatedly called for making Kashmir an islamic state and has also stated that hindus and Muslims are a separate nation which can't live together.

And this guy enjoys rock star status among the kashmiri sunni muslims in the kashmir valley , it doesn't take much of an effort to know the wishes of the sunni muslims there.
Oh please, Geelani is one guy and I have presented to you QUOTE of what even he has said the governmental norms of a Free Kashmir would be.
 
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