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[blain2]

Congratulating the nation and Kashmiri people on international acceptance of demands of Pakistan on Kashmir issue, Gilani said people would hear good news on Kashmir soon.

Nice joke!!! Gilani cannot give the Pakistani people a single piece of good news, he is nuts if he thinks his politically charged rubbish about Kashmir holds any credibility.

 

[blain2]

A few facts. No woman in Pakistan has ever been stoned for being raped or for having *** outside of marriage.

No woman in Pakistan has been put to death for the above offenses. After the civil ruling, the cases go to the federal shariat court which looks at the issue. Over 90% of cases lodged with the court were thrown out for lack of evidence (mostly due to shoddy police work). The remaining are doing jail time.

There is far more here than to blame the Quran or the Islamic law for this. Pakistan's problem is not the Islamic law, its the lack of procedures and follow up on the part of LEAs. The courts, in light of this shoddy work, take the Islamic ruling which calls for leniency or letting off in light of missing facts and evidence.

 

[DesiGuy]

how could people of pakistan believe this guy????

 

[silent hill]

how could people of pakistan believe this guy????

its none of your business...

 

[DesiGuy]

its none of your business...

Yea....How so????

 

[toppys]

Keep an eye on SPAPEV activity. A permenant body established by Saudi Arabia to develop AJK region.

Also AJK residents have been awarded prefencial labour visas to uplift themselves from poverty.

atleast saudi is doing what india and pakistan should do.....

 

[nForce]

A few facts. No woman in Pakistan has ever been stoned for being raped or for having *** outside of marriage.

No woman in Pakistan has been put to death for the above offenses. After the civil ruling, the cases go to the federal shariat court which looks at the issue. Over 90% of cases lodged with the court were thrown out for lack of evidence (mostly due to shoddy police work). The remaining are doing jail time.

There is far more here than to blame the Quran or the Islamic law for this. Pakistan's problem is not the Islamic law, its the lack of procedures and follow up on the part of LEAs. The courts, in light of this shoddy work, take the Islamic ruling which calls for leniency or letting off in light of missing facts and evidence.

Maynot be all true...

Sentences of Stoning to Death passed in Pakistan​

'ISLAMABAD: The first sentence of stoning to death and flogging under Hudood Ordinance was passed in 1981 in the Fehmida-Allah Bukhsh case. The case in which the couple failed to register their marriage within the prescribed period was finally dismissed after Ansar Burney met with the President and much public uproar.

In 1983, in a **** case, an unfortunate blind girl Safia Bibi was convicted 'Stoning to Death' on adultery, while the alleged rapists were acquitted for want of evidence. Safia Bibi was also eventually acquitted after much personal pain and public humiliation. Again credit goes to renowned human rights activist and Chairman 'Ansar Burney Welfare Trust International' Ansar Burney, Advocate who once again met the President and informed him the injustices and sought President's intervention in the matter to save the precious life of an innocent blind girl.

In January, 1988, the sentence of stoning to death was passed in Mst Shahida Parveen case. The case in which the couple failed to register their marriage within the prescribed period was finally dismissed after renowned human rights activist Ansar Burney made appeals with the Prime Minister and Governor of Sindh.

The (EX) Prime Minister, Mohammad Khan Junejo and The (Ex) Governor of Sindh, Mr Justice (Retd) Fakhruddin G. Ebrahim stayed the execution on the Appeals made by the Ansar Burney Welfare Trust International.

Lal Mai was not so fortunate. In 1983 she was publicly flogged for adultery, before a crowd of 5000 spectators.

In this year 2002 'Stoning to Death' sentence was passed by the Additional District and Session Judge, Kohat to a lady Zafran Bi Bi (28) and appeal of 'Ansar Burney Welfare Trust International' is pending before the Federal Shariat Court for justice.

Zafran Bibi was raped, but a Pakistan judge decided it was adultery - now this young mother will be stoned to death​

Zafran Bibi walked into the police station in the village of Kerri Sheikhan, deep in the valleys of Pakistan's North West Frontier, and gave a harrowing account of how she had been raped by a neighbour.

Medical tests were ordered, witnesses questioned and a trial was held. Defence lawyers were called in. But Pakistan's archaic legal system, a mix of secular and Islamic codes, offers little protection for women.

Bibi, 28, was convicted of adultery under Islamic laws which many regard as deeply prejudicial. Last month, a year after she reported the ****, a judge sentenced her to death by stoning.

For several weeks the young mother has lived in solitary confinement in a death cell behind the redbrick walls of Kohat jail nursing her seven-month old daughter. An appeal will be heard before an Islamic court in Islamabad later this month.

Her case has exposed the empty promises of Pakistan's military regime, which has committed itself to improving women's rights and countering religious extremism. General Pervez Musharraf, the military ruler, knew nothing about the case until he was questioned by foreign journalists last week. 'Is that the law?' he asked. 'Now? I don't even know.'

He was asked if he planned to reform the adultery laws, introduced in 1979 in a wave of Islamisation led by the last military dictator, Zia-ul Haq. 'Frankly, I haven't given it such deep thought, let me admit,' said Musharraf.

The urbane general, sitting in his lavish office in Islamabad, insisted Bibi would not be executed. But hundreds more women who have reported rapes are held in jail under the same adultery law.

It appears Bibi was used by relatives caught up in a family feud, and her husband claims she suffered from poor legal advice. Her account of what happened has never been heard. In remote villages such as Kerri Sheikhan, the word of a young, uneducated mother counts for little.

On the morning of 26 March last year Bibi went to the village police station with her father-in-law, Zabita Khan, and said she had been raped while cutting grass outside the village. She named Akmal Khan, a villager involved in a long-running dispute with her family, as her attacker. At the time, her husband was in jail for murder.

Bibi was examined by a doctor and found to be seven to eight weeks pregnant, a fact that appears to have convinced the judge she was guilty of adultery. She later insisted that the baby was conceived during a conjugal visit to her husband in jail.

Last October the trial opened and Bibi appeared in court in Kohat wearing a faded yellow burqa, the all-enveloping cloak the Taliban forced women to wear in Afghanistan. She recorded a statement repeating the claim of **** and again naming Akmal Khan. But at the next hearing she said her father-in-law had pressured her into making the accusation. In a new statement, she named her brother-in-law Jamal, 15, as the rapist.

The judge acquitted Akmal Khan, the man first accused. But no investigation was ordered into the new accusation and Jamal was never arrested. The judge ruled the medical evidence showed no signs of force and her pregnancy was evidence of adultery. 'Resultantly, I hereby convict and sentence the accused Zafran Bibi to stoning to death and that she be stoned to death at a public place,' Judge Anwar Ali Khan wrote in his final judgment.

Her lawyers were stunned. In the court at Kohat last week they were still arguing over the case. 'She has never confessed her guilt. There is no case against her,' said Sardar Ali, one of her original defence lawyers. 'I think it was mishandled by a relative of this lady. She never stated she committed adultery.'

Under the Offence of Zina Ordinance, which covers both **** and adultery under the Islamic code, a conviction requires either a confession from the accused or evidence from four witnesses to the crime who are Muslim men who 'abstain from major sins'. Frequently, when **** is not proven, women are charged with adultery. As a result, most rapes are never reported, even though the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan estimates that every two hours a woman in the country is raped.

In Bibi's case, the judge ruled the fact that she changed her statement to name a new attacker was a confession of adultery.

'She made herself guilty in that statement when she clearly admits she had committed zina [adultery] with her brother-in-law,' said Kurshid Anwar, a prosecutor in the case. 'There was no mark of violence on her body. It was the right decision as long as the law exists.' Later Anwar admitted he favoured 'modernisation' of the law. 'Women suffer more because of our customs,' he said.

Outside Kohat jail last week Bibi's husband, Naimat Khan, and his two sons, Israr, nine, and Rehman, six, tried to arrange a visit to his wife. His children were allowed in, but he was not. Several minutes later, her sons returned with beaming smiles, clutch ing a small purple fan their mother had made them.

'The defence lawyers told us this would be an easy case. Then they told my wife if she didn't change her statement she would be tied to a pole and soldiers would throw stones at her,' said Naimat Khan, 40, a poor farmer who makes less than £400 a year from his fields. In an affidavit written for the appeal hearing, Bibi again pleaded her innocence. 'I have not committed zina with anybody,' she said. 'I have not confessed any guilt.'

While Bibi's conviction may be overturned on appeal later this month, it is clear the military regime, despite its promise to eradicate fundamentalism, is unwilling to reform the Islamic laws for fear of angering the religious Right.

'She is not the first case and she is not going to be the last,' said Afrasiab Khattak, chairman of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan. 'If General Musharraf really wants to do away with extremism, then there is no alternative to doing away with the structures created by Zia, which include the so-called Islamic laws.

'Even if Zafran Bibi returns to her village now, the stigma is so severe that it will be a very harsh life for her and her children.'

 

[HAIDER]

Agree with Agno..its Gilani public opinion diversion tactic ..sham PPP getting pressure to dissolve govt for its nil achievement from last many years...

 

[JonAsad]

Now India got the UNSC seat, and Pakistan voted in favor of India..

SO are the two news related?
Obama's pitch: Fix Kashmir for UN Security Council seat

 

[Kinetic]

‘We would never step back from our principles’

Thats good for India.

But the reality is this will not bring an inch of Kashmir to Pakistan other than hostility with India. LoC is settled. There are some who want to be with Pakistan but there are many who want to be with India as well. Its proved in elections.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani today said the international community had accepted Pakistan's stand on the Kashmir issue and people would soon hear "good news" in this regard.

International community means some members of OIC? lol All of them together can't change the thing other than some talks. None of them even raised the Kashmir when ever there was a bilateral meeting with India.

 

[Zeluvaa]

Now India got the UNSC seat, and Pakistan voted in favor of India..

SO are the two news related?
Obama's pitch: Fix Kashmir for UN Security Council seat

The above link speaks of UNSC permanent seat. The one India got, which Pakistan voted for, is not a permanent one and thus irrelevant.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Dont drink and post buddy....... its hazardous....

I presume you don't drink. The quality of your sober posts is a matter of worry then.

 

[sasuke]

If there were any mass graves, I think world media would have made a big fuss out of it. Can someone post a credible link which give evidence to the mass graves.

There's a difference being uneducated and being dumb. I see a pattern here!

 

[Coltsfan]

http://www.MarkTheTruth.com

The source on the pic in article says "Unknown"

hallmark of a "reliable" source

Anyhow, Geelani is free to ask for whatever he wants.

 

[notsuperstitious]

If there were any mass graves, I think world media would have made a big fuss out of it. Can someone post a credible link which give evidence to the mass graves.

There's a difference being uneducated and being dumb. I see a pattern here!

Yes there are unnamed graves.

Now there are 9 somewhere in Maharashtra too - the heroes from mumbai attacks. They got what they came for, now its time for the maatam drama.