Kashmir issue is internationally recognised dispute: OIC

[B.K.N]

they should start work on strategies to give "pain" to india

What you mean by pain if you are talking about military response then it's not the job of foreign office
Government is doing what it can

 

[Crusher]

What you mean by pain if you are talking about military response then it's not the job of foreign office
Government is doing what it can

Pakistan gave india a "severe pain" to india throughout the 90s and it used to be fun to watch indian TV news and shows that how helpless they used to be against Pakistan. In short it was the reverse position of what we see today where Pakistan is ++}ed up and you can see the helplessness and Indians are having fun.

 

[B.K.N]

Pakistan gave india a "severe pain" to india throughout the 90s and it used to be fun to watch indian TV news and shows that how helpless they used to be against Pakistan.

Pakistan of 2019 is much better than Pakistan of 90s
And foreign office is doing it's job diplomacy is job of foreign office and military action is job of Pak army and PAF and generals and politicians are not afraid of death because they are not going to die in case of war they'll be sitting in safe bunkers if they are afraid of death and destruction then it means they value the lives of Pakistani soldiers and common people

 

[Crusher]

Pakistan of 2019 is much better than Pakistan of 90s

No it is NOT, in international arena Pakistan of 90s was a dignified country, Pakistan of 2019 is a humiliated country. I have lived through both phases so I am talking from the first hand experience.

generals and politicians are not afraid of death because they are not going to die in case of war they'll be sitting in safe bunkers if they are afraid of death and destruction then it means they value the lives of Pakistani soldiers and common people

Yes they will be very safe in their bunkers just like Saddam Hussain and Qaddafi.

 

[B.K.N]

international arena Pakistan of 90s was a dignified country,

Maybe because from 1977 to 1988 general Zia ul Haq ruled Pakistan and it was the due to his rule
Nawaz and Benazir destroyed Pakistan in 90s and then Zardari and Nawaz from 2008 to 2018 now Imran Khan is trying to make Pakistan great again

 

[Crusher]

Maybe because from 1977 to 1988 general Zia ul Haq ruled Pakistan and it was the due to his rule
Nawaz and Benazir destroyed Pakistan in 90s and then Zardari and Nawaz from 2008 to 2018 now Imran Khan is trying to make Pakistan great again

Only one guy has ruined Pakistan's dignity once and for all and that is POS called General Musharraf, that is the guy who took "charge" of Pakistan at the end of 1999 and early 2000s, he has caused such an irreversible damage in the mindset of Pakistan's military that after him our military has lost any sense of "fighting spirit" and "appetite" to take wars in the territory of your enemies, they are just zombies now compared to what our military used to be before Musharraf's regime. I have no high expectations from this Bajwa guy.

 

[B.K.N]

Yes they will be very safe in their bunkers just like Saddam Hussain and Qaddafi.

India is not USA or France and Pakistan is not Iraq or Libya
I thought you are talking about India Pakistan so you were talking about Pakistan vs USA

 

[Crusher]

India is not USA or France and Pakistan is not Iraq or Libya
I thought you are talking about India Pakistan so you were talking about Pakistan vs USA

US is in the process of attacking Pakistan using India, India is doing nothing against Pakistan militarily without the covert approval of US, so it is US + India against Pakistan. And that is what we have got after that POS called Musharraf was sitting in the lap of Americans for 8 years and gave them open license to abuse Pakistani territory for their campaigns in Afghanistan post 9/11.

 

[B.K.N]

Only one guy has ruined Pakistan's dignity once and for all and that is POS called General Musharraf,

The man who captured Kargil even if it wasn't a success but at least he tried
I know you'll call it a blunder
If Musharaf is traitor then entire 207 million population is traitor including you

US is attacking Pakistan using India,

And you want Pakistan to fight against US and it's issue of 2 third world countries Americans don't care about Pakistan
But Pakistanis care a lot about America

By giving examples of Qadaffi and Saddam you are saying Pakistanis will side with India in case of war and would kill Pakistani politicians and generals
Just like Libyans killed Qaddafi or Iraqis hanged Saddam Hussain

 

[BringHarmony]

I was in downtown Vancouver the other day. There is an Indian embassy. There was some celebration going on. There were 2-3 sikhs carrying some kashmir related placards or banners. Indians were jeering and laughing at them while entering the consulate. Poor sods looked like homeless beggers than protesters.

Kashmir is not looking like a topic of discussion around here in Canada or US public discourse. Actually hong kong is more actively discussed issue.

 

[Reddington]

No it is NOT, in international arena Pakistan of 90s was a dignified country, Pakistan of 2019 is a humiliated country. I have lived through both phases so I am talking from the first hand experience.

Totally agreed. Even though in the 90s Benazir and Nawaz Sharif corrupt governments were ruling us but our establishment at that time had the balls. Pakistan fully supported Kashmir freedom movement. When the entire world was against Taliban we fully helped them and recognized their rule when entire world refused to recognize them barring few gulf countries. Even at that time our economy was also not good.

But today coward mentality is ruling us.

 

[B.K.N]

When the entire world was against Taliban we fully helped them and recognized their rule

World turned against them in 2001 US Saudi Arabia and UAE they all were pro Taliban only third world countries like India were against Taliban
Economically militarily and leadership wise Pakistan is much better than 90 and 80s

 

[Crusher]

And you want Pakistan to fight against US and it's issue of 2 third world countries Americans don't care about Pakistan
But Pakistanis care a lot about America

That is Amercian style of wars, it makes others to fight their wars, it is America + India VS China + Pakistan in this war. India and Pakistan are two 3rd world countries but US and China are NOT.

But today coward mentality is ruling us.

It is the result of Musharraf's irreversible damage to the fighting spirit of Pakistani military. I often feel we may need to dismantle the current military establishment and create a fresh one because the existing establishment has been damaged "irreversibly" by Musharraf, so I don't have any hope of recovery for the current structure/mindset of establishment. The mindsets/spirits/feelings of dignity are very hard to reinstate in the same entity once damaged irreversibly.

 

[Enigma SIG]

These resolutions are just to pacify Pakistan's increasingly vocal demands from the international community.
As the topmost Muslim block; OIC member should block all trade with immediate effect if they want to be heard globally. That would earn them respect from Pakistan and internationally as well.

 

[bafxet]

OIC wont get us anything better leave.