Kashmir issue is internationally recognised dispute: OIC

[PaulSimon]

Airspace ban should have been done but I see that Government may have some reasons to delaying as such or may be we are not much aware but one thing for sure is; there are International Players and a set of rule that direct ban without any plausible reason except that in protest of Kashmir, may not be acknowledged widely. Remember that we can't put such sanctions without any major reason like we had in Feb, 2019. I can be wrong in regard to legal obligations but to me, seems the case hence, government must be working on some thing in this regard for maximum pressure building.

The question is if Pakistan does not have diplomatic relations with Israel to support the cause of the Palestines why does Pakistan maintain diplomatic relations with India?

Does Pakistanis care more about Palestine than Kashmir?

I fully support Pakistan severing all relations with India with immediate effect.

Pakistan should sever all its relations with India, recall all Pakistan diplomats from India and withdraw from all bilateral agreements with India (Simla agreement, Lahore declaration etc.)

This step by Pakistan will end the position taken by India that all issues between India and Pakistan will be handled bilaterally.

Once Pakistan has no direct relations with India, then all matters between India and Pakistan will require mediation by majors powers of the world.

This means Kashmir issue would be internationalized by default.

 

[The Accountant]

There's no point in bilateral talks and even IK has said no to that. You need to be more aggressive if you want be heard..

Agreed on aggressive part.

India has put this as its condition. What would be Pakistan's conditions for talks? I agree with PMIK. There is no room for talks with India.


Talks with Pakistan now will only be about ***, says Rajnath Singh

https://www.livemint.com/news/india/talks-with-pakistan-only-on-pakistan-occupied-kashmir-rajnath-singh-1566112900780.html


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Your minister can say whatever he wish. Do you really think this is going to happen ?

 

[war&peace]

i shared it before even mentioned mods but i think either its not whole thing or they are busy.. we need to bust people mindset that we live in a world.. unlike modi who thinks he can govern Delhi like Gujrat.

Mods are not policy makers in GoP. 99 km above the sea level is the sovereign airspace.. furthermore when your enemy is disregarding all established norms and rules... you can't fool the nation with such lame excuses..
Listen USSR never allowed flights over its territory. I remember Shaikh Rasheed was disembarked from a flight to Canada because of US objections since the flight flew above the US territory briefly.

 

[PaulSimon]

Agreed on aggressive part.


Your minister can say whatever he wish. Do you really think this is going to happen ?

The question is why is Pakistan not saying that the talks with India would be only be on Jammu & Kashmir & Ladkh?

I find it strange that Pakistanis are supporting the weak position being taken by its leadership.

 

[Lincoln]

WTF.. @RIWWIR check this crap by this dastardly character while IK has categorically said there will be no more talks with India

The interview is there on the Internet, Dawn posted that too, he publicly said it. What sre you on?

The question is if Pakistan does not have diplomatic relations with Israel to support the cause of the Palestines why does Pakistan maintain diplomatic relations with India?

Does Pakistanis care more about Palestine than Kashmir?

I fully support Pakistan severing all relations with India with immediate effect.

Pakistan should sever all its relations with India, recall all Pakistan diplomats from India and withdraw from all bilateral agreements with India (Simla agreement, Lahore declaration etc.)

This step by Pakistan will end the position taken by India that all issues between India and Pakistan will be handled bilaterally.

Once Pakistan has no direct relations with India, then all matters between India and Pakistan will require mediation by majors powers of the world.

This means Kashmir issue would be internationalized by default.

Things aren't as technical. Other countries have a say and influence. There is no "by default."

If all diplomacy and recognition is withdrawn, then logically you have to replace it with something else and then say that that something else is occupying Kashmir. Which is soundly dumb and pointless.

 

[The Eagle]

The question is if Pakistan does not have diplomatic relations with Israel to support the cause of the Palestines why does Pakistan maintain diplomatic relations with India?

Does Pakistanis care more about Palestine than Kashmir?

I fully support Pakistan severing all relations with India with immediate effect.

Pakistan should sever all its relations with India, recall all Pakistan diplomats from India and withdraw from all bilateral agreements with India (Simla agreement, Lahore declaration etc.)

This step by Pakistan will end the position taken by India that all issues between India and Pakistan will be handled bilaterally.

Once Pakistan has no direct relations with India, then all matters between India and Pakistan will require mediation by majors powers of the world.

This means Kashmir issue would be internationalized by default.

To update you in regard to too much flaws in your post as well as old dated & incorrect information that you put; its like I have to start again like 4 years ago.

We did not recognize Israel. Now search the matter and understand.

Palestine & Kashmir are different issues in regard to geography however, occupiers are same in view of mentality and barbarianism. Kashmir is bilateral matter whereby, Palestine is not bilateral for us directly.

Pakistan already ousted Indian diplomat and called our back since 23 days ago.

Simla agreement & Lahore declarations are the hard evidence of India's agreement to Kashmir status as disputed territory beside UNSC resolution hence, either try to fool someone else or you are too much blank in these matters. If you don't know like the latter, will advise you to spend some days reading the matter with care by different sources and then come here to post which will greatly help you to update yourself and also, saving the times of many including me.

Kashmir issue is already internationalized but you are failing to see that due to possible tunnel vision or being isolated under nationalism and again, you are too late hence, you needed a lot of update. To help you with this, I am thread banning you initially and if continue with the same ignorance; will definitely take further action.

Regards,

The question is why is Pakistan not saying that the talks with India would be only be on Jammu & Kashmir & Ladkh?

I find it strange that Pakistanis are supporting the weak position being taken by its leadership.

We have no ambition to divide Kashmir in few areas but the whole Kashmir contrary to Indian efforts that want us to violate territorial shape. The whole Kashmir will be discussed provided with their right of determination under UNSC resolution. Such shortsighted approach is already been demonstrated by India hence, Modi Nazi is in hot waters due to growing international pressure. Just the latest one...

 

[Goenitz]

Mods are not policy makers in GoP. 99 km above the sea level is the sovereign airspace.. furthermore when your enemy is disregarding all established norms and rules... you can't fool the nation with such lame excuses..
Listen USSR never allowed flights over its territory. I remember Shaikh Rasheed was disembarked from a flight to Canada because of US objections since the flight flew above the US territory briefly.

Fair enough.. but sovereign doesn't mean we can close at our will as companies/countries depend on that. Russia can do and also US... who can stop them...

 

[war&peace]

The interview is there on the Internet, Dawn posted that too, he publicly said it. What sre you on?

Who told you it is not on internet? Nice attempt to seek my attention .. try again

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Islamabad once again offered conditional talks to New Delhi in connection with IOK if the Modi government lifts the curfew, release arrested leaders and cease human rights violations in the occupied valley.

If I read this right, What a grade A idiot IK is. We should only offer talks if the abrogation of 370 is revoked. Why is IK moving the goalposts on behalf of Modi? Wtf is going on??

The question is why is Pakistan not saying that the talks with India would be only be on Jammu & Kashmir & Ladkh?

I find it strange that Pakistanis are supporting the weak position being taken by its leadership.

Ermm you're right. But I'm against the weak position.

 

[The Accountant]

The question is why is Pakistan not saying that the talks with India would be only be on Jammu & Kashmir & Ladkh?

I find it strange that Pakistanis are supporting the weak position being taken by its leadership.

Because you are dumb. When we are talking about disputed territory and IOK then we are talking about jammu kashmir as people of azad kashmiri r happy with us...

 

[TNT]

As usual dumb fanboys would say this is just words and would expect others to solve all ur problems lolz.

 

[ghazi52]

 

[doorstar]

Speaking to BBC Urdu earlier in the day, Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi hinted that the government had no issue with the resumption of bilateral talks with India while third-party mediation would also be welcomed in this regard.

he said:

No talks with India before curfew in occupied Kashmir is lifted
Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi said that Pakistan could hold talks with India over the issue of occupied Kashmir if New Delhi meets certain conditions, including allowing him to meet with the Kashmiri leadership.

the tribune posted their own version of it

 

[SingHee]

It's just all diplomatic talk from here on, and meaningless in real terms.

 

[Crusher]

Pakistani government should stop this BS of diplomacy, they should start working on strategies to give "pain" to india by all kinds of means. India is not going to stop before it starts feeling "pain" as it used to face during 90s. That is the only solution. Government and establishment needs to just stop this diplomatic BS.

All those who are in positions of power in pakistani power corridors and establishement, these days only one thought comes to my mind abou them

"Kaam kay na kaaj kay, Salay dushman anaj kay"

Just look at the size of their "annual budgets" and then look at their cowardice and "performance" when the call of duty is constantly knocking at their doors.