Kashmir India’s internal matter: Bangladesh Foreign Minister tells Pak FM

[airmarshal]

The Pakistan FM did call his counterpart in Dhaka but I dont think he got the response he expected. So not surprising. The woman ruling Bangladesh is very anti Pakistan. Nothing should be expected from current government in Dhaka as its an Indian as* kisser.

 

[SIPRA]

SHW won't be here forever.
The rift is great yes.But not permanent.Example: Virtually everyone of BD people supports Pakistan in Kashmir issue. Even the so called liberal & seculars.
Our heroes of 71 is your traitors & vice versa.Also true.But it has been about 48 years since then.We MUST move on & move forward.The people of Pakistan are my brothers as much as my own brother is.We are Muslims & just for that we will always be targeted by our enemies. Do you want to face them alone?Or side by side with your brothers?

Appreciate your sentiments. At least, I don't think that your heroes are our traitors. Separation of East and West Pakistan, as independent and sovereign countries, could have been carried out, in a peaceful manner, without any intervention of India; but those, ruling the Pakistan, at that time, could not fully perceive it correctly, as well as, could not gather enough courage, to execute it with mutual consensus. I don't consider Sheikh Mujib ur Rehman, a traitor; though I don't like him as politician, for other reasons.

 

[VikingRaider]

At least I don't think that your heroes are our traitors.

@RIWWIR Thank you buddy . If only most of Pakistani brothers and sisters think like you , Bangladesh and Pakistan can be most brotherly nations again in Muslim Ummah .Actually Mutual respect is the base of such relationship . respect to you .

I don't consider Sheikh Mujib ur Rehman, a traitor; though I don't like him as politician, for other reasons.

 

[SIPRA]

Mate , IMO ,you are wasting your time . Dog's tail can never be straight . Some people will never learn. They will keep showing snobbish attitude . Just try some days , you will finally realize like me .

They do not believe in brotherhood , but most of them ( at least in this forum ) believe that brother hood is similar to accept their fake supremacy attitude .

I believe this is the reason Pakistan was broken 48 years ago . Search some other threads , you will learn how some of their irrelevant posts are still there in some other kahsmir threads. Anyway it's their forum , so they are infallible I accepted this reality long ago . . So most of time I don't bother wasting my time on them anymore . few are still very good though I must admit .

Don't discourage him. A good emotion and sentiment is, in itself, its own reward. I am a Pakistani and I have nothing against the people of Bangladesh.

 

[VikingRaider]

Don't discourage him. A good emotion and sentiment is, in itself, its own reward. I am a Pakistani and I have nothing against the people of Bangladesh.

Mate I am not discouraging him because I want him to stop,but I am actually just too much disheartened , you probably understood the reason . Let's hope for the best . Lets pray for the maturity of the peoples of this two countries .

 

[SIPRA]

Yes, you're right that many Pakistani posters' attitude in here leaves much to be desired. Not just the normal posters, but also many of the staff of the forum administration as well.
But I still have hopes.Maybe it's because I'm young & not as experienced as you & the other senior members are.
Call me naive.But I believe in Islamic brotherhood.I believe one day we'll be able to settle our differences & fight against our enemies as one.

Don't worry. I am an old man and have same sentiments, as you.

 

[VikingRaider]

Don't worry. I am an old man and have same sentiments, as you.

But what about the new generation brother ? They are too much arrogant ! Not only Pakistan but in Bangladesh as well! Compromise and move on is an art and they looks to stubborn to understand it !

 

[SIPRA]

@RIWWIR Thank you buddy . If only most of Pakistani brothers and sisters think like you , Bangladesh and Pakistan can be most brotherly nations again in Muslim Ummah .Actually Mutual respect is the base of such relationship . respect to you .

Thanks and regards to you. Let us hope for the best.

 

[Nasr]

Kashmir India’s internal matter: Bangladesh Foreign Minister tells Pak FM

Bangladesh is an independent country, if their government's sentiments reflect that of the people of Bangladesh, then that is their choice and Pakistan holds no ill-will against Bangladesh for it's stance on Kashmir.

Having said that, Pakistan must continue to push Kashmir forward on the International Stage. Pakistan's Foreign Office has to apply a "round-house" diplomatic strategy on Kashmir Dispute. Using all our allances to bare and ensuring that we have all pressure points using conventional International Law, as well as use tactics of unconventional nature. The Foreign Office ought to take a leaf out of Inter-Service's play-book. F.O must seek tactics to "blindside" in diplomacy.

Pakistan has the means, the brain-power and the alliances to accomplish the mission on making the world recognize Kashmir as a disputed territory and India's actions as illegal.

Pakistan must also recognize that this is a fight where we will up against not just India's lobbies, but the collective force of Israel, Britain and America, on the diplomatic front. This is a fight against all odds, a fight we must win on the diplomatic front.

Do not have any expectations from others. This is OUR fight and it is a fight we MUST & WILL WIN, in-sha-Allah. And when we win, the world will learn to respect Pakistan. We have Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah's Rahma with us, so long as we remain to true to HIM.

 

[Sehnsucht]

Appreciate your sentiments. At least, I don't think that your heroes are our traitors. Separation of East and West Pakistan, as independent and sovereign countries, could have been carried out, in a peaceful manner, without any intervention of India; but those, ruling the Pakistan, at that time, could not fully perceive it correctly, as well as, could not gather enough courage, to execute it with mutual consensus.

I wholeheartedly agree with you.Partition of East & West Pakistan was a matter of time. But it should have happened mutually with scope for economic & military cooperation as brothers & allies. And that would have been the best for all of the Muslims of the subcontinent. Can you imagine India being able to do what it's doing if it had two hostile united Muslim nations at it's borders? Not even the sanghis & their ilk would have dared to do what it has done & still doing in Kashmir.

I don't consider Sheikh Mujib ur Rehman, a traitor; though I don't like him as politician, for other reasons.

Sheikh Mujib ur Rehman was a great leader of people. But sadly not a good politician, or a skilled administrator either.He was surrounded by traitors & backstabbers.Perhaps that was the reason for his failings.

 

[VikingRaider]

I wholeheartedly agree with you.Partition of East & West Pakistan was a matter of time. But it should have happened mutually with scope for economic & military cooperation as brothers & allies. And that would have been the best for all of the Muslims of the subcontinent. Can you imagine India being able to do what it's doing if it had two hostile united Muslim nations at it's borders? Not even the sanghis & their ilk would have dared to do what it has done & still doing in Kashmir.


Sheikh Mujib ur Rehman was a great leader of people. But sadly not a good politician, or a skilled administrator either.He was surrounded by traitors & backstabbers.Perhaps that was the reason for his failings.

Hundred percent agree !

 

[SIPRA]

But what about the new generation brother ? They are too much arrogant ! Not only Pakistan but in Bangladesh as well! Compromise and move on is an art and they looks to stubborn to understand it !

I think that it should be rather easier for the younger generation; since they have not experienced the separation of Bangladesh from Pakistan, themselves, as people like me have. I believe that the current reason, for the negative views of most of the Pakistani posters, in this regard, is owing to the closeness of Bangladesh government to India. People generally fail to distinguish between a government and the people of a country. Still, let us hope for the best.

 

[Sehnsucht]

But what about the new generation brother ? They are too much arrogant ! Not only Pakistan but in Bangladesh as well! Compromise and move on is an art and they looks to stubborn to understand it !

There's still hope sir.At 19 years old, I'm part of the new generation as well.I'm not saying it make you feel old but to tell you that the young generation is changing. We're slowly waking up to the reality of what's happening to us, our nations, our enemies. So InshaAllah there's hope for a better future for all of us.

 

[VikingRaider]

I think that it should be rather easier for the younger generation; since they have not experienced the separation of Bangladesh from Pakistan, themselves, as people like me have. I believe that the current reason, for the negative views of most of the Pakistani posters, in this regard, is owing to the closeness of Bangladesh government to India. People generally fail to distinguish between a government and the people of a country. Still, let us hope for the best.

Inshallah . Maybe all misunderstanding will he end soon . After all both side have glorious history and fair share together to establish Independent Muslim country in this region . If the Muslims are surviving in this region , this is only because of two nation theory . And the kashmir incident once again speaking loudly about the necessityof two nation theory !

 

[SIPRA]

I wholeheartedly agree with you.Partition of East & West Pakistan was a matter of time. But it should have happened mutually with scope for economic & military cooperation as brothers & allies. And that would have been the best for all of the Muslims of the subcontinent. Can you imagine India being able to do what it's doing if it had two hostile united Muslim nations at it's borders? Not even the sanghis & their ilk would have dared to do what it has done & still doing in Kashmir.

Fully agree with you.

Sheikh Mujib ur Rehman was a great leader of people. But sadly not a good politician, or a skilled administrator either.He was surrounded by traitors & backstabbers.Perhaps that was the reason for his failings.

My comment about Sheikh Sahib was not about his politics, after establishment of Bangladesh, but before that, from 1967 to 1971. But, let us leave it at that.