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Kashmir all-party meet: Modi discusses atrocities in Azad Kashmir, Balochistan

So Why Do you expect We Care What pakistan Has to say.Who buys your version no one
I don't care what you and your kind says or think,I already told you to log out and leave for good but no sadists like you have a mental obsession with Pakistan. If you really don't care then log out and leave already. :lol:
 
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Screw any other people or countries. Answer my question, WHY did India, the "largest democracy on earth" (as you guys sing the song to the Americans about democracy), ignored the majority vote in Kashmir in 1947 (91% Muslim majority voted against India)!! And decided to take over the state and have killed millions there since?

Don't point fingers to Pakistan, the Ghosts or the Angels. We are ALL responsible for our actions. I've posted pictures of 10 year old boys getting beat up, arrested, because they want India out. They did that through vote. How do you try to show yourself as a democratic nation and blatantly butcher and murder millions of people who, for the past 70 years, didn't want to be with you to begin with????? Here's a resolution from 1949 by the UN. Then, there was one in 1960 asking India to hold elections like 1947 and give this state back to her people so THEY can decide through VOTE as to if they want India around. They didn't in 1947 and they don't today. They want their own state and 91% of the majority had voted for it!!!!

Here, read the UN resolution that India never wanted to accept or adhere to. 6A and B are common sense and explain the entire thing the UN wanted to do, to resolve it. 6B was created primarily to tell the Indian Army and other political personnel to leave!!


Resolution of 13 August 1948:

1. The question of the accession of the State of Jammu and Kashmir to India or Pakistan will be decided through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite;

2. A plebiscite will be held when it shall be found by the Commission that the cease-fire and truce arrangements set forth in Parts I and II of the Commission's resolution of 13 August 1948 have been carried out and arrangements for the plebiscite have been completed;

3.
(a) The Secretary-General of the United Nations will, in agreement with the Commission, nominate a Plebiscite Administrator who shall be a personality of high international standing and commanding general confidence. He will be formally appointed to office by the Government of Jammu and Kashmir.

(b) The Plebiscite Administrator shall derive from the State of Jammu and Kashmir the powers he considers necessary for organizing and conducting the plebiscite and for ensuring the freedom and impartiality of the plebiscite.

(c) The Plebiscite Administrator shall have authority to appoint such staff of assistants and observes as he may require.

4.
(a) After implementation of Parts I and II of the Commission's resolution of 13 August 1948, and when the Commission is satisfied that peaceful conditions have been restored in the State, the Commission and the Plebiscite Administrator will determine, in consultation with the Government of India, the final disposal of Indian and State armed forces, such disposal to be with due regard to the security of the State and the freedom of the plebiscite.

(b) As regards the territory referred to in A.2 of Part II of the resolution of 13 August, final disposal of the armed forces in that territory will be determined by the Commission and the Plebiscite Administrator in consultation with the local authorities.

5. All civil and military authorities within the State and the principal political elements of the State will be required to co-operate with the Plebiscite Administrator in the preparation for the holding of the plebiscite.

6.
(a) All citizens of the State who have left it on account of the disturbances will be invited and be free to return and to exercise all their rights as such citizens. For the purpose of facilitating repatriation there shall be appointed two Commissions, one composed of nominees of India and the other of nominees of Pakistan. The Commission shall operate under the direction of the Plebiscite Administrator. The Governments of India and Pakistan and all authorities within the State of Jammu and Kashmir will collaborate with the Plebiscite Administrator in putting this provision into effect.

(b) All person (other than citizens of the State) who on or since 15 August 1947 have entered it for other than lawful purpose, shall be required to leave the State.

7. All authorities within the State of Jammu and Kashmir will undertake to ensure, in collaboration with the Plebiscite Administrator, that:

(a) There is no threat, coercion or intimidation, bribery or other undue influence on the voters in the plebiscite;

(b) No restrictions are placed on legitimate political activity throughout the State. All subjects of the State, regardless of creed, caste or party, shall be safe and free in expressing their views and in voting on the question of the accession of the State to India or Pakistan. There shall be freedom of the press, speech and assembly and freedom of travel in the State, including freedom of lawful entry and exit;

(c) All political prisoners are released;

(d) Minorities in all parts of the State are accorded adequate protection; and

(e) There is no victimization.

8. The Plebiscite Administrator may refer to the United Nations Commission for India and Pakistan problems on which he may require assistance, and the Commission may in its discretion call upon the Plebiscite Administrator to carry out on its behalf any of the responsibilities with which it has been entrusted;

9. At the conclusion of the plebiscite, the Plebiscite Administrator shall report the result thereof to the Commission and to the Government of Jammu and Kashmir. The Commission shall then certify to the Security Council whether the plebiscite has or has not been free and impartial;

10. Upon the signature of the truce agreement the details of the foregoing proposals will be elaborated in the consultations envisaged in Part III of the Commission's resolution of 13 August 1948. The Plebiscite Administrator will be fully associated in these consultations;

Commends the Governments of India and Pakistan for their prompt action in ordering a cease-fire to take effect from one minute before midnight of 1 January 1949, pursuant to the agreement arrived at as provided for by the Commission's Resolution of 13 August 1948; and

Resolves to return in the immediate future to the Sub-continent to discharge the responsibilities imposed upon it by the Resolution of 13 August 1948 and by the foregoing principles.

Resolution of 13 August 1948:

1. The question of the accession of the State of Jammu and Kashmir to India or Pakistan will be decided through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite;

2. A plebiscite will be held when it shall be found by the Commission that the cease-fire and truce arrangements set forth in Parts I and II of the Commission's resolution of 13 August 1948 have been carried out and arrangements for the plebiscite have been completed;

3.
(a) The Secretary-General of the United Nations will, in agreement with the Commission, nominate a Plebiscite Administrator who shall be a personality of high international standing and commanding general confidence. He will be formally appointed to office by the Government of Jammu and Kashmir.

(b) The Plebiscite Administrator shall derive from the State of Jammu and Kashmir the powers he considers necessary for organizing and conducting the plebiscite and for ensuring the freedom and impartiality of the plebiscite.

(c) The Plebiscite Administrator shall have authority to appoint such staff of assistants and observes as he may require.

4.
(a) After implementation of Parts I and II of the Commission's resolution of 13 August 1948, and when the Commission is satisfied that peaceful conditions have been restored in the State, the Commission and the Plebiscite Administrator will determine, in consultation with the Government of India, the final disposal of Indian and State armed forces, such disposal to be with due regard to the security of the State and the freedom of the plebiscite.

(b) As regards the territory referred to in A.2 of Part II of the resolution of 13 August, final disposal of the armed forces in that territory will be determined by the Commission and the Plebiscite Administrator in consultation with the local authorities.

5. All civil and military authorities within the State and the principal political elements of the State will be required to co-operate with the Plebiscite Administrator in the preparation for the holding of the plebiscite.

6.
(a) All citizens of the State who have left it on account of the disturbances will be invited and be free to return and to exercise all their rights as such citizens. For the purpose of facilitating repatriation there shall be appointed two Commissions, one composed of nominees of India and the other of nominees of Pakistan. The Commission shall operate under the direction of the Plebiscite Administrator. The Governments of India and Pakistan and all authorities within the State of Jammu and Kashmir will collaborate with the Plebiscite Administrator in putting this provision into effect.

(b) All person (other than citizens of the State) who on or since 15 August 1947 have entered it for other than lawful purpose, shall be required to leave the State.

7. All authorities within the State of Jammu and Kashmir will undertake to ensure, in collaboration with the Plebiscite Administrator, that:

(a) There is no threat, coercion or intimidation, bribery or other undue influence on the voters in the plebiscite;

(b) No restrictions are placed on legitimate political activity throughout the State. All subjects of the State, regardless of creed, caste or party, shall be safe and free in expressing their views and in voting on the question of the accession of the State to India or Pakistan. There shall be freedom of the press, speech and assembly and freedom of travel in the State, including freedom of lawful entry and exit;

(c) All political prisoners are released;

(d) Minorities in all parts of the State are accorded adequate protection; and

(e) There is no victimization.

8. The Plebiscite Administrator may refer to the United Nations Commission for India and Pakistan problems on which he may require assistance, and the Commission may in its discretion call upon the Plebiscite Administrator to carry out on its behalf any of the responsibilities with which it has been entrusted;

9. At the conclusion of the plebiscite, the Plebiscite Administrator shall report the result thereof to the Commission and to the Government of Jammu and Kashmir. The Commission shall then certify to the Security Council whether the plebiscite has or has not been free and impartial;

10. Upon the signature of the truce agreement the details of the foregoing proposals will be elaborated in the consultations envisaged in Part III of the Commission's resolution of 13 August 1948. The Plebiscite Administrator will be fully associated in these consultations;

Commends the Governments of India and Pakistan for their prompt action in ordering a cease-fire to take effect from one minute before midnight of 1 January 1949, pursuant to the agreement arrived at as provided for by the Commission's Resolution of 13 August 1948; and

Resolves to return in the immediate future to the Sub-continent to discharge the responsibilities imposed upon it by the Resolution of 13 August 1948 and by the foregoing principles.

Dear Viper,

I don't give two hoots to this demon-possessed-crazy ideological society of arrogant people of this fake country called india by the british colonial power. I call it by its rightful name...subcontinental state.

You perhaps are equating me with the subcontinenal hinduians...Please, do not. It is offensive.

The hinduians are occupying South Tibet, north eastern states and host of other principalities they illegally occupied. Their crimes again humanity in Kashmir are the darkest. And longest.

Kindly, read my post if you please...then see where did I condone the hinduian crimes against humanity?

Take care.

Regards.
 
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It only took him about 2 and half years but it seems Modi is finally getting his Pakistan policy right. This is what I was expecting from him right from the beginning and not shaadi and b'day parties in Pakistan or inviting Pakistanis to an IAF base. Now I hope there is consistency in this position. There can be no friendship with Pakistan as long as PA controls the country because their rozi-roti depends on enmity with India. The sooner we realized that the better. I am fine with people to people contact and all that but at government level we should have a clear, consistent and strong policy.
your posts are a tonic for Indian forces that will go on world conquest. you should lead the charge.
 
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@PARIKRAMA @Joe Shearer @waz @Oscar This kind of post deserves positive ratings? Really?
I mean. Really?

Seriously U are only worried for the positive rating than whats inside the pic? I am like o_Oo_Oo_O This is a picture worth a thousand words. Remove the lens of biasedness and U ll find a thousand page true story compiled in just one pic. But ofcourse how can U feel the pain of those guys out there. Salutes.
 
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Seriously U are only worried for the positive rating than whats inside the pic? I am like o_Oo_Oo_O This is a picture worth a thousand words. Remove the lens of biasedness and U ll find a thousand page true story compiled in just one pic. But ofcourse how can U feel the pain of those guys out there. Salutes.

It was as hateful as u hate hindus. Now get a life.
 
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Screw any other people or countries. Answer my question, WHY did India, the "largest democracy on earth" (as you guys sing the song to the Americans about democracy), ignored the majority vote in Kashmir in 1947 (91% Muslim majority voted against India)!! And decided to take over the state and have killed millions there since?
When did this voting take place?
 
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It was as hateful as u hate hindus. Now get a life.

Let me tell U Mr that I love humanity and I ve got many Hindus under me right now whom I deal with utmost respect as they are good workers. So much so that just a few days back one of the hindu sanitary guy got his foot badly injured but his Egyptian manager wud not let him go. That prompted my action and not only I myself cleaned his wound till Doc arrived but also got him bed rest. Also got him free med as he is just a poor guy. I have got lots of such incidents around me and U have compelled me to state just this one.
 
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When he slept. He is usually drunk. As per his own claims. I suspect Korsakoff's confabulations. Forgive him. He has been ranting about it since 20 hours now
But you must agree that reading his posts are extreme fun :D
 
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But you must agree that reading his posts are extreme fun :D

He is supposedly someone who has 40 years of experience in 'international politics', yet can't appreciate the impact of convergence of geostrategic interests of US-India-Iran-Afghanistan on Pakistan-CPEC-China-SCS and in wider terms on Russia and Ukraine. Am tickled .. but these dot aged kids (if he is as old as he claims) are into pre-Alzheimer stage and can be testy.

@adil_minhas i am a lot of things. You don't want to know ..... Can chat up about your specialty of microbiology, can talk finance and business and yes, can discuss military related stuff, politics, etc etc. Perhaps a decently read guy will suffice??
 
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He is supposedly someone who has 40 years of experience in 'international politics', yet can't appreciate the impact of convergence of geostrategic interests of US-India-Iran-Afghanistan on Pakistan-CPEC-China-SCS and in wider terms on Russia and Ukraine. Am tickled .. but these dot aged kids (if he is as old as he claims) are into pre-Alzheimer stage and can be testy.

@adil_minhas i am a lot of things. You don't want to know ..... Can chat up about your specialty of microbiology, can talk finance and business and yes, can discuss military related stuff, politics, etc etc. Perhaps a decently read guy will suffice??

Ok sir. Sorry for probing.
 
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He is supposedly someone who has 40 years of experience in 'international politics', yet can't appreciate the impact of convergence of geostrategic interests of US-India-Iran-Afghanistan on Pakistan-CPEC-China-SCS and in wider terms on Russia and Ukraine. Am tickled .. but these dot aged kids (if he is as old as he claims) are into pre-Alzheimer stage and can be testy.

@adil_minhas i am a lot of things. You don't want to know ..... Can chat up about your specialty of microbiology, can talk finance and business and yes, can discuss military related stuff, politics, etc etc. Perhaps a decently read guy will suffice??
May be this is off topic here, but I would like to know about your opinion about the article by M.K Teng (Kashmir Dispute; the Faultlines).
 
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Ohhh... Mr calm and collected has his war mode on! Ooooo I'm getting goosebumps.....!!:flame::P

I must say you nailed it.

When he slept. He is usually drunk. As per his own claims. I suspect Korsakoff's confabulations. Forgive him. He has been ranting about it since 20 hours now
 
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May be this is off topic here, but I would like to know about your opinion about the article by M.K Teng (Kashmir Dispute; the Faultlines).

There is a thread on it. Stephen started it. I gave him the link. Better there

Ohhh... Mr calm and collected has his war mode on! Ooooo I'm getting goosebumps.....!!:flame::P

I must say you nailed it.

Long time! Where had you been lady?:cheers:
 
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