Karrar MBT l Updates, News & Discussion

[husseinibnali]

So t-72 tanks will be upgraded to Karrar standards right?

That means Karrar is not a completely new product but more like an upgrade programme!

 

[Nilgiri]

@Nilgiri

Pics looking really good bro. Really long gun.

Is the calibre 125 mm btw?

 

[SOHEIL]

Pics looking really good bro. Really long gun.

Is the calibre 125 mm btw?

No idea

 

[alihasani]

that's better than t-72 and t90-s ?

 

[SOHEIL]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJhrdOvA8Xw/

 

[jack 86000]

 

[NADIM]

Something is strange in gun barrel .I this is T-90 and markava-4 mix.

 

[SOHEIL]

Seems our guys in DIO heavy industries copied T-90ms for good !!!

Skval

Kh-55

SS-N-16 RPK-7 Veter

& Now T-90MS !!!

 

[RAMPAGE]

Seems our guys in DIO heavy industries copied T-90ms for good !!!

Skval

Kh-55

SS-N-16 RPK-7 Veter

& Now T-90MS !!!

Doesn't look like there's any ERA on Karrar's turret. Its a good thing BTW.

 

[NADIM]

Everyone please look at the gun barrel of Latter main battle tank.

 

[SOHEIL]

Everyone please look at the gun barrel of Latter main battle tank.

Yes ... It's one of the differences ...

 

[Fafnir]

Seems our guys in DIO heavy industries copied T-90ms for good !!!

Skval

Kh-55

SS-N-16 RPK-7 Veter

& Now T-90MS !!!

Lets not get all carried away here now,all we can make out from these not very detailed pictures is that it appears to have some of the features and looks of the t90ms but there are also some differences as well and the big question is what is the tank like under the skin?,is it a genuine deep modernisation like the t90ms is or is it just a t-72 made to look like a t90ms,in other words just a superficial copy?, on that score as far as I`m concerned the jury is still out and at the very least we need some better pics and hopefully some hd videos so we can get a really good look at it to make up our minds.

Everyone please look at the gun barrel of Latter main battle tank.

They`ve just fitted a shroud to the rear of the gun thats all,the caliber is still the exact same 125mm just like the t72s

 

[Rukarl]

Although there are similarities, people are jumping to conclusions here. Alot of tanks can look quite similar, this tank, if it even is the karrar, it does indeed have T- series influences such as side skirts etc however, there is clearly considerable differences. Look at tank below:

If you look close enough you could also see similarities between it and T-90 etc, however does that mean it is based on it?

Lets wait till karrar is officially revealed then we can do a proper (layman) analysis on its anatomy.

 

[HAIDER]

Double click ...

 

[PeeD]

If its not a secret deal between Russia and Iran to licence produce a somewhat different T-90SM as Karrar in Iran, then Iranian designers basically took the design philosophy of the T-90SM to upgrade the T-72S design they already had.

From my point of view this is great as the turret shape of the T-90SM is really a very good design, it allows a large degree in azimuth to be covered by the turret armor. This means it can hunt for targets at a wider are without exposing itself.

So this modification of the T-72 design is almost the best you can get. The turret bustle allows additional armour to be carried outside the crew compartment as opposed to the original T-72 and basic T-90 design.

Now to possible downsides:

The tank gets heavier by this changes. The ~800HP engine of the T-72S would make the tank quite under powered for today's standards. Iran possibly can still import those engines for the Karrar but I don't know wither Russia agrees to sell the 1000Hp and 1000+HP engines of the T-90 family. An Iranian tank engine was not yet shown.

The gun is still the Soviet 125mm but with some fancy looking changes. If the autoloader has not been changes there should still be limitations for longer rod APFSDS rounds. This would basically locks its main gun firepower to that of the T-72S. The Russian T-90SM has the necessary changes for the autoloader as far as i know.

Russians have decades of experience in armor due to the huge efforts by the Soviets. It remains to be seen if ERA and amour of the Karrar are up to those of the T-90SM. At least the sideskirt ERA seems to be a mock-up or not installed yet.

I see no Independent sight for the commander.

No muzzle reference system on the Karrar as on the T-90SM. Also the APU and infantry communication port is missing.

Even if all this lacks remain true its still a great and economical design. It could be a bait for the Russians to say "look we built almost something like your T-90SM, come on let us licence produce it here".