The important peaks are with pak military----.
Can you please share some illustration of this? And any close to accurate idea of losses suffered by both sides? Thanks
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The important peaks are with pak military----.
A) Yes, during War, India is not facing sever Ammunition shortages , the only thing is 155mm Guns were brought from Strike Cops to Kargil.
B) By the time end PAK is only one week of Fuel left, You think after one week Mayhem will havoc in PAK when everything in PAK stopped. Car/ factories / power plants / and your Army will dried up after a one more week.
D) US had put much pressure in India not to escalate the conflict
In war India never Run out of 155mm Ammo , In war you have to replenish stocks at faster level to meet any eventuality. thats why their is always faster procurement during wars .
But do you have fuel left to fight a War? what you think IAF will do after wiping PAF ?
if NS should be hand what you should do with Army ? who so scared that block the kargil report?
In 1965 , all the western Countries are in PAK favour / Allies, did you ever find any mention n Operation brasstrak? they did not even mentioned that IA reached Lahore
During Cuba missile crisis, West only published the report that Russian gone back from Cuba , but they didn't Print the news that US has to withdraw missiles for Russian border countries also in return.
--when are you guys going to finish us off----or is this bickering keep going to continue till the next episode.
Move on guys we have discussed it to death.....
There is this one question..if Musharraf did not need NS for planning and even execution of his plan, then why was NS required when things got tough ? Why didn't Musharraf simply go ahead with his plan if it was so good ?
To me, it sounds like Musharraf vomitted and wanted someone else to clean his mess.
Hi,
I don't know about you---but I was alive and well in 1965---. I remember the Gnat that was forced to land at pasroor flew right above our house and my father saying that is an indian plane and I looked at it go by---- I did not see any indian victory in 1965----.
With your size and numbers---you should have walked right thru us---. With twice the army and armor and aircraft----but have nothing to show for it except to be the butt of jokes and laughing stock on the world----.
There was no place for the Indians to hide their embarrassment in foreign countries in 1965. For us it was 1971----.
Now if you are such a strong military then what has stopped you from neutralizing Pakistan once for all.
Because we know that if we were your size-----and we had you your resources and number of troops and weapons-----and you were our size----we would have vaporized you a long time ago----.
What is it that is holding the mighty indian warrior back-------3 time the number of air force---3 times the number of naval fleet ----3 times the number of tanks and army---and still no bueno.
All you Indians are bitching and moaning and fighting like illiterate women back home---I do this to you---I do that to you----I am stronger than you----so---when are you guys going to finish us off----or is this bickering keep going to continue till the next episode.
Hi,
Nawaz Sharif was a part and parcel of planning----. He agreed to it all the way----that is why Kargil operation was launched----.
Remember---Musharraf was Nawaz Sharif's man----Nawaz had picked him for that job. The deal was the Musharraf would carry out the strike and Nawaz would take the stand as the prime minister----.
So you mean, Chinese internally do not trust Pakistan because they know their double speak in terms of terrorism? Chinese trust India more than Pakistan that they provided the information against their beloved friend to India...Thats the best possibility among all the options. India/US having such a powerful network in china which can record conversation of a foreign military chief seems a bit unrealistic.
They might want to prevent a nuclear war and hence helped India to expose Pakistan. (May be)
Can you please share some illustration of this? And any close to accurate idea of losses suffered by both sides? Thanks
Hi,
As I stated---india lost more troops at kargil than the 71 war---. Pakistani losses were very heavy as well. There were dead bodies left behind----the decision was made ---men have died---they have done their job---. The control of the critical peaks will not be given back----.
The main road is still under the range of Pakistani artillery---.
Where are you getting all this from..It looked like NS picked Musharraf to be his man in the army and the plan backfired..Later Musharraf removed NS from power and forced him into exile..
Is there any chance of another surprise, this time with more dedication and political will to capitalise on it?
Kid,
If you don't even know that part---then is it worth you discussing with adults---. It is better for children to keep their mouths shut and listen to what the elders are talking about----.
I wish you could have dropped the high-handedness..
I'm asking questions based on logic over here. If you don't want to answer them for what ever reasons you have, just tell me that.
You don't have to be insulting, do you see me doing the same to you ? This is where the usual name-calling starts..
If there are dark little secrets placed all around for the missing pieces of the apparent jigsaw puzzle, secrets that you know but don't want to share, then better not talk about them in an open forum, no ?
I wish you could have dropped the high-handedness..
I'm asking questions based on logic over here. If you don't want to answer them for what ever reasons you have, just tell me that.
You don't have to be insulting, do you see me doing the same to you ? This is where the usual name-calling starts..
If there are dark little secrets placed all around for the missing pieces of the apparent jigsaw puzzle, secrets that you know but don't want to share, then better not talk about them in an open forum, no ?
Hi,
I don't know about you---but I was alive and well in 1965---. I remember the Gnat that was forced to land at pasroor flew right above our house and my father saying that is an indian plane and I looked at it go by---- I did not see any indian victory in 1965----.
With your size and numbers---you should have walked right thru us---. With twice the army and armor and aircraft----but have nothing to show for it except to be the butt of jokes and laughing stock on the world----.
There was no place for the Indians to hide their embarrassment in foreign countries in 1965. For us it was 1971----.
Now if you are such a strong military then what has stopped you from neutralizing Pakistan once for all.
Because we know that if we were your size-----and we had you your resources and number of troops and weapons-----and you were our size----we would have vaporized you a long time ago----.
What is it that is holding the mighty indian warrior back-------3 time the number of air force---3 times the number of naval fleet ----3 times the number of tanks and army---and still no bueno.
All you Indians are bitching and moaning and fighting like illiterate women back home---I do this to you---I do that to you----I am stronger than you----so---when are you guys going to finish us off----or is this bickering keep going to continue till the next episode.
which Main Road? NH1, no it is not , because before you keep on firing shells on NH-1 , not its complete pin drop silence on NH-1 , Status Que is maintained . Check the map and see tight hills and other points.Hi,
As I stated---india lost more troops at kargil than the 71 war---. Pakistani losses were very heavy as well. There were dead bodies left behind----the decision was made ---men have died---they have done their job---. The control of the critical peaks will not be given back----.
The main road is still under the range of Pakistani artillery---.
Hi,
I don't know about you---but I was alive and well in 1965---. I remember the Gnat that was forced to land at pasroor flew right above our house and my father saying that is an indian plane and I looked at it go by---- I did not see any indian victory in 1965----.
With your size and numbers---you should have walked right thru us---. With twice the army and armor and aircraft----but have nothing to show for it except to be the butt of jokes and laughing stock on the world----.
There was no place for the Indians to hide their embarrassment in foreign countries in 1965. For us it was 1971----.
Now if you are such a strong military then what has stopped you from neutralizing Pakistan once for all.
Because we know that if we were your size-----and we had you your resources and number of troops and weapons-----and you were our size----we would have vaporized you a long time ago----.
What is it that is holding the mighty indian warrior back-------3 time the number of air force---3 times the number of naval fleet ----3 times the number of tanks and army---and still no bueno.
All you Indians are bitching and moaning and fighting like illiterate women back home---I do this to you---I do that to you----I am stronger than you----so---when are you guys going to finish us off----or is this bickering keep going to continue till the next episode.