Karakorum - 8 (K-8) | Jet Trainer Aircraft.

[khanasifm]

?? I think this is not correct ?? Naf has k8 ??

This has entailed delivery of MFI-17 Super Mushak basic trainers, Karakorum K-8 intermediate jet trainers (which Pakistan Aeronautical Complex equipped to fire unguided rockets), and technical help to keep the Nigerian fleet of F-7NI Fishcan fighters operational.

Pakistan delivers JF-17 fighters to Nigerian Air Force

This marks the latest development in the Pakistan Air Force’s involvement in the Nigerian Air Force’s modernization program.

www.defensenews.com

 

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Seen alot of Pilatus PC-21 trainer aircrafts with Qatar and UAE AF. Haven't heard about them much. How do thay compare with K8s or Mushaks?

 

[ghazi52]

 

[maverick1977]

?? I think this is not correct ?? Naf has k8 ??

This has entailed delivery of MFI-17 Super Mushak basic trainers, Karakorum K-8 intermediate jet trainers (which Pakistan Aeronautical Complex equipped to fire unguided rockets), and technical help to keep the Nigerian fleet of F-7NI Fishcan fighters operational.

Pakistan delivers JF-17 fighters to Nigerian Air Force

This marks the latest development in the Pakistan Air Force’s involvement in the Nigerian Air Force’s modernization program.

www.defensenews.com

I think K8 can fire sidewinders AIM-9P or AIM9L. along with unguided rockets. Citation needed.

 

[khanasifm]

I think K8 can fire sidewinders AIM-9P or AIM9L. along with unguided rockets. Citation needed.

I was questioning Nigerian had k8 part [emoji6]

Nigerian never bought k8 they already have L-29 but possible in future when their trainer need replacement

 

[Bilal9]

Seen alot of Pilatus PC-21 trainer aircrafts with Qatar and UAE AF. Haven't heard about them much. How do thay compare with K8s or Mushaks?

Brother - PC-21 is a later modernized version of the Swiss turboprop advanced trainers PC-7 and PC-9.

PC-21 can satisfy basic and advanced flight training, full mission management training, and embedded simulation/emulation.

The aircraft possesses a powerful, flexible, and cost-effective integrated training system; providing sufficient ease of use for inexperienced pilots while posing greater challenge to advanced pilots.

It is general consensus, that while the PC-21 is a turboprop powered by the well-proven PWC Canada PT-6A (same as that used on many small utility turboprop aircraft and airliners including the ubiquitous twin otter), it possesses superior aerodynamic performance when compared with any other turboprop trainer on the market (including Musshaq which has a non-turboprop engine) and even older jet trainers. Look at the efficient planform.

In fact in the top speed arena, the PC-21 can reach 426 MPH (Never exceed speed). Which is not too shabby compared to a jet trainer like the K-8 (500 MPH), which is much more heavier and in a pinch, can be used for COIN and airfield defense duties. The Myanmarese have used the K-8 as COIN aircraft against insurgents in their country.

The PC-21 is a pure trainer (and an excellent one), but cannot be used to carry things like unguided rockets, which the K-8 can. Both aircraft have advanced glass cockpits, EFIS and zero/zero ejection seats in tandem seating pattern.

These are the Bangladesh K-8W's in airshow paint.

If you want a turboprop trainer with Missile capability, the A-29 Super Tucano (EMBRAER) from Brazil is a good choice as it was tried out for USAF OA-X project (USAF light attack experiment). It has four hard points, the inner ones can be plumbed for light fuel tanks and outer ones can carry guided bombs or sidewinders (or Mavericks, Hellfires, JAGM etc.).

Additionally HMG's in wing (200 rounds for the FN Herstal M3P 12.7 mm (.50 in) machine gun, firing rate of up to 1,100 rounds per minute).

Super Tucanos can also carry a centre-line tank for 400 litres (88 imp gal; 110 US gal) of fuel

Afghan Air Force A-29 seen with HMG's in wing and add'l side armor plating to protect engine and pilots

 

[Ali_Baba]

Brother - PC-21 is a later modernized version of the Swiss turboprop advanced trainers PC-7 and PC-9.

PC-21 can satisfy basic and advanced flight training, full mission management training, and embedded simulation/emulation.

The aircraft possesses a powerful, flexible, and cost-effective integrated training system; providing sufficient ease of use for inexperienced pilots while posing greater challenge to advanced pilots.

It is general consensus, that while the PC-21 is a turboprop powered by the well-proven PWC Canada PT-6A, it possesses superior aerodynamic performance when compared with any other turboprop trainer on the market (including Musshaq which has a non-turboprop engine) and even older jet trainers. Look at the efficient planform.

In fact in the top speed arena, the PC-21 can reach 426 MPH (Never exceed speed). Which is not too shabby compared to a jet trainer like the K-8 (500 MPH), which is much more heavier and in a pinch, can be used for COIN and airfield defense duties. The Myanmarese have used the K-8 as COIN aircraft against insurgents in their country.

The PC-21 is a pure trainer (and an excellent one), but cannot be used to carry things like unguided rockets, which the K-8 can. Both aircraft have advanced glass cockpits, EFIS and zero/zero ejection seats in tandem seating pattern.

These are the Bangladesh K-8W's in airshow paint.

If you want a turboprop trainer with Missile capability, the A-29 Super Tucano (EMBRAER) from Brazil is a good choice as it was tried out for USAF OA-X project (USAF light attack experiment). It has four hard points, the inner ones can be plumbed for light fuel tanks and outer ones can carry guided bombs or sidewinders.

For some reason - the paint job on the BAF K8s looks like it they 10x better(in quality) than any paint job i have seen on a PAF K8.

 

[Scorpiooo]

What is the unit cost of k8

 

[Bilal9]

For some reason - the paint job on the BAF K8s looks like it they 10x better(in quality) than any paint job i have seen on a PAF K8.

Thanks brother.

I don't know who did the paint job. Maybe BAF themselves, or - a contractor.

 

[Raider 21]

 

[denel]

Brother - PC-21 is a later modernized version of the Swiss turboprop advanced trainers PC-7 and PC-9.

PC-21 can satisfy basic and advanced flight training, full mission management training, and embedded simulation/emulation.

The aircraft possesses a powerful, flexible, and cost-effective integrated training system; providing sufficient ease of use for inexperienced pilots while posing greater challenge to advanced pilots.

It is general consensus, that while the PC-21 is a turboprop powered by the well-proven PWC Canada PT-6A (same as that used on many small utility turboprop aircraft and airliners including the ubiquitous twin otter), it possesses superior aerodynamic performance when compared with any other turboprop trainer on the market (including Musshaq which has a non-turboprop engine) and even older jet trainers. Look at the efficient planform.

In fact in the top speed arena, the PC-21 can reach 426 MPH (Never exceed speed). Which is not too shabby compared to a jet trainer like the K-8 (500 MPH), which is much more heavier and in a pinch, can be used for COIN and airfield defense duties. The Myanmarese have used the K-8 as COIN aircraft against insurgents in their country.

The PC-21 is a pure trainer (and an excellent one), but cannot be used to carry things like unguided rockets, which the K-8 can. Both aircraft have advanced glass cockpits, EFIS and zero/zero ejection seats in tandem seating pattern.

These are the Bangladesh K-8W's in airshow paint.

If you want a turboprop trainer with Missile capability, the A-29 Super Tucano (EMBRAER) from Brazil is a good choice as it was tried out for USAF OA-X project (USAF light attack experiment). It has four hard points, the inner ones can be plumbed for light fuel tanks and outer ones can carry guided bombs or sidewinders (or Mavericks, Hellfires, JAGM etc.).

Additionally HMG's in wing (200 rounds for the FN Herstal M3P 12.7 mm (.50 in) machine gun, firing rate of up to 1,100 rounds per minute).

Super Tucanos can also carry a centre-line tank for 400 litres (88 imp gal; 110 US gal) of fuel

Afghan Air Force A-29 seen with HMG's in wing and add'l side armor plating to protect engine and pilots

Embraer is the leader in this space. Practically similar to K8 in performance

 

[ghazi52]

 

[ghazi52]

DGPR (AIR FORCE)

@DGPR_PAF

Inspired by RAF Aerobatics Team “The Red Pelicans”, SL Bahar-ul-Haq originally conceived idea of Sherdils. The first team leader was none other than Wg Cdr Imtiaz A Bhatti, (SJ) - the legendary War hero of 1965; while FL Aamer Sharieff, FL Rahim and FL Niaz were his form members.

With a legacy of five decades of startling Aerial Displays, the esteemed “Sherdils” Formation Aerobatics Team of PAF spread its wings for the first time, once it flew as a Four-Ship Formation of T-37 aircraft on 17 August, 1972.

The First Four-ship K-8 formation displayed its thrilling performance on 10 September, 2009. Maturing to Six-ship within a year, Sherdils continued to amuse the domestic as well as international audience bearing pride for Pakistan Air Force.

DGPR (AIR FORCE)

@DGPR_PAF



Team work and dedication, supplemented with improvisation, resulted in evolution of “Sherdils” into today’s modern Nine-ship aerobatics team.

 

[ghazi52]

Today in History - 17 August

With a legacy of five decades of startling Aerial Displays, the esteemed “Sherdils” Formation Aerobatics Team of PAF spread its wings for the first time, once it flew as a Four-Ship Formation of T-37 aircraft on 17 August, 1972. Inspired by Royal Air Force Aerobatics Team “The Red Pelicans”, Sqn Ldr Bahar-ul-Haq originally conceived the idea of Sherdils. The first team leader of Sherdils was none other than Wg Cdr Imtiaz A Bhatti, (SJ) - the legendary War hero of 1965; while Flt Lt Aamer Ali Sharieff, Flt Lt A Rahim Yusufzai and Flt Lt Niaz Nabi were his formation members. The initial performance of the Team was an instant triumph which earned immense appreciation & applause and thus the ‘Tweety-Birds’ became the star performers and integral part of all Aerial Display venues. The traditional four-ship formation was elevated to Six-ship in March, 2004 and was further raised to Nine-ship in October, 2004.

The next important milestone in “Sherdils” history was transfer of the prestigious legacy from T-37 Formation to Karakoram-8 formation in the year 2009. The First Four-ship K-8 formation displayed its thrilling performance on 10 September, 2009. Maturing to Six-ship within a year, Sherdils continued to amuse the domestic as well as international audience bearing pride for Pakistan Air Force. Team work and dedication, supplemented with improvisation, resulted in evolution of “Sherdils” into today’s modern Nine-ship aerobatics team.

 

[Incog_nito]

Is PAF expecting some trainers from China?
FTC-2000s AJTs
L-15s AJTs/LIFTs