Kandahar Hijack episode - Ur response..?

[KS]

Like George W Bush said....why should i waste my million dollar missle on their fifty dollar tent.

On a serious note i was talking of supporting our special forces and about the week long bombing...it could act as a psycological warfare...dont you think this type of incident would have never been repeated.

True ...it has a tremendous psychologocal effect..that we r willing to go to any extent to protect our citizens.

 

[indian navy]

what will come this thread nothing

world know India is soft state

 

[Awesome]

Another comment without knowing about the incident.

The plane took off from Kathmandu and landed at Amritsar for refuelling.The plane was denied refuelling and NSG were contacted...as NSG was not in Amritsar so it took some time and the plane took off without refuelling and had to refuel in Pakistan.

Actually this is what happened:

Landing in Amritsar, India
At Amritsar, Captain Sharan requested refueling the aircraft. However, the Crisis Management Group in Delhi directed Amritsar Airport authorities to ensure that the plane was immobilised, which armed personnel of the Punjab police were already in position to try to do. They did not receive approval from New Delhi. Eventually, a fuel tanker was dispatched and instructed to block the approach of the aircraft. As the tanker sped towards the aircraft, air traffic control radioed the driver to slow down, and the tanker immediately came to a stop. This sudden stop aroused the hijackers' suspicion and they forced the aircraft to take off immediately, without clearance from air traffic control. The aircraft missed the tanker by only a few feet.[5]

Indian Airlines Flight 814 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Tshering22]

You should have asked Afghanistan to fuel the air craft and fly it to some friendly country and then stage a OPS there.All those bombings threats and other war mongering is quite frankly just non realistic bs.For that kind of thing you need diplomatic power of US of Former USSR which even China does not have despite being the 2nd biggest economy.

No man. Afghanistan was then ruled by Taliban which were sympathetic to these @#$%^&* who hijacked our airliner. There was no way we could send commandos from India directly in time to save all. And if they had been alerted, all the 172 would have died.

The Kandahar episode was terrible that we had to release terrorists, but it saved most of the lives. However, for future this is why India has taken a base in Ayni, Tajikistan. To be able to insert special forces in case such sh!t happens again.

 

[Tshering22]

Actually this is what happened:

Landing in Amritsar, India
At Amritsar, Captain Sharan requested refueling the aircraft. However, the Crisis Management Group in Delhi directed Amritsar Airport authorities to ensure that the plane was immobilised, which armed personnel of the Punjab police were already in position to try to do. They did not receive approval from New Delhi. Eventually, a fuel tanker was dispatched and instructed to block the approach of the aircraft. As the tanker sped towards the aircraft, air traffic control radioed the driver to slow down, and the tanker immediately came to a stop. This sudden stop aroused the hijackers' suspicion and they forced the aircraft to take off immediately, without clearance from air traffic control. The aircraft missed the tanker by only a few feet.[5]

Indian Airlines Flight 814 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's because at that time our forces were not trained to handle such a situation especially the common police. I bet NSG would have handled the situation if they were already there. But their coming delayed since they had to fly from Manesar to Amritsar. That's the only reason why the high command in Delhi refused any permits to strike the aircraft. We'd have lost numerous policemen who've not trained to counter terror threats and also lost at least half the passengers in a massacre by those bloodthirsty monsters.

However, today this situation (I hope never happens) can be dealt with effectively since NSG has been dispatched to different corners of the country and anything within India's borders, the f cukin' hi-jackers won't get past.

 

[Srinivas]

India should have done the same thing like in the Mumbai incident No negotiations with terrorists and do special ops.
The response of GOI in mumbai was the thing we needed at that time. It is so sad to loose lives of innocent citizens, but it is even sadder to accept the demands of terrorists.

 

[Awesome]

No man. Afghanistan was then ruled by Taliban which were sympathetic to these @#$%^&* who hijacked our airliner. There was no way we could send commandos from India directly in time to save all. And if they had been alerted, all the 172 would have died.

The Kandahar episode was terrible that we had to release terrorists, but it saved most of the lives. However, for future this is why India has taken a base in Ayni, Tajikistan. To be able to insert special forces in case such sh!t happens again.

India has no proof that the Taliban were working with the hijackers other than that they surrounded the plane with their own commandos.

India basis its entire assumption on this that since the Taliban must've thought that India would do a secret special forces mission and attack the plane and free the hostages, the Taliban surrounded the plane to deter the Indians.

First of all, to reach Afghanistan India would've needed to cross Pakistan. Do you seriously think that India could've secretly gone through Pakistan, then into Afghanistan then to Kandahar, then to the airport and then carry out a super duper commando mission.

If it wasn't going to be a secret mission then did India even once negotiated for such a plan? India couldn't even immobilize the plane in Amritsar on its own soil.

 

[Spring Onion]

I think not only the special forces but the airfoce also has to take part if its another country like Afghanistan.

Send your special forces to take over the plane and ask the jets to bomb everything around the plane...every moving vehicle with terrorist supporters or any building in the airport..which would help the special forces in neutralisng any terrorist in the plane..and taking off as soon as the plane is secured.

And as a lesson for any state supporting terrorists like Talibans were supporting the terrorists at them time of hijacking....we should keep bombing them till a week so that noone messes with us in the future.

But these type of operations require balls which only the Israelis,Americans and Russians have.

Stupid thinking. You should have shoot it or bomb it at Amritsar

And one wonders how your suggestion of bombing Afghanistan is feasible for India???????


How you suppose to fly your jets through airspace of Pakistan or Iran or China for that matter even if you think most wildly ??/

 

[Awesome]

The Indian Hijacking was more of a crime against Pakistan.

The released terrorists almost all made it into Pakistan and are wanted for several bombings.

Including the killing of Daniel Pearl

 

[Spring Onion]

The Indian Hijacking was more of a crime against Pakistan.

The released terrorists almost all made it into Pakistan and are wanted for several bombings.

Including the killing of Daniel Pearl

Agreed and one more inside information from one of those who took part in that operation is that these people have even succeeded in digging deep down tunnel in Indian jail and the Indian authorities were dumb enough to fail to find it untill one day a military vehicle stuck and went down into the earth surface of the tunnel

 

[Awesome]

Best things were done by Pakistan:

1. Captain says I want to land, ATC says no you can't land
2. Captain says I'm low on fuel I must land, ATC grounds all air traffic, switches off the lights of the runway, goes into radio silence mode
3. Captain tries to land anyway and almost lands on a road and has to do emergency pullup
4. ATC realizes these guys are desperate and will crash on Lahore, killing Lahories
5. Allows landing and gives fuel

We were so much more of a pain for the hijackers than India was.

 

[third eye]

Well whichever way you look at it the incident was an example of how things should not be done.

No excuses whatsoever for allowing the plane to take off once it landed at Amritsar.

This is a blot the BJP led Govt will have to endure. It takes courage not to negotiate when your own ppl are involved.This is something thats now settled I believe now that a national policy has been framed.

Alongside is the subject of keeping such terrorists who can be negotiated for alive for too long. Fast track justice is needed, but thanks to human rights groups and wheels with wheels that exist can Govts do it ?

 

[Tshering22]

India has no proof that the Taliban were working with the hijackers other than that they surrounded the plane with their own commandos.

India basis its entire assumption on this that since the Taliban must've thought that India would do a secret special forces mission and attack the plane and free the hostages, the Taliban surrounded the plane to deter the Indians.

First of all, to reach Afghanistan India would've needed to cross Pakistan. Do you seriously think that India could've secretly gone through Pakistan, then into Afghanistan then to Kandahar, then to the airport and then carry out a super duper commando mission.

If it wasn't going to be a secret mission then did India even once negotiated for such a plan? India couldn't even immobilize the plane in Amritsar on its own soil.

India has no proof that the Taliban were working with the hijackers other than that they surrounded the plane with their own commandos.

Oh really? The Taliban refused to reach out to Indian dialogue and provided the airline hijackers immunity. What their own commandos? It even refused to enter into dialogue with our government despite us keeping all facts aside.

That's proof enough for us to think that even if they were not working with terrorists, they were sympathetic to them.

India basis its entire assumption on this that since the Taliban must've thought that India would do a secret special forces mission and attack the plane and free the hostages, the Taliban surrounded the plane to deter the Indians.

That's the point isn't it? We didn't even had a diplomatic dialogue properly since the Taliban refused to allow us any kind of access even for communications with them.

First of all, to reach Afghanistan India would've needed to cross Pakistan. Do you seriously think that India could've secretly gone through Pakistan, then into Afghanistan then to Kandahar, then to the airport and then carry out a super duper commando mission.

If it wasn't going to be a secret mission then did India even once negotiated for such a plan? India couldn't even immobilize the plane in Amritsar on its own soil.

We didn't talk to you at that time because there was no point. The hostilities were open and you would naturally use some or the other excuse to refuse our request. Come on just remember the year when it happened and reply.

The hijack happening in Nepal, which is not a part of India. It was carried to Amritsar in Punjab when NSG were only in Manesar Haryana. By the time NSG got there, they had taken off.

How long does it take an aircraft to land, refuel and takeoff?

Punjab police was armed and ready to act but they were not trained to handle counter-terrorism especially hijack situations. If they had been given the go ahead, both policemen and at least half of the hostages would have died and people would have eaten the ruling government alive for the loss of life.

It was a blunder but despite that happening, we had to learn it through the hard way of stationing NSG nationwide now after November 2008.

Why're you bringing Pakistan in the middle? Even if there would have been a commando mission there, we'd have asked clearance from you because you see, we don't have stealth transport planes to evade your radars.

So to avoid such mess, we've considered Tajikistan which can simply bypass you into Afghanistan incase such problem comes up (I hope never).

 

[third eye]

Best things were done by Pakistan:

1. Captain says I want to land, ATC says no you can't land
2. Captain says I'm low on fuel I must land, ATC grounds all air traffic, switches off the lights of the runway, goes into radio silence mode
3. Captain tries to land anyway and almost lands on a road and has to do emergency pullup
4. ATC realizes these guys are desperate and will crash on Lahore, killing Lahories
5. Allows landing and gives fuel

We were so much more of a pain for the hijackers than India was.

Indeed ?

If Pak felt so strongly, why was the aircraft allowed to leave ?

 

[Spring Onion]

Indeed ?

If Pak felt so strongly, why was the aircraft allowed to leave ?

If India was so much strong and if your national pride was supreme than few individuals than why India allowed the aircraft to leave Amritsar airport ????????



Sorry Pakistan can not let its people killed by hijackers for the sack of our enemy India.