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Kalam is our candidate : Mamata ji

People know that president is figure head, but APJ inspires youth and that makes a huge difference.
In Indian democratic system, president SHOULD be figurehead. I dont see anything wrong in the arrangement.
Most of the things he says are incoherent, if you listen to him long enough you will get headache.
He is not even a proper scientist, he was engineer and then administrator. I dont see DRDO doing some chamatkar during his tenure.
He is media creation, yeah I agree about he being inspiration for youth, but so are Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Satya Sai baba and Ameer Khan. Not enough reason to be president again.

The idolizing of persons, to the point that no criticism is ever tolerated, leads to distorted image of people and distorted history.
 
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In Indian democratic system, president SHOULD be figurehead. I dont see anything wrong in the arrangement.
Most of the things he says are incoherent, if you listen to him long enough you will get headache.
He is not even a proper scientist, he was engineer and then administrator. I dont see DRDO doing some chamatkar during his tenure.
He is media creation, yeah I agree about he being inspiration for youth, but so are Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Satya Sai baba and Ameer Khan. Not enough reason to be president again.

The idolizing of persons, to the point that no criticism is ever tolerated, leads to distorted image of people and distorted history.
Ur not even Worth a Reply ... But ill give it a Shot...No Youth have yet got any inspiration from Amir khan Forget leave along ,Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Satya Sai baba :rofl:

What do u wanna prove here...Thank God ur not the Candidate for Indian presidential election ... So Indian rocket Scientist Kalam sir needs a Certificate from a PDF Troller to prove that he has donesomething good for Indian Science & technology ...

& his Main works where for ISRO & Integrated Guided Missile Development Program ... & he is the person who designed SLV & Used the same technology for Missile ... SLV was the first Satellite Launch Vehicle by ISRO... Now get a Life
 
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In Indian democratic system, president SHOULD be figurehead. I dont see anything wrong in the arrangement.
Most of the things he says are incoherent, if you listen to him long enough you will get headache.
He is not even a proper scientist, he was engineer and then administrator. I dont see DRDO doing some chamatkar during his tenure.
He is media creation, yeah I agree about he being inspiration for youth, but so are Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Satya Sai baba and Ameer Khan. Not enough reason to be president again.

The idolizing of persons, to the point that no criticism is ever tolerated, leads to distorted image of people and distorted history.

Its a defense forum not for kids get lost and sleep tight.
 
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In Indian democratic system, president SHOULD be figurehead. I dont see anything wrong in the arrangement.
Most of the things he says are incoherent, if you listen to him long enough you will get headache.
He is not even a proper scientist, he was engineer and then administrator. I dont see DRDO doing some chamatkar during his tenure.
He is media creation, yeah I agree about he being inspiration for youth, but so are Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Satya Sai baba and Ameer Khan. Not enough reason to be president again.

The idolizing of persons, to the point that no criticism is ever tolerated, leads to distorted image of people and distorted history.

It is not about APJ, it is about his charisma. He has such great image among the youth that he inspires people to be productive. Just see this thread, how many are dreaming him to become the President.
 
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Anna Hazare is my candidate...

@Mods/Admins - why dont we ve an Indian flag to select from in Simley? Pls add it asap or face the consequences.....there will be a hartal...no violence and peaceful movement against you in PDF....we won’t post…so, you will have only one side to your coin which nobody would like to accept, specially who pay you for adds….so be pragmatic/sporty and put our flag…
 
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It is not about APJ, it is about his charisma. He has such great image among the youth that he inspires people to be productive. Just see this thread, how many are dreaming him to become the President.
Yes, but is it not a false hope. Many dream of IK being PM of pakistan and many youth are inspired by him, but that can easily turn into disappointment (obama?).
Although I agree Indian presidents are not expected to do much so, no authority and no accountability, which is why youth will continue to be 'inspired' by him.
 
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Yes, but is it not a false hope. Many dream of IK being PM of pakistan and many youth are inspired by him, but that can easily turn into disappointment (obama?).
Although I agree Indian presidents are not expected to do much so, no authority and no accountability, which is why youth will continue to be 'inspired' by him.

I would not say false hope. Sometimes figure heads achieve more than what people in power can do. Charisma has such powers. Gandhi was a figure head of independence movement and see the result. Similarly, Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela and Dalai Lama as figure heads achieved more for their people then they could have achieved if they would have been in power
 
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I would not say false hope. Sometimes figure heads achieve more than what people in power can do. Charisma has such powers. Gandhi was a figure head of independent movement and see the result. Similarly, Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela and Dalai Lama as figure heads achieved more for the people then they could have achieved if they would have been in power
I agree with you on this. But should it not be better for him to be apolitical, start a mission (say to popularize science and remove superstition) about whatever is close to his heart. How will second presidency help him.
If you think he is like Gandhi, King or Mandela, he should use his popularity to bring change in society, presidency wont achieve that.
 
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Yes, but is it not a false hope. Many dream of IK being PM of pakistan and many youth are inspired by him, but that can easily turn into disappointment (obama?).
Although I agree Indian presidents are not expected to do much so, no authority and no accountability, which is why youth will continue to be 'inspired' by him.

We don't care with what xyz dreams of,we are concerned of our country and in the list of presidential candidates, he is not only the best,, calling him the only candidate in Presidential election won't be a hyperbole.


btw i suggested you an avtaar did you liked it,, it suits ur name
 
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I agree with you on this. But should it not be better for him to be apolitical, start a mission (say to popularize science and remove superstition) about whatever is close to his heart. How will second presidency help him.
If you think he is like Gandhi, King or Mandela, he should use his popularity to bring change in society, presidency wont achieve that.

Yes, but sometimes the presidency tag will provide him with better resources. State machinery at his disposal will have an multiplier effect.
 
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btw i suggested you an avtaar did you liked it,, it suits ur name
No, this is an international forum and I could be mistaken for nazis by our jewish 'brothers'. :)
I wanted it from him though not from you, I am thinking more of a picture from backside of truck in India. Nobody is more patriotic than truck drivers, not even the nair dude. :)
 
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Dr.Abdul Kalam’s Letter to Every Indian (Why is the media here so negative?)

Why are we in India so embarrassed to recognize our own strengths, our achievements? We are such a great nation. We have so many amazing success stories but we refuse to acknowledge them. Why?
We are the first in milk production.
We are number one in Remote sensing satellites.
We are the second largest producer of wheat.
We are the second largest producer of rice.

Look at Dr. Sudarshan , he has transferred the tribal village into a self-sustaining, self-driving unit. There are millions of such achievements but our media is only obsessed in the bad news and failures and disasters. I was in Tel Aviv once and I was reading the Israeli newspaper. It was the day after a lot of attacks and bombardments and deaths had taken place. The Hamas had struck. But the front page of the newspaper had the picture of a Jewish gentleman who in five years had transformed his desert into an orchid and a granary. It was this inspiring picture that everyone woke up to. The gory details of killings, bombardments, deaths, were inside in the newspaper, buried among other news.

APJ Abdul Kalam at Speech1In India we only read about death, sickness, terrorism, crime.. Why are we so NEGATIVE? Another question: Why are we, as a nation so obsessed with foreign things? We want foreign T.Vs, we want foreign shirts. We want foreign technology.

Why this obsession with everything imported. Do we not realize that self-respect comes with self-reliance? I was in Hyderabad giving this lecture, when a 14 year old girl asked me for my autograph. I asked her what her goal in life is. She replied: I want to live in a developed India . For her, you and I will have to build this developed India . You must proclaim. India is not an under-developed nation; it is a highly developed nation.

Do you have 10 minutes? Allow me to come back with a vengeance.
Got 10 minutes for your country? If yes, then read; otherwise, choice is yours..

YOU say that our government is inefficient.
YOU say that our laws are too old.
YOU say that the municipality does not pick up the garbage.
YOU say that the phones don’t work, the railways are a joke.The airline is the worst in the world, mails never reach their destination.
YOU say that our country has been fed to the dogs and is the absolute pits.
YOU say, say and say. What do YOU do about it?

APJ Abdul Kalam at Speech2In America every dog owner has to clean up after his pet has done the job. Same in Japan .. Will the Indian citizen do that here?’ He’s right. We go to the polls to choose a government and after that forfeit all responsibility.

We sit back wanting to be pampered and expect the government to do everything for us whilst our contribution is totally negative. We expect the government to clean up but we are not going to stop chucking garbage all over the place nor are we going to stop to pick a up a stray piece of paper and throw it in the bin. We expect the railways to provide clean bathrooms but we are not going to learn the proper use of bathrooms.
We want Indian Airlines and Air India to provide the best of food and toiletries but we are not going to stop pilfering at the least opportunity.
This applies even to the staff who is known not to pass on the service to the public

APJ Abdul Kalam Wings of fireWhen it comes to burning social issues like those related to women, dowry, girl child! and others, we make loud drawing room protestations and continue to do the reverse at home. Our excuse? ‘It’s the whole system which has to change, how will it matter if I alone forego my sons’ rights to a dowry.’ So who’s going to change the system?


What does a system consist of? Very conveniently for us it consists of our neighbours, other households, other cities, other communities and the government. But definitely not me and YOU. When it comes to us actually making a positive contribution to the system we lock ourselves along with our families into a safe cocoon and look into the distance at countries far away and wait for a Mr.Clean to come along & work miracles for us with a majestic sweep of his hand or we leave the country and run away.

Like lazy cowards hounded by our fears we run to America to bask in their glory and praise their system. When New York becomes insecure we run to England . When England experiences unemployment, we take the next flight out to the Gulf. When the Gulf is war struck, we demand to be rescued and brought home by the Indian government. Everybody is out to abuse and rape the country. Nobody thinks of feeding the system. Our conscience is mortgaged to money.

Dear Indians, The article is highly thought inductive, calls for a great deal of introspection and pricks one’s conscience too…. I am echoing J. F. Kennedy’s words to his fellow Americans to relate to Indians…..

‘ASK WHAT WE CAN DO FOR INDIA AND DO WHAT HAS TO BE DONE TO MAKE INDIA WHAT AMERICA AND OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES ARE TODAY’




Lets do what India needs from us.
Thank you,
Dr.. Abdul Kalam

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No, this is an international forum and I could be mistaken for nazis by our jewish 'brothers'. :)

Jews are educated people,not Taliban,they will definetly know the difference,,,,
U asked help for your avtar, i suggested u one,,
but your reason was not appropriate,
 
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Anna Hazare is my candidate...

@Mods/Admins - why dont we ve an Indian flag to select from in Simley? Pls add it asap or face the consequences.....there will be a hartal...no violence and peaceful movement against you in PDF....we won’t post…so, you will have only one side to your coin which nobody would like to accept, specially who pay you for adds….so be pragmatic/sporty and put our flag…


This is no place for ur opinioning ur hartels bro..
U can discuss it in a separate thread...

I agree with you on this. But should it not be better for him to be apolitical, start a mission (say to popularize science and remove superstition) about whatever is close to his heart. How will second presidency help him.
If you think he is like Gandhi, King or Mandela, he should use his popularity to bring change in society, presidency wont achieve that.

His inspiration comes from his ability to make younger generation work harder like him...
In india, every mother says to her kids, work harder like "APJ Kalam", not any other.. He brought in such enthusiasm.. Have u seen a president stop his own presidential convoy to interact with the students who were waiting outside and cant get into the auditorium?
He stopped and talked with students waiting outside, inspite of security guard warnings...
he is such simple and modest and no words can explain his greatness... Since Gandhi he is one of the few best products of india
 
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For better or for worse Its gona be Pranab Da for president.
Congress +allies 39%
NDA >28% JDU is iffy.
AIADMK + BJD for sangma 8%
SP-6% They are here and there.Mulayam's brother says Kalam not our only choice.
Left-5.1% had put up pranab Da name last time.
Mamtha 4% -kalam support.
BSP undecided.
 
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