Kafir concept

[TheLahoriGuy]

Yes. People who do not are not followers of Abrahamic religions called kafirs. And no Muslims are not supposed to "fight" against kafirs. In times of conflict however war can be declared against other states/groups through Islamic legislation.

Being a believer or a non-believer in Islam is one's personal choice. It's a right given to every human soul right at the time of their creation. And, there's no coercion in Islam. Every soul will bear the consequence of the choices he/she makes....

Human endeavors is full of complex socio-political and economic circumstances which are highly dynamic and changing in 24/7 basis. Hence, Islam encourages establishment of state, government, constitution, legislative/consultive bodies, rights to practice religion & own property, sets of laws, judicial systems, diplomacy, rules of war etc. so that folks from different faiths, races, nationalities, cultures, beliefs etc. can peacefully live and thrive. At the height of the Ottoman Empire, 80% of the inhabitants were non Muslims. Mughals shouldn't be a different case. According to the Jewish folks their golden period was that under the Moors in Andalusia....

In the matter of statecrafts, sometimes wars become inevitable. Islam encourages peace based on pacts, sets of rules and their adherences over wars. However, when a war starts it needs to be waged seriously and with full dedication till an opportunity of peace, on reasonable and beneficial terms, arrives.....

Umm not exactly true. The shariah which is a direct derivativion does not consider faith (doesn't matter which one) to be a choice. A person born into a Muslim family is lawfully bound to be a Muslim because apostasy is to be punished with death.

 

[sathya]

you should have belief on ALLAH ALMIGHTY as only GOD and Hazrat Muhammad ( P.B.U.H) as final Prophet and all orders of ALLAH ALMIGHTY as true and try your best to follow them.if you are unable to follow orders you should have the feeling of being on wrong path and seek forgiveness from ALLAH ALMIGHTY

if one believes Allah to be ONLY god and follows his order, how can he follow other religion .

 

[naveen mishra]

Hi

i ve read somewhere all non muslims are called Kafir s and they should be faught upon by
muslims ...

is this true ? or simply to defame Islam ?

(ps - genuine doubt NOT trolling or anything )

@araz @MastanKhan @Basel

it is little confusing , muslin have 72 sect ,out of that only one is right path ,follower of one right path ,will go to heaven , rest will go to hell , but out of 72 sect which one is correct no buddy know , so rest 71 are kafir , brodly i guess kafir means non believer

just forget about Hindu or pagan , with in Muslim, Muslim are kafir

 

[newb3e]

isnt the concept of Kafir today is totally different from the real concept according to Islam?

 

[sathya]

law of land and religion are same in Islam.if state give authority only then ordinary public can fight

in my land we have many religions ..
Law of Land accommodates law of religion..
Uniform civil code is being proposed to make it the same.

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i ve come to conclusion that people believe in religion according to the level of their maturity ..
some are broad minded to accommodate all, just living right way is enough..
some are not..

its not so different from other religions too .. only the % of people

 

[Vapnope]

Hi

i ve read somewhere all non muslims are called Kafir s and they should be faught upon by
muslims ...

is this true ? or simply to defame Islam ?

(ps - genuine doubt NOT trolling or anything )

Hi Sathya,
The answer lies in interpretation of the Quranic text and since there are more than two school of thoughts hence their is no absolute answer to the question. However i will try to answer it as simply as possible,
The two prominent schools of thoughts of broader interpretation are 1) Literal 2) Figurative

Muslims belonging to first school of thought usually (Not ALL) consider any non-muslim a "Kafir" who should pay certain amount (Jizya) for their safety under muslim rule otherwise they will be fought upon.

Muslims which interpret Quran in figurative way consider those people kafir who fight against Muslims and their broader social rules implemented under Islamic system.

And since muslims are not a monolith hence the idea that all muslims believe in killing non muslims is rhetoric by islamophobes.

 

[SALMAN F]

NO not all non muslims on pagans are Kafir(Infidel) Jews and Christians and are not kafir they are people of Book
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infidel
During Crusades Christians used to call Muslims Infidels

Wether they are people of the book the abrahamic religions or the heavenly religions they all kafirs if the don't believe in the quran as god last message and muhammad as his last prophet and massanger

 

[araz]

Hi

i ve read somewhere all non muslims are called Kafir s and they should be faught upon by
muslims ...

is this true ? or simply to defame Islam ?

(ps - genuine doubt NOT trolling or anything )

@araz @MastanKhan @Basel

You need to understand the word Kafir. It was used in pre islam times as well. It simply means someone who covers the truth. If Islam is the truth and I firmly believe it is then anyone who denies it is covering the tduth and therefore a Kafir.
You are probably referring to the concept of Jehad. This is one of the most misunderstood words and probably the most misused one as well. Jehad from the root word ja ha da means striving. One of the better known ahadeeth(sayings, actions, deeds He approved, did not stop others frlm doing or disapproved) was from the return from a battle. He SAW said to the companions" you are returning from a lesser jehad to a greater one- ---- ie the constant fight against evil thoughts and conduct in accordance with Islam which can be a struggle due to the distractions that the society offers. He has also said that Jehad against your own self ---- curbing bad thoughts and continuing to do good is the biggest form of jehad. So for instance striving for education or edhcating people is a jehad.
As to struggle and Qitaal(killing), there are strict restriction on what constitutes conditions for Qitaal. The Quran tells us that if you kill a soul without just reason then you have killed the whole mankind. Having said that and things need to be taken in the perspective of what has been said, a Muslim is not a submissive soul. He is a vibrant member of a society who works hard and tries his best to stop injustice whereever he sees it. He should not sit quietly and see atrocities and injustice being commited but fight it by ANY means available. These would mean apprising the public of the injustice, rallying up political thought to support a just cause, writing against an injustice. When all of these conditions are met with no success and a religious edict is issued by a competent body of religious scholars then he should resort to fighting to suppress in justice. I should emphasise that this injustice could be any form of injustice committed against any member/ members of society, for instance child labour, child smuggling for pornography and so on. There is no bar to it being against non muslims. It is for justice to prevail.
The Jehad needs to be conducted following a religious edict generally by the state and as much is possible keeping in view the laws of the land that you live in. Individual actions of a violent nature are generally disliked and the reasons for it need wide body of scholarly approach.
This is my rather long short response and Allah knows best.
A

 

[El Sidd]

I hope everyone gets banned for discussing religion.

Like banned at the stake. IP crucified. Avatar stoned.

 

[Imran Khan]

like what you know katreena is kaffir and i love her so no war only love

 

[shahbaz baig]

The word "Kafir" is derived by the arabic word
And it's meaning Non-Muslims.

What's shocking about then?

No islam does not allow to fight with Non muslims but the retalition if any non muslims preaching against islam. Or retalation against the atrocities

 

[Maarkhoor]

Hi

i ve read somewhere all non muslims are called Kafir s and they should be faught upon by
muslims ...

is this true ? or simply to defame Islam ?

(ps - genuine doubt NOT trolling or anything )

@araz @MastanKhan @Basel

Not all non-Muslims called Kafir but those who deceive and try to hurt from behind (means concealing their enmity but when got a chance try to hit)

 

[takeiteasy]

Kafir or Infidel concept is not alone limited to Islam, Hindus can be proud that your rightwing RSS which is now turning out as a schism inside Hinduism called Hindutva, has copied many Koranic principles.

 

[Jaanbaz]

The only kafir for me are the ones who kill Muslims and non Muslims in the name of Islam. Anyone who is Jewish, Hindu, Sikh, Christian, Zoroastrian or Buddhist are not kafir in my view point. If I understand correctly Kafir means disbelievers in God, all of the above mentioned religion have same divine origins that connect to God so I have no right to call followers of other religions kafir.

 

[halupridol]

The only kafir for me are the ones who kill Muslims and non Muslims in the name of Islam. Anyone who is Jewish, Hindu, Sikh, Christian, Zoroastrian or Buddhist are not kafir in my view point. If I understand correctly Kafir means disbelievers in God, all of the above mentioned religion have same divine origins that connect to God so I have no right to call followers of other religions kafir.

look,thread is going clean witout trolling,,,so no need to muddy the waters.
Dont mind me saying this but u shud refrain frm posting ur meaning of kafir,,,as the op(n me) wants to know its actual meaning,not what non muslims like u perceive it to be,,so kindly,let muslims here explain it.