Kabul blames Pakistan for cross-border hits; ties strained

[Ahmad Shah Abdali]

Some people have a bleak memory. please go and check it is Afghanistan from where just in one month three attacks occurred on Pakistani villages in dir where Afghan Army killed innocent women and children more than 100 of them in these attacks.

so one word of karzai STFU

Jana that is total BS! The Afghan National Army has enough troubles to take care of in hundreds of other places than to come down to Dir and kill your "innocent civilians" Citing NW would have been more credible

 

[Ahmad Shah Abdali]

I remember an incident.. where 8 ANA suvs and 8 bikes crossed Pak bordered and fired rpgs at our FC Baluchistan post.............. The troops retaliated and shot 4 of the attackers and the rest ran back and would try to pick up the injured/dead.......... but couldnt........... till our soldiers allowed them too!

Similiar story i remember ANA f...ks coming into our territory and shooting an unarmed shepherd boy......... and throwing his body in a ditch.......... while trying to kill another who saw em doing the horrible deed.............. after tht FC shot at the bastards crossing into our land........ killing 1 of em...



The ANA and kabul should be taught a bloody message.

You are one funny guy PN!!
Seriously though with the kind of BS you write, you don't even deserve a reply...

 

[Ahmad Shah Abdali]

And who the FCUK is The ministry of foreign affairs of Afghanistan. An american puppet talking crap. They have sold out their people out. They do not represent anyone. Afghanis are our brothers and we know afghanis better than indians or americans. True Afghanis would never attack pakistanis and vice versa. The only time we get these attacks either way is when there are alien elements in afghanistan like americans etc with ulterior motives.

Sure the gov of pakistan is the only country in the world which is independent, wake up son!!! Your gov will sell anything including your soil for the right price, it was US in the past now China pays better...
I am no brother of yours, we Afghans have gone through hell for the last 30 years because we always put our religion before our country, some morons might still think this way but the majority has learnt the lesson the hard way.We value our national interests and would consider even Martians our friends if it suits us.

 

[Ahmad Shah Abdali]

the good news is that we just found out that afghanistan has a MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS

We actually had Minister of foreign affairs LONG TIME before your ancestors were licking on British Imperial boots

 

[Ahmad Shah Abdali]

to be honest, i have never heard or seen Pak army attacking Afg villages. But i have heard and seen Afg's attacking Pak border posts.

The pakistani gov has to react to these news, why are they not responding to the claims? I wouldn't be surprised if it is the Taliban trying to create tension so attention can be diverted from them.In any case the pakistani gov is not acting in a responsible way, confirming the claim that it was their forces by staying quiet.

 

[Ahmad Shah Abdali]

Afghan Defence Ministry is ready to retaliate against Pakistan's missile attacks in the best possible way, a senior Afghan military official said on Wednesday.

At a press conference Defence Ministry Spokesman Gen. Zaher Azimi said around 150 missiles fired from Pakistan have landed in different regions in eastern Kunar province in the past week.

Gen. Azimi said the Pakistani missile attacks are not justifiable.

He said Afghan Defence Ministry is waiting for a decision from politicians and the House of Representatives.

"The National Army is prepared to retaliate with a suitable response if we are permitted by Afghan politicians," Gen. Azimi said. "Not only the National Army, Kunar residents would be able to give an appropriate response to such an act."

"We are making efforts to resolve the issue through diplomatic approaches."

Twenty civilians have lost their lives and some have been wounded in the attacks, according to the Defence Ministry.

Pakistan keeping up its missile attacks against Afghanistan would deteriorate relations between the two nations, Gen. Azimi said.

The Defence Ministry says it was shocked to hear about the attacks.

"I see no reason for such an attack from Pakistan. There hasn't been any attack by our troops. Without any apparent reason, they have started to fire heavy arms and most of those killed in the attacks have been civilians," Gen. Azimi said.

This is not the first time that Pakistan is targeting provinces located close to long and porous borders.

Yesterday the Afghan House of Representatives strongly criticised government's silence towards the Pakistani attacks.

Afghans Ready to Retaliate Against Pakistan Missile Attacks

 

[Ahmad Shah Abdali]

Afghan border police target Pakistani checkpoints
by Abdul Mueed Hashami on 23 June, 2011 - 12:42

JALALABAD (PAN): Afghan border police attacked checkpoints in Pakistan Wednesday night in response to recent artillery attacks from the other side of the border, an official said.

According to Eastern Zone Border Police Commander Brig. Gen. Aminullah Amarkhel, Pakistani troops have fired 15 artillery shells across the Afghan border in recent days in an effort to enforce the Durand Line, the contested border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

As a result of those recent shellings, more than 700 Afghan families fled the area, Amarkel said.

In retaliation, Afghan border police targeted Pakistani checkpoints across the border Wednesday night, Amarkhel said.

He said thousands of the people in Kunar province and Goashta district of Nangarhar province had agitated for the retaliatory attack.

In the last few years, approximately 50 meters of Afghan soil have been controlled by Pakistani troops in Goashta district, the police commander said.

He urged president Karzai and the Wolesi Jirga to work with the eastern zone border police to ensure independence from occupation by Pakistani soldiers.

He suggested that with their continuous attacks on Afghan soil, Pakistan is trying to draw the attention of the United Nation's to the contested border issue, in order to ultimately force Afghanistan to accept the Durand line.

Afghan border police target Pakistani checkpoints | Pajhwok Afghan News

Looks like not everybody in the Afghan Government is willing to deal with it in a diplomatic way, Good Job by Afghan Border Police give them hell whoever attacks us be it Taliban or our neighbours

 

[Watani]

^ Can you and some of the members grow up please? Instead of supporting these border attacks by either side, why don't you take into consideration that at the end it's the INNOCENT CIVILIANS who will lose their lives? Your government-my government arguments here are invalid and useless because while innocent people suffer from insecurity in both countries, governments are busy doing something 'more important': Suck some Dollars. These on-going border attacks should be seriously investigated, it has been going on for too long and for no reason! Indeed someone who wants world's attention to be driven away from is behind these attacks, may it be Taliban, may it even be NATO.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Ahmad Shah Abdali....Croc tears aye do participate in threads when Amreekans bomb the hell outta afghans you seem to be missing there.

 

[newdelhinsa]

Friend normally i try to keep my head cool/ control my emotions and won't argue with you about any negative remarks which Pakistani's might have given in this or any other forum where any Afghani claims are made against Pakistan. Both sides have their reasons like in case of Pakistan, we had & still suffers directly/ indirectly thru the hands of Afghanistan & its allies. I won't say that Talibs are good for Pakistan/ Afghanistan but loose guns with evil intentions/ deeds like TTP are destroying Pakistan which are mainly supported by our neighbours/ anti-pak forces (You may disagree - Well you can object). Afghans claim that Talibs are based in Pakistan and are attacking them. So why everytime Pakistan is going for fencing / mining of Borders, Allied Forces & Afghanistan are creating obstacles? Why US was going for negotiations with Talibs before leaving and if Pakistan was thinking of reconciling its issues with them since it has been on the receiving end for almost a decade but here we were & are being targeted? (Strange - Height of Hypocracy). I can write on & on but whats the use, you guys won't accept and we won't budge. Sweet & simple.

Thanks

Right,

Hate generates hate.

Afghanistan is a fiercely independent country. If Afghanistan is hostile towards Pakistan then Pakistan should endure, preserve itself and work on delivering the right message to Afghan govt. this time.

Over possessive, confronting, pre-emptive and poor timing (when executing of right foreign policy) of Pakistan is doing more wrong than any good.

Last time Pakistan had very good opportunity when Russian invasion was dealt successfully, to make better use of USA money and to make Afghanistan a stable and independent country.
Pakistan stopped to work by the rule book. The half-hearted effort to rehabilitate Afghan refugees, poor hold of govt. agencies of Pakistan on its tribal belt, cowardly supporting Taliban who were absolute bully on Pakistan as well, blindly supporting their govt. and not interfering when it was needed most at the time when they started harbouring AQ (enrooting to Afghanistan via Pakistan).

Now it’s another good opportunity for Pakistan to build good relationship with USA, all US allies and ultimately Afghanistan itself. Pakistan cannot be lucky like this every time. Now this time again USA is ready to help but Pakistan's affinity to Islamic radicals and emotional liability for such loose cannons has become very difficult to disconnect.

The impression of Pakistan's pre-emptive and possessive foreign policy is not a good read of its own capabilities. The way Pakistan has conducted its self has a body language of a hyper power of this region. How USA is going to end its presence and how it will deal with any party involve including Taliban should not be adjudged by Pakistan with her own moral calculus. USA has different priorities and Pakistan has different duties of a good neighbour, USA is not Afghanistan's neighbour but Pakistan is.

Afghanistan due to the baggage it already has is too big for Pakistan to control. Pakistan can partially handle few proxies which cannot bring stability but traction among different ethnicities of Afghanistan. There are other parties like India who have stake in Afghanistan. Pakistan's insecurities vis a vis India and previous experiences with Afghanistan are paramount when she draft its policies, which i am calling to be pre-emptive unnecessarily this time. Pakistan is not USA who can do course adjustments at whim. The gamble countries like India playing is at least not going to make any afghan govt. in power hostile if not friendly. The same should be Pakistan's priority for the time being. If Afghanistan is fiercely independent for Pakistan so is for India.

Pakistan should understand that to counter New Delhi there is no need to have strategic depth by creating unstabilty in Afghanistan .

Thanks

 

[muse]

We actually had Minister of foreign affairs LONG TIME before your ancestors were licking on British Imperial boots

Steady on - Boot licking is ancient Afghan quality that many in Pakistan share - but for you to lose your cool here - well, you know, it won't get you far - please offer more information so that we can all be on the same page - you may not know this but there have been several large attacks by persons claiming to to be Talib, from Afghan territory into Pakistani territory -- now it may be exactly as you say that this is an attempt by Talib to take attention away from themselves, alternately, and I don't know if you are aware of this, but there is some suggestion that Afghans trained and paid for by US OGA are being used to set up a precedence that will allow US forces to conduct operations in NWA - again, this may be an attempt to take attention away from the Talib -- What's should be more important is that innocents have been killed on both sides and it's best for Afghan government officials to refrain from chest thumping, it has never turned out well for them.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Pakistani Nationalist, its time you use ultimate weapon of ignore and report.

Ahmed shah this is Defence Forum not afghan restaurant keep your tone professional.

 

[alpha loin]

Afghan border police target Pakistani checkpoints
by Abdul Mueed Hashami on 23 June, 2011 - 12:42

JALALABAD (PAN): Afghan border police attacked checkpoints in Pakistan Wednesday night in response to recent artillery attacks from the other side of the border, an official said.

According to Eastern Zone Border Police Commander Brig. Gen. Aminullah Amarkhel, Pakistani troops have fired 15 artillery shells across the Afghan border in recent days in an effort to enforce the Durand Line, the contested border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

As a result of those recent shellings, more than 700 Afghan families fled the area, Amarkel said.

In retaliation, Afghan border police targeted Pakistani checkpoints across the border Wednesday night, Amarkhel said.

He said thousands of the people in Kunar province and Goashta district of Nangarhar province had agitated for the retaliatory attack.

In the last few years, approximately 50 meters of Afghan soil have been controlled by Pakistani troops in Goashta district, the police commander said.

He urged president Karzai and the Wolesi Jirga to work with the eastern zone border police to ensure independence from occupation by Pakistani soldiers.

He suggested that with their continuous attacks on Afghan soil, Pakistan is trying to draw the attention of the United Nation's to the contested border issue, in order to ultimately force Afghanistan to accept the Durand line.

Afghan border police target Pakistani checkpoints | Pajhwok Afghan News

Looks like not everybody in the Afghan Government is willing to deal with it in a diplomatic way, Good Job by Afghan Border Police give them hell whoever attacks us be it Taliban or our neighbours

who can in his right mind buy it? pakistan dont need to attack kids..... anyways if its right then please wake up ur conscious and take ur refugees back in your metropolitans and settle them there. we r now of feeding then for abt 20 yrs

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Afghan border police target Pakistani checkpoints
by Abdul Mueed Hashami on 23 June, 2011 - 12:42

JALALABAD (PAN): Afghan border police attacked checkpoints in Pakistan Wednesday night in response to recent artillery attacks from the other side of the border, an official said.

According to Eastern Zone Border Police Commander Brig. Gen. Aminullah Amarkhel, Pakistani troops have fired 15 artillery shells across the Afghan border in recent days in an effort to enforce the Durand Line, the contested border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

As a result of those recent shellings, more than 700 Afghan families fled the area, Amarkel said.

In retaliation, Afghan border police targeted Pakistani checkpoints across the border Wednesday night, Amarkhel said.

He said thousands of the people in Kunar province and Goashta district of Nangarhar province had agitated for the retaliatory attack.

In the last few years, approximately 50 meters of Afghan soil have been controlled by Pakistani troops in Goashta district, the police commander said.

He urged president Karzai and the Wolesi Jirga to work with the eastern zone border police to ensure independence from occupation by Pakistani soldiers.

He suggested that with their continuous attacks on Afghan soil, Pakistan is trying to draw the attention of the United Nation's to the contested border issue, in order to ultimately force Afghanistan to accept the Durand line.

Afghan border police target Pakistani checkpoints | Pajhwok Afghan News

Looks like not everybody in the Afghan Government is willing to deal with it in a diplomatic way, Good Job by Afghan Border Police give them hell whoever attacks us be it Taliban or our neighbours

what a retarded arguement.......... accept it or not we dont give a damn.

 

[alpha loin]

I think the puppet gov of pakistan should control its trigger happy malnourished clowns on the border since they are doing the Taliban a favour through diverting attention from them by creating tension between the two countries.

hahahahhaahaha........... we have a puppet gov. our politicians and people must se and learn from afghans, how to make an independent govt. great sir.