K-15 test likely today

[arp2041]

Reduce the payload from 1,000 kg to 450 kg (in Tomahawks), and you shall have the desired range.

O Genius!!

Isn't there a difference b/w nuclear warhead & conventional warhead.

 

[KS]

I don't find it lackluster, given that American M4 or Israeli Galil is still the mainstay of their respective army.

I hope you know that all these "models" were rejected by the Army after trials.. and seriously are you going to compare the M-4 with INSAS ?

 

[Skull and Bones]

O Genius!!

Isn't there a difference b/w nuclear warhead & conventional warhead.

A 30-40KT warhead typically weighs 300kg.

I hope you know that all these "models" were rejected by the Army after trials.. and seriously are you going to compare the M-4 with INSAS ?

Why not. Both fires the same ammo. Though INSAS is less customizable or modular. But for a nation with a large force, large scale replacement with imported weapon can have negative effects.

 

[KS]

Why not. Both fires the same ammo. Though INSAS is less customizable or modular. But for a nation with a large force, large scale replacement with imported weapon can have negative effects.

Dude are you serious ? Just because they fire the same ammo they become same ? I dont know what to say for this..And yes for a large force imported weapons are not good..so does that mean we make our soldiers do with sub-standard weapons just because an org is unwilling to bend its back and come out with a superior rifle ? You say progressive improvement..what much has improved on INSAS in the 10 years..We have our priorities mixed up..If I were the defence minister I would freeze these ballistic missile programs -except one or two mainstays and give the full focus on assault rifles, manpads and atgms.

Anyway let me not take this thread away from the topic...all the best to DRDO..

 

[faithfulguy]

Dude are you serious ? Just because they fire the same ammo they become same ? I dont know what to say for this..And yes for a large force imported weapons are not good..so does that mean we make our soldiers do with sub-standard weapons just because an org is unwilling to bend its back and come out with a superior rifle ? You say progressive improvement..what much has improved on INSAS in the 10 years..We have our priorities mixed up..If I were the defence minister I would freeze these ballistic missile programs -except one or two mainstays and give the full focus on assault rifles, manpads and atgms.

Anyway let me not take this thread away from the topic...all the best to DRDO..

well, India is the only country in the world that never had designed and build its diesel electric sub and skip on to build a nuclear sub. I won't want anyone I know to serve in this nuclear sub. Only death penalty criminals deserve to be in there.

 

[KS]

well, India is the only country in the world that never had designed and build its diesel electric sub and skip on to build a nuclear sub. I won't want anyone I know to serve in this nuclear sub. Only death penalty criminals deserve to be in there.

Thanks for your input. The door is that way.

 

[IndoUS]

Dude are you serious ? Just because they fire the same ammo they become same ? I dont know what to say for this..And yes for a large force imported weapons are not good..so does that mean we make our soldiers do with sub-standard weapons just because an org is unwilling to bend its back and come out with a superior rifle ? You say progressive improvement..what much has improved on INSAS in the 10 years..We have our priorities mixed up..If I were the defence minister I would freeze these ballistic missile programs -except one or two mainstays and give the full focus on assault rifles, manpads and atgms.

Anyway let me not take this thread away from the topic...all the best to DRDO..

They should give the development of the guns to the private sectors, the DRDO is better in developing the ballistic missiles. The OFB is going at a snails pace and should be controlled or shut down since they have struggled so much. Better let the OFB to manufacture the ammo for guns, they don't seem particularly interested in developing new things. The MoD should try out private sector, give them couple of yeas and see the results. We already have little to no response from the government run labs why not give the private sector a try.

 

[faithfulguy]

Thanks for your input. The door is that way.

well, truth hurts. Even US had many people that was killed in nuclear sub incidents. Look up at USS Thresher. Both USSR and China also had lost nuclear subs. Giving India's inability to build an assault rifle properly, its impossible for India to build the first nuclear sub successfully. I am not a betting man but if I'm, I would bet that Arihant would encounter an accident that will sink it. I would suggest that India learn from the mistakes of Arihant and retire this sub ASAP. No need to induct a trial sub anyway.

 

[IndoUS]

well, truth hurts. Even US had many people that was killed in nuclear sub incidents. Look up at USS Thresher. Both USSR and China also had lost nuclear subs. Giving India's inability to build an assault rifle properly, its impossible for India to build the first nuclear sub successfully. I am not a betting man but if I'm, I would bet that Arihant would encounter an accident that will sink it. I would suggest that India learn from the mistakes of Arihant and retire this sub ASAP. No need to induct a trial sub anyway.

Thank you for your advice i will be sure to call the higher ups and recommend for a raise.

 

[faithfulguy]

They should give the development of the guns to the private sectors, the DRDO is better in developing the ballistic missiles. The OFB is going at a snails pace and should be controlled or shut down since they have struggled so much. Better let the OFB to manufacture the ammo for guns, they don't seem particularly interested in developing new things. The MoD should try out private sector, give them couple of yeas and see the results. We already have little to no response from the government run labs why not give the private sector a try.

I hope that India can build a reliable assault rifle as well. Its just so embarrassing that India can not even build a proper rifle. NO wonder you guys need to constantly delude yourself as a superpower in the future. For example

India on 2030 - UPPI Style - YouTube

soon, it will be 2040 and than 2060.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

well, truth hurts. Even US had many people that was killed in nuclear sub incidents. Look up at USS Thresher. Both USSR and China also had lost nuclear subs. Giving India's inability to build an assault rifle properly, its impossible for India to build the first nuclear sub successfully. I am not a betting man but if I'm, I would bet that Arihant would encounter an accident that will sink it. I would suggest that India learn from the mistakes of Arihant and retire this sub ASAP. No need to induct a trial sub anyway.

They have built many small arms(off of the original INSAS), but they choose superior western ones. Isn't this what you always tell India to do in so many threads? Why do you constantly flame bait?

 

[IndoUS]

They have built many small arms(off of the original INSAS), but they choose superior western ones. Isn't this what you always tell India to do in so many threads? Why do you constantly flame bait?

Those end of the year performance reviews are coming he needs a better score otherwise no bonus.

 

[MilSpec]

well, truth hurts. Even US had many people that was killed in nuclear sub incidents. Look up at USS Thresher. Both USSR and China also had lost nuclear subs. Giving India's inability to build an assault rifle properly, its impossible for India to build the first nuclear sub successfully. I am not a betting man but if I'm, I would bet that Arihant would encounter an accident that will sink it. I would suggest that India learn from the mistakes of Arihant and retire this sub ASAP. No need to induct a trial sub anyway.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

well, truth hurts. Even US had many people that was killed in nuclear sub incidents. Look up at USS Thresher. Both USSR and China also had lost nuclear subs. Giving India's inability to build an assault rifle properly, its impossible for India to build the first nuclear sub successfully.

I thought nuclear submarine technology was more to do with miniaturization of nuclear reactor and building conventional submarine.

Going by your logicsince China didn't have indigenous designed rifle prior to launching nuclear submarine, hence Chinese first nuclear submarine wasn't successful, thanks for admitting.

I would suggest that India learn from the mistakes of Arihant and retire this sub ASAP. No need to induct a trial sub anyway.

You reach the Indian embassy here:

Address
Chancery
2107 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20008
Telephone: (202) 939-7000
Fax: (202) 265-4351

And advice our Govt them, I'm sure Indian Govt is in need of consultations from CCP certified nuclear submarine experts.

 

[faithfulguy]

They have built many small arms(off of the original INSAS), but they choose superior western ones. Isn't this what you always tell India to do in so many threads? Why do you constantly flame bait?

well, if India choose superior ones, than good for Indians. Its better to import weapons and survive a battle than buy domestic and get killed in a battle, isn't it?

I thought nuclear submarine technology was more to do with miniaturization of nuclear reactor and building conventional submarine.

Going by your logicsince China didn't have indigenous designed rifle prior to launching nuclear submarine, hence Chinese first nuclear submarine wasn't successful, thanks for admitting.



You reach the Indian embassy here:

Address
Chancery
2107 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20008
Telephone: (202) 939-7000
Fax: (202) 265-4351

And advice our Govt them, I'm sure Indian Govt is in need of consultations from CCP certified nuclear submarine experts.

well, its the life of your soldiers. don't blame me when Arihant is lost to an accident and I said "I told you so". Be wise and treat this sub as a trial sub. Do not do anything stressful with this sub that could sink it.