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Journalist Matiullah Jan goes missing

so FIA boss agreed to be scapegoat in this case epoor guy will be grilled morning in court .
what do you mean mean by scapegoat ..... ???

First thing first I have mention i clear terms that its rumour which came in my knowledge I can not confirm its authenticity ....

secondly IF you watch the video again those personnel who were in civilian dress does not appear personnel from ISI or MI from their physical features and the way they were running ..... additionally the presence of police mobile and ambulance are also indicating that they could be from any of the civilian agency ....
 
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Matiullah Jan is a big drama.A bad-mannered, foul-mouthed person.How do I know!!!!because he was my university and hostel fellow.While playing football every day he used to fight with others.
 
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So he has been released after 12 hours. It was the state that took him. This is the truth and we should face it. Under what circumstances did they detain him? Even if you wanted to question him you could've simply arrested him in his home. Twitter is already busy maligning the armed forces. With these type of schematics and theatrics the establishment is digging it's own grave.
Some of the respectable senior members were adamant it was not the state but seems like the reality is different.
@AgNoStiC MuSliM sir would like your opinion on this now.
 
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So he has been released after 12 hours. It was the state that took him. This is the truth and we should face it. Under what circumstances did they detain him? Even if you wanted to question him you could've simply arrested him in his home. Twitter is already busy maligning the armed forces. With these type of schematics and theatrics the establishment is digging it's own grave.
Some of the respectable senior members were adamant it was not the state but seems like the reality is different.
@AgNoStiC MuSliM sir would like your opinion on this now.
مطیع اللہ جان تو واپس آگئے لیکن عزیز میمن نہیں آسکتے
 
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So he has been released after 12 hours. It was the state that took him. This is the truth and we should face it. Under what circumstances did they detain him? Even if you wanted to question him you could've simply arrested him in his home. Twitter is already busy maligning the armed forces. With these type of schematics and theatrics the establishment is digging it's own grave.
Some of the respectable senior members were adamant it was not the state but seems like the reality is different.
@AgNoStiC MuSliM sir would like your opinion on this now.
My opinion is the same as my previous posts, especially my first one in this thread.
 
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So he has been released after 12 hours. It was the state that took him. This is the truth and we should face it. Under what circumstances did they detain him? Even if you wanted to question him you could've simply arrested him in his home. Twitter is already busy maligning the armed forces. With these type of schematics and theatrics the establishment is digging it's own grave.
Some of the respectable senior members were adamant it was not the state but seems like the reality is different.
@AgNoStiC MuSliM sir would like your opinion on this now.
What do you mean by state my dear friend?
 
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Just joking as how these trolls can flood the internet.

However, he was invited a bit forcefully, due to our love for him over a cup of tea and some chat.

In the end, at-least I have no interest whether the internet trolls can now brag about whatever they call it... pressure or timely action by so-called journalist.



Exactly. Hope that people may understand the same. He is back within time or either, would have been produced before the Court of Law. I am sure, no one will produce what Court further says about such short time detention.

what do you mean mean by scapegoat ..... ???

First thing first I have mention i clear terms that its rumour which came in my knowledge I can not confirm its authenticity ....

secondly IF you watch the video again those personnel who were in civilian dress does not appear personnel from ISI or MI from their physical features and the way they were running ..... additionally the presence of police mobile and ambulance are also indicating that they could be from any of the civilian agency ....

Sorry I am still recovering, albeit slowly from COVID 19, when I logged on to PDF wow whole darned conspiracy theories about Matiullah being "abducted" by LEA.

These so called rights activists must be taken to best countries like USA and UK in the post 9/11 time when people were just picked up by FBI/Home Land/MI no cases were registered till matter were taken to the court lot of hue and cry and even then their judges would decide in favor of their national agencies, they don't have people like Waqar Seth. They can detain people working against the interests of the country indefinitely. No journalist no media house except for may be tabloid would call arrests as "abduction".

First of all coming from a family having strong ties with forces I not only know Matiullah's background but his fathers's career as well, lets leave at that.

He came back home all smiles, happy and healthy. Why didnt he speak that he was "abducted" by which agency, conspiracy theorists and people creating all sorts of fantasies out of thin air had a field day.

Perhaps the same way "Mir Jaffar of Pakistan sorry Hamid Mir" was shot by LEA, strangely none of them aimed for the head/eye/heart, and Matiullah was "abducted" offered a cup of tea, a cake and them dropped back home not even hair is out of place.

Irrational attitude is perhaps built in, even idiots like Fawad Chaudhry and Shireen Mazari calling it abduction perhaps going with the tide, people who are so fond of western world should know that no one in their right mind would call such incidents as "abduction" before the law enforcement agencies. Here we toe the line of Rand** media.
 
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We can’t be sure why he was abducted or what was said to him. But given his background it’s clear whose feathers he rustled. There is no due process or rule of law here. Those men abducted him, what use are your courts and police in a democracy if some men show up in cars to take him away and then hastily flee so as not to cause a scene. Arrests happen openly and publicly, this was a sly abduction.

And I’m sure he had been threatened in the past with as much. Often times when you challenge the highest authority in the land (I’m not speaking of the courts here), you’ll be ‘invited’ to have some tea with a friendly officer who will dissuade you. If not, abduction of journalists is routine, he’s by no means the first to be abducted and he probably won’t be the last.
 
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A ridiculous fail at the job by any perspective. Why take him? Then why release so quick after the uproar if you "arresting" not "abducting"?(like so many here want convince others on) where is the explanation? Everyone pointing fingers somewhere is wrong but that somewhere is right? New low but how it is handled now matters. Its an opportunity against self by self. A Joke!
Those who compare it to SINDH incidence, unfortunate death of a journalist, yes people were not roaring about that as they should have, but where were agencies then? busy or on vacation?
 
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All those who are hellbent to prove this incident as "Abduction" need to read Chapter-V of Criminal Procedure Code of Pakistan ....
 
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Sorry I am still recovering, albeit slowly from COVID 19, when I logged on to PDF wow whole darned conspiracy theories about Matiullah being "abducted" by LEA.

These so called rights activists must be taken to best countries like USA and UK in the post 9/11 time when people were just picked up by FBI/Home Land/MI no cases were registered till matter were taken to the court lot of hue and cry and even then their judges would decide in favor of their national agencies, they don't have people like Waqar Seth. They can detain people working against the interests of the country indefinitely. No journalist no media house except for may be tabloid would call arrests as "abduction".

First of all coming from a family having strong ties with forces I not only know Matiullah's background but his fathers's career as well, lets leave at that.

He came back home all smiles, happy and healthy. Why didnt he speak that he was "abducted" by which agency, conspiracy theorists and people creating all sorts of fantasies out of thin air had a field day.

Perhaps the same way "Mir Jaffar of Pakistan sorry Hamid Mir" was shot by LEA, strangely none of them aimed for the head/eye/heart, and Matiullah was "abducted" offered a cup of tea, a cake and them dropped back home not even hair is out of place.

Irrational attitude is perhaps built in, even idiots like Fawad Chaudhry and Shireen Mazari calling it abduction perhaps going with the tide, people who are so fond of western world should know that no one in their right mind would call such incidents as "abduction" before the law enforcement agencies. Here we toe the line of Rand** media.

Didn't know about your health. Sorry for that. May ALLAH give you fast recovery and good health. Must take care of yourself brother. Hope to hear you fully recovered very soon. Eat healthy and more of desi. Steam and use kalonji (black seeds) be continued. I am sure you are following the protocol.

Rest about these activists, I agree that being too soft has took us to this day that such kind of low level trolls are now treated some kind of journalists. They all refer western democracy when it comes to an attempt to shame us but all of them conveniently ignores the fact in regard to their security parameters and powers given.

What if it was all staged? Even if it wasn't, there's law that provides power to LEAs or it is like that specific lot is untouchable.
 
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All those who are hellbent to prove this incident as "Abduction" need to read Chapter-V of Criminal Procedure Code of Pakistan ....
Dear sir, why does the government itself, all the journalists, even judiciary not read that? Don't they know that? and where is the explanation from those who read it and still let him go after hours. (My view is don't take him, if you do then don't leave him, and if u do that then u r fishy and to blame) Can any person i.e. any Pakistani, no matter what be picked up without giving a reason, whether after or before the act? The whole chapter is too big, can you point out relevant section(s) Regards.

EDIT: Relevant (and for study) from criminal code of procedure Chapter V. So the question of abduction or arrest comes down to answering the following.
Who arrest/abduct/detained him? Where was he detained? What was the basis of such act?
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Didn't know about your health. Sorry for that. May ALLAH give you fast recovery and good health. Must take care of yourself brother. Hope to hear you fully recovered very soon. Eat healthy and more of desi. Steam and use kalonji (black seeds) be continued. I am sure you are following the protocol.

Rest about these activists, I agree that being too soft has took us to this day that such kind of low level trolls are now treated some kind of journalists. They all refer western democracy when it comes to an attempt to shame us but all of them conveniently ignores the fact in regard to their security parameters and powers given.

What if it was all staged? Even if it wasn't, there's law that provides power to LEAs or it is like that specific lot is untouchable.

Thanks Bro. Two days on ventilator, A remdesivir, tons of steroid/antibiotics and multivitamins in the blood stream, about 10 kg weight loss on my already smart frame I am Alhamdolillah doing much better. 90% recovered, 10% remaining will be slow but will be Ok now on. Which is probably due to being a chain smoker once, good thing is left smoking almost 7 years ago. Have been a fan of all food mentioned in Quran and Hadith so we have olives on our farm house, figs in our house, Ajwa imported in large quantities every year, grapes, and Kalonji are part of our daily diet along desi ghee. But thanks for the kind words.

At times these people piss me off, but otherwise my take is they are a necessary evil. Let me take a step back few years back when rand** media was harping "Arab Spring" like movement in Pakistan, even my friends some of them started talking about it and I used to laugh at the idea which I found ridiculous. Pakistanis have always been a moderate society with freedom of speech way over normal required levels. We are in no way comparable to people in our south west.

These dissenter do serve a purpose and that is to keep us at the edge, keep us alive, thinking continuously for our survival, getting smarter. Stronger they become stronger becomes the collective resolve of the people of this country. They tried to break it apart, tear it up again the seeds were sown during bhutto's era, nurtured by Zia and his follower, started bearing fruits during musharrafs era and Ghaddari fully supported by the mullah brigade. But that's where every calculation of those trying to break this country apart failed, every idea, every effort failed because the collective moderate Pakistani resisted, made efforts to negate things against Pakistan.

And today well well Afghanistan will soon be cleared, Iran is having difficulty (many reason but some other times), our south western "so called brothers" sitting on a time bomb which is ticking, uncle same in a sh*t hole, so is west and our dearly beloved western neighbor we all know they are exactly where we were back in 2000s.

So while I abhor these rights activists, they are serving their purpose, as for Pakistan like many other firm believers no force on earth can now undo Pakistan. Try to break us we will become stronger and more united, challenge our ideology we will search it out even if didn't know about it and we will bind to our original ideology stronger than ever, our country is a miracle, our survival as a country as a nation is a miracle and yet we are still here. We will still be here more stronger when those trying to break us will cease to exist in current geographical form. Period!
 
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