Jordanian King Abdullah, himself a pilot, will fly sorties on ISIS targets.

[SipahSalar]

It's not limited, there are almost 30 sorties on average per day. Their strikes are spread throughout span of years. So it is going to be less intense then say Israeli attacks on Palestinians.

Are you telling me that after 6 months of "intensive" bombing, only Kobane has been retaken?

 

[Falcon29]

Are you telling me that after 6 months of "intensive" bombing, only Kobane has been retaken?

More than Kobane has been taken. But large concentration of air strikes occur in northern Kurdish areas in Iraq.

@1000

Knows exactly what has been recaptured.

 

[pak-marine]

Jordan should avoid sending ground troops as this is what daesh/isis wants stick to air campaign and bomb the fck out of them

 

[al-Hasani]

I advise against Arab deployement. Unless members of coalition also pitch in 40-60k troops. Arabs will pitch in 20k. This coalition needs to prove to us that isn't another project to divide to the ME through these very shadowy organizations. Problem is they already succeeded in implementing new middle east.

My view regarding all this.

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More than Kobane has been taken. But large concentration of air strikes occur in northern Kurdish areas in Iraq.

@1000

Knows exactly what has been recaptured.

Most of the recaptured towns and villages in Iraq happened due to local Sunni Arab volunteers and Shia Arab militias who did the job on the ground with limited aerial support. Mainly in Babil Province, Diyala (which is almost 100% free of Daesh outside of pockets in Northern Diyala which is administrated by Kurds) and Salah-ad-Din. Also some areas of Eastern Al-Anbar close to Baghdad.

Jordan should avoid sending ground troops as this is what daesh/isis wants stick to air campaign and bomb the fck out of them

Exactly. Besides Jordan alone will make little difference. Ground troops can only be send the day a coalition force is established by the West and regional powers (KSA, Turkey etc.). Then we can talk.

 

[1000]

Locals in my example = Daesh supporters. There are enough of them in Al-Anbar as you already know. What does it matter that more locals do not support Daesh if the Jordanian forces will be under similar or even bigger threat than the Iraqi forces who are losing hundreds of men each week almost? Forces that know the terrain and many are locals from Anbar themselves yet they are still attacked. The risks are bigger than the potential gain.

Jordan should stick to aerial bombardments until a coalition has been established that is willing to send ground troops. Jordan cannot do the job alone.

If they want revenge they can execute all the retards on death row instead of not touching them for 10 years.

Why not take the risks, 300 ground troops deployed to Asad air base is enough, from there they can take a lot revenge with US air cover & other ground troops. We will all die anyway, soldiers have a job why not let them do it. In the west soldiers want to be deployed, that's why they joined in the first place. Jordan isn't going to run out of manpower.

Ahmed al Jabour requested help from Arabs, he says they aren't helping. Anbar officials requested 10.000 US forces, so they would welcome other forces as well.

More than Kobane has been taken. But large concentration of air strikes occur in northern Kurdish areas in Iraq.

@1000

Knows exactly what has been recaptured.

Most land recaptured is in Iraq, in Syria the attacks are on ISIS strongholds to weaken them.

 

[al-Hasani]

Why not take the risks, 300 ground troops deployed to Asad air base is enough, from there they can take a lot revenge with US air cover & other ground troops. We will all die anyway, soldiers have a job why not let them do it. In the west soldiers want to be deployed, that's why they joined in the first place. Jordan isn't going to run out of manpower.

Ahmed al Jabour requested help from Arabs, he says they aren't helping. Anbar officials requested 10.000 US forces, so they would welcome other forces as well.



Most land recaptured is in Iraq, in Syria the attacks are on ISIS strongholds to weaken them.

Well, I am by principle against taking non-calculated risks on every field here in life. The risk assessment should always follow the potential gain. In this case I do not see the gains clearly. To me it sounds like a headless move just to take revenge. Do that by increasing the aerial bombardments. By executing all Daesh retards once and for all. Work towards establishing a real coalition on the ground. Then we can talk. Jordan alone won't do much.

Besides there are all the dangers of sending ground troops to fight Daesh. Will this mean an increased threat of Deash retards in the Arab countries sending ground troops against Deash? Could such an increased unrest transform to a civil war or just an prolonged armed conflict? Jordan has a lot to loose. You should really understand that Jordan is not a resource rich country. Not only that it's home to millions of refugees that are draining the economy. The Jordanian army is a very strong one compared to its size but Jordan is surrounded by conflicts on every border now outside of the Saudi Arabian border which might be the longest but still.

Such things should be closely studied. Yes, we are all going to die but why run blindfolded across a busy street when you can find more intelligent options if you want action?

 

[elszADaQ]

Well, I am by principle against taking non-calculated risks on every field here in life. The risk assessment should always follow the potential gain. In this case I do not see the gains clearly. To me it sounds like a headless move just to take revenge. Do that by increasing the aerial bombardments. By executing all Daesh retards once and for all. Work towards establishing a real coalition on the ground. Then we can talk. Jordan alone won't do much.

Besides there are all the dangers of sending ground troops to fight Daesh. Will this mean an increased threat of Deash retards in the Arab countries sending ground troops against Deash? Could such an increased unrest transform to a civil war or just an prolonged armed conflict? Jordan has a lot to loose. You should really understand that Jordan is not a resource rich country. Not only that it's home to millions of refugees that are draining the economy. The Jordanian army is a very strong one compared to its size but Jordan is surrounded by conflicts on every border now outside of the Saudi Arabian border which might be the longest but still.

Such things should be closely studied. Yes, we are all going to die but why run blindfolded across a busy street when you can find more intelligent options if you want action?

I can't wait to see the Jordanians fighting shoulder to shoulder with FSA forces against daesh gangs. Jordanian special forces on the ground inside Syria would not only rejuvenate the Free Syrian Army but also genocidal asshead will burn in annoyance.

 

[al-Hasani]

I can't wait to see the Jordanians fighting shoulder to shoulder with FSA forces against daesh gangs. Jordanian special forces on the ground inside Syria would not only rejuvenate the Free Syrian Army but also genocidal asshead will burn in annoyance.

That would be ideal brother. Taking out more than one group of sewer rats at once. Still I have to say that I do not believe that a single country is going to send ground troops unless a coalition of Western and regional countries is created. I am not against that. But such a coalition should fight against not only Daesh/Al-Nusra but the other side of the same coin (Al-Asshead's genocidal regime) as well. Otherwise the problems will not be solved and the hypocrisy would be clear too. It would be high treason to the 200.000 Syrian victims of Al-Asshead's genocidal regime. Don't take half of the sewer rats out. Take them all out if you want the pipes to be safe, lol.

 

[PATHAN786KING]

If they defeat the ISIS and deliver the region from them, the reconstruction that follows will most definitely see an independent Kurdish state.

They would have earned it. And would be the conquering army holding ground anyways.

true if ISIS defeated then kurd have independent kurdistan

 

[flamer84]

That would be ideal brother. Taking out more than one group of sewer rats at once. Still I have to say that I do not believe that a single country is going to send ground troops unless a coalition of Western and regional countries is created. I am not against that. But such a coalition should fight against not only Daesh/Al-Nusra but the other side of the same coin (Al-Asshead's genocidal regime) as well. Otherwise the problems will not be solved and the hypocrisy would be clear too. It would be high treason to the 200.000 Syrian victims of Al-Asshead's genocidal regime. Don't take half of the sewer rats out. Take them all out if you want the pipes to be safe, lol.

Western troops on the ground will be labelled crusaders ,as per usual custom.It's better that local powers deal with it,those in the Northern border of Syria and those a little further South.

 

[Ceylal]

It's not limited, there are almost 30 sorties on average per day. Their strikes are spread throughout span of years. So it is going to be less intense then say Israeli attacks on Palestinians.

Contribution of the Arab forces is nil non existent! and the one that were participating stopped after the Jordanian pilot was caught for fear that their pilots suffer the same fate. Most of them didn't participate since December, even Morocco recalled her 4 F-16 that were based in the UAE. That the spirit of the Arab forces...you cannot make a horse out of a mule!

 

[Ceylal]

Western troops on the ground will be labelled crusaders ,as per usual custom.It's better that local powers deal with it,those in the Northern border of Syria and those a little further South.

Local power? not such a word in that area... They always farmed out their fight since those state were created by the Brits.

 

[al-Hasani]

Western troops on the ground will be labelled crusaders ,as per usual custom.It's better that local powers deal with it,those in the Northern border of Syria and those a little further South.

West = USA. The Americans have not been shy to invade majority Muslim countries in the past. I am sure that most Syrians would welcome them with open hands like most Iraqis did if the goal is to remove the Daesh sewer rats and the Al-Asshead sewer rats. Especially if regional Muslim countries were involved. Would give "legitimacy".

 

[flamer84]

Local power? not such a word in that area... They always farmed out their fight since those state were created by the Brits.

Turkey is in the north.

 

[flamer84]

West = USA. The Americans have not been shy to invade majority Muslim countries. I am sure that most Syrians would welcome them with open hands like most Iraqis did if the goal is to remove the Daesh sewer rats and the Al-Asshead sewer rats.

Yeah but i think they had enough of invasions.I know,you would argue that they created the Iraqi mess in the first place but let's remember that a reasonable peace was achieved which might have lasted if not for Maliki's discrimination.As for Syria,that's totally an internal matter .

I can't really believe that a Turkey+ Saudi Arabia+ UAE+Iraq+ Egypt can't defeat Daesh.What use is there in inflamming spirits by bringing in non Muslim troops ? You know very well as i do that before we know it we will have titles like "crusaders invade Muslim lands","US troops kill civilians",etc,etc.