Jordanian Armed Forces JAF

[Mhmoud]

I think Jordan wants a fifth gen fighter but I could be wrong. Israel will block F-35 sale to them so they need some stealth fighter like SU-57, or a non-stealth but still good fighter like the SU-35.

Also, F-16V will make the F-16s in Jordanian inventory killer. AESA radar is very advanced and the avionics and performance are upgraded a lot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/APG-83


Brother, is the US funding the upgrade? It looks like the US air force is but I'm unsure if it is.

Although being able to buy a stealth fighter is a good thing, and other larger states in the Arab world might need them, i personally believe that there really is no point in buying an F-35 or any other stealth fightrs, as their "stealth" diminishes with distance, and Israel is like 40km max. This means that the effects of stealth are drastically diminished in the case of any hostility between the two states, and the best bet is to get stuff that can detect it and take it down without being vulnerable to standoff munitions. otherwise, if jordan needed an F-35 purchase, then it would most likely be used in other battlefields, which seems a bit unlikely, to be honest.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Although being able to buy a stealth fighter is a good thing, and other larger states in the Arab world might need them, i personally believe that there really is no point in buying an F-35 or any other stealth fightrs, as their "stealth" diminishes with distance, and Israel is like 40km max. This means that the effects of stealth are drastically diminished in the case of any hostility between the two states, and the best bet is to get stuff that can detect it and take it down without being vulnerable to standoff munitions. otherwise, if jordan needed an F-35 purchase, then it would most likely be used in other battlefields, which seems a bit unlikely, to be honest.

Iran? If Jordan stays with the GCC, and the US politically than a war with Iran is inevitable unless of course Jordan stays neutral.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Nigeria seems to like the KADDB turrets which are simple but provide a well-protected environment for gunners on vehicles. It is on Streit group vehicles, and Paramount vehicles as well.

 

[Philip the Arab]

@Nashab @Wilhelm II

What do you think about Jordan phasing out all non-indigenous firearms that are aging and replacing them with Jordanian rifles? Jordan can replace M16, M4, sniper rifles. In the future if that was done further guns like machineguns, grenade-launchers, shotguns, sub-machine guns, and heavier weapons can be developed.

KADDB rifles made in Jordan used in KASOTC special ops training center.

Full line of rifles that JAWS should make for JAF and export.

.50 cal rifle to replace current anti-material rifles in service.

Bolt action sniper rifle to replace all bolt action rifles in Jordanian service being produced by KADDB.

20 inch barrel KADDB is producing that can replace auto-sniper rifles.

14.5 inch barrel that can replace M4 and M16 in Jordanian inventory.

11.5 and 10 inch barrel that can replace CQB rifles.

SMG version of JAR-556? It can replace all current SMGs in Jordanian service.



Shotgun version of JAR-556? It can be like the Turkish MKA-1919 and replace all shotguns in Jordanian service. The ammo is 12 gauge as you can see from the magazine.

Squad Automatic Weapon version of JAR-556 that can replace all Jordanian versions. Increase firing rate, and increase the ability to change barrel and you have a deadly machine gun.


Revolver grenade launcher like the Milkor that will help Jordan replace all other stand alone grenade launcher in service.

Automatic grenade launcher could be made to replace the MK19 but analyzing the way it works and building a function weapon on the same principle.

These are just some of my suggestions for what the JAWS line should look like in the future.

 

[Wilhelm II]

A question is in my mind fol long time what snack head have special? I can't understand why they built a manned turret and why it is famous in Jordanian products?

@Nashab @Wilhelm II

What do you think about Jordan phasing out all non-indigenous firearms that are aging and replacing them with Jordanian rifles? Jordan can replace M16, M4, sniper rifles. In the future if that was done further guns like machineguns, grenade-launchers, shotguns, sub-machine guns, and heavier weapons can be developed.

KADDB rifles made in Jordan used in KASOTC special ops training center.

Full line of rifles that JAWS should make for JAF and export.

.50 cal rifle to replace current anti-material rifles in service.

Bolt action sniper rifle to replace all bolt action rifles in Jordanian service being produced by KADDB.

20 inch barrel KADDB is producing that can replace auto-sniper rifles.

14.5 inch barrel that can replace M4 and M16 in Jordanian inventory.

11.5 and 10 inch barrel that can replace CQB rifles.

SMG version of JAR-556? It can replace all current SMGs in Jordanian service.



Shotgun version of JAR-556? It can be like the Turkish MKA-1919 and replace all shotguns in Jordanian service. The ammo is 12 gauge as you can see from the magazine.

Squad Automatic Weapon version of JAR-556 that can replace all Jordanian versions. Increase firing rate, and increase the ability to change barrel and you have a deadly machine gun.


Revolver grenade launcher like the Milkor that will help Jordan replace all other stand alone grenade launcher in service.

Automatic grenade launcher could be made to replace the MK19 but analyzing the way it works and building a function weapon on the same principle.

These are just some of my suggestions for what the JAWS line should look like in the future.

I think Jordan should work in middle west and east standards and make modular small arms . Jordan must have all them and more and I think germans have best guns for Jordanian armed forces

 

[Philip the Arab]

A question is in my mind fol long time what snack head have special? I can't understand why they built a manned turret and why it is famous in Jordanian products?


I think Jordan should work in middle west and east standards and make modular small arms . Jordan must have all them and more and I think germans have best guns for Jordanian armed forces

What it has better than standard turrets is protection all around. Most turrets with just the gunner are vulnerable to getting shot and killed and the snakehead eliminates that.

Would you rather be in this?


Or this?

The answer is obvious and that the snakehead is cheaper than a RWS but better than just a turret without protection.


Also took a screenshot of KADDB rifles being used for training in Jordan

 

[Wilhelm II]

What it has better than standard turrets is protection all around. Most turrets with just the gunner are vulnerable to getting shot and killed and the snakehead eliminates that.

Would you rather be in this?


Or this?

The answer is obvious and that the snakehead is cheaper than a RWS but better than just a turret without protection.


Also took a screenshot of KADDB rifles being used for training in Jordan
View attachment 559103

I am completely justified thanks bro

 

[Khafee]

What it has better than standard turrets is protection all around. Most turrets with just the gunner are vulnerable to getting shot and killed and the snakehead eliminates that.

Would you rather be in this?


Or this?

The answer is obvious and that the snakehead is cheaper than a RWS but better than just a turret without protection.


Also took a screenshot of KADDB rifles being used for training in Jordan
View attachment 559103

I'd rather be in this

 

[Philip the Arab]

I'd rather be in this
View attachment 559106

Yeah RWS are good and Jordan recently developed one so we're good.

Watch the video from the last 23 seconds and you can see the turret moving in the background.

https://www.defensenews.com/digital...ller-vehicles-as-critical-for-mideast-combat/

 

[Wilhelm II]

At the all at least one Arab country should work on laser and railgun weapons

 

[Philip the Arab]

@Nashab @Wilhelm II
Does Jordan need a small air transportable vehicle for paratroopers? It could help with paratroopers deployment of armored vehicle on battlefield and even be transportable by Mi-26. The design is relatively simple and its something that 100% KADDB could do and it could be exported to operators of C-130.

Something like the German Wiesel which can fulfill a lot of roles like air-defense, fire-support, APC.

Wiesel 2 air defense

Scout vehicle

Ambulance vehicle

Command post variant

120mm variant

20mm variant



If it can fit in a helicopter with a smaller cargo bay than the Mi-26 than it can surely fit in a Mi-26.


Mi-26 is way wider

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiesel_AWC

You also have to consider export possibilities like Saudi Arabia, and other Arab countries that have big helicopters that can transport vehicles like this like CH-47 or Super Puma.

 

[Wilhelm II]

@Nashab @Wilhelm II
Does Jordan need a small air transportable vehicle for paratroopers? It could help with paratroopers deployment of armored vehicle on battlefield and even be transportable by Mi-26. The design is relatively simple and its something that 100% KADDB could do and it could be exported to operators of C-130.

Something like the German Wiesel which can fulfill a lot of roles like air-defense, fire-support, APC.

Wiesel 2 air defense

Scout vehicle

Ambulance vehicle

Command post variant

120mm variant

20mm variant



If it can fit in a helicopter with a smaller cargo bay than the Mi-26 than it can surely fit in a Mi-26.


Mi-26 is way wider

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiesel_AWC

You also have to consider export possibilities like Saudi Arabia, and other Arab countries that have big helicopters that can transport vehicles like this like CH-47 or Super Puma.

I think in future wars an army need high speed helicopters like raider. This vehicle have light armour and not good even for terrorists weapons. Maybe heavy transport aircraft are better because Jordan nature majority is flat . I'm not sure that is useable for today

 

[Philip the Arab]

I think in future wars an army need high speed helicopters like raider. This vehicle have light armour and not good even for terrorists weapons. Maybe heavy transport aircraft are better because Jordan nature majority is flat . I'm not sure that is useable for today

The reason these vehicles are not armored very well are because they need to be light and droppable by air and transportable by helicopter. APS will protect these vehicles pretty well from terrorist, and ATGM threats. You have to recognize the sale potential for countries like Saudi Arabia who operate a lot of CH-47 Chinook in which one of these can fit it and the amount you can sell to them. Raider is a new concept but I agree fast helicopters are the future, as well as V-22 type aircraft.

 

[Nashab]

@Nashab @Wilhelm II
Does Jordan need a small air transportable vehicle for paratroopers? It could help with paratroopers deployment of armored vehicle on battlefield and even be transportable by Mi-26. The design is relatively simple and its something that 100% KADDB could do and it could be exported to operators of C-130.

Something like the German Wiesel which can fulfill a lot of roles like air-defense, fire-support, APC.

Wiesel 2 air defense

Scout vehicle

Ambulance vehicle

Command post variant

120mm variant

20mm variant



If it can fit in a helicopter with a smaller cargo bay than the Mi-26 than it can surely fit in a Mi-26.


Mi-26 is way wider

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiesel_AWC

You also have to consider export possibilities like Saudi Arabia, and other Arab countries that have big helicopters that can transport vehicles like this like CH-47 or Super Puma.

There are armored Land Cruiser vehicles for rapid reaction forces with MANPADS or Kornet-E or TOW or a 12.7 mm submachine gun

 

[Philip the Arab]

@Nashab

LNA bought Al-Mared 8x8. Exciting news.