Joint military industry project for Arab world?

[FunkyGen]

Hehehe - that is a correct saying but there is also another saying that says that you should only spend as much as your pocket allows. I don't think there is anything wrong in cooperating with other nations including the Arab world. Interacting with foreign countries makes us better and wiser.

The best we can do is develop our arms industry and depute manpower to the Arabs..... For now they like French tho...
And i mean technical human resource....

 

[haman10]

Arabs..... the word says it all
Anyways best of luck if you can

arabs are not dumb ppl obviously , if u think otherwise , you're - biologically speaking - wrong and a racist ( i know you're not - just saying)

their education systems are pure failures , their leaders are a$$holes with palaces and shyte , their intrapersonal IQ is low (as opposed to logical IQ - basically intrapersonal IQ is about making strategic decisions and thinking in future and has nothing to do with the logical IQ which says who is dumb and who is smart) .

they are super proud and supermacist for no apparent reason . they are so involved in their proud that they are killing each other just to challenge iran .

and again , the most important part , system failure . their educational system sucks !! ppl have no motivation to study and do research

this is the reason why iran produces 0.2 percent more science than the whole arab world !!!! can u believe that ? wtf !!

they also like fooling themselves and wont accept the reality , instead they scream at u and throw racist rants

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

@al-Hasani @Arabian Legend @Yzd Khalifa @JUBA @Ahmed Jo @Mahmoud_EGY @Skorpian and other Arab members.

Would appreciate your inputs.



Come on guys, a serious discussion, not jokes and insults.

our military industry is doing good even if sometimes funds are a problem we produce arms according to our need . more arab cooperation would make things a lot better

 

[Falcon29]

@haman10

You made some good points.

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@Desert Fox

Agreed.

@Mahmoud_EGY

Can you tell us more about the military industry in Egypt.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

@haman10

You made some good points.

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@Desert Fox

Agreed.

@Mahmoud_EGY

Can you tell us more about the military industry in Egypt.

i think frogman would be better than me in this
from wiki
Military Industry
In addition to importing weapons, Egypt maintains a large industrial fortress as it's military industry is considered the most important in the Arab World. State-owned enterprises which lays under control of the Armament Authority headed by a major general, are the main domestic producers of Egypt's defense systems.

Arab Organization for Industrialization, with has about 19,000 employees out of which are 1250 engineers, more than nine military factories producing both civilian and military products is considered Egypt military's most important domestic weapons supplier.

Egypt's Main battle tank the M1 Abrams is made locally under license in addition to Egyptian-Upgraded Ramses II, T-62 and T-45E. Egyptian Military industry includes Sakr Eye missiles ,(Nile 23, Sinai 23) Self-propelled air defense, RPGs. K-8E Trainer aircrafts, in addition to aircrafts overhaul and maintenance.

Locally made military vehicles include various Fahd APCs and IFVs, EFIVs, SIFV, Walid MKII, Jeep Wrangler TJL, Jeep J8, Kader-320 armored vehicle, Mercedes G-320 armored vehicle ,Iveco VM 90 and Hotspur HUSSARD.

Egypt also locally produce small arms such as Helwan, Helwan 920 guns, Misr machine gun, Maadi assault rifles, FN Minimi, FN MAG, SG-43 Goryunov, MK19.
Egyptian Armed Forces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

their education systems are pure failures , their leaders are a$$holes with palaces and shyte

Safavids

As a matter of fact, the literacy rate in Iran is below %86 while it is %96 in KSA.


But then It all depends on what country are we taking about. There are 20 country and something Arab states, of which each one has an educational system with its pros and cons.

Saudi education catching up with world’s best | Arab News — Saudi Arabia News, Middle East News, Opinion, Economy and more.
UAE system of education scores high | GulfNews.com

Education forum in Riyadh showcases latest technology | Economy | Saudi Gazette

UNICEF Egypt - Education - Education

their intrapersonal IQ is low (as opposed to logical IQ - basically intrapersonal IQ is about making strategic decisions and thinking in future and has nothing to do with the logical IQ which says who is dumb and who is smart) .

The Intrapersonal IQ is a tool that doesn't have to produce a strategic view point or a decision or a lay-out vision on its own, it is all about the communicative sense. In addition, unlike Iran where the Mullahs - which I can possibly imagine - the decision-making process, implementation, and reviews isn't left to one or two or three persons here, but rather many.

they are super proud and supermacist for no apparent reason . they are so involved in their proud that they are killing each other just to challenge iran .

It's Iranians who have been dying for siding with one faction or another. Iranians are butchered everywhere, not just in the Arab world but beyond:

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...ttack-kills-23-near-Pakistan-Iran-border.html

Iranian pilot 'killed fighting in Iraq': state media - Yahoo News

http://online.wsj.com/articles/iran...-in-iraq-fighting-sunni-extremists-1402943891

BBC News - Iranian workers killed in Iraq pipeline attack

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...Former-Iranian-commander-killed-in-Syria.html

Iranian envoy killed in Yemen kidnap attempt - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

Suicide bombers target Iranian embassy in Beirut, Lebanon, killing 23 - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

PressTV - Ten more Iranian prisoners executed in Saudi city of Dammam: Report

Basically, Iranians are slaughtered everywhere in the ME, beyond. But that isn't just it. The Iranians starve their people to death while bankrolling their pawns abroad.

and again , the most important part , system failure . their educational system sucks !! ppl have no motivation to study and do research

Only the "Anti-Estkbar" factions study and do research Can't you see how prosperous Iran is? Is this is why you ran with your tail upward to Geneva begging the West for some hundreds millions.

this is the reason why iran produces 0.2 percent more science than the whole arab world !!!! can u believe that ? wtf !!

Iran outputs is 0, other than lashing themselves, nothing comes ahead, unlike many others Arab nations.

they also like fooling themselves and wont accept the reality , instead they scream at u and throw racist rants

Iranians often regard themselves as if they were superior race when they compare themselves with the rest of other races on this planet.

arabs are not dumb ppl obviously , if u think otherwise , you're - biologically speaking - wrong and a racist ( i know you're not - just saying)

their education systems are pure failures , their leaders are a$$holes with palaces and shyte , their intrapersonal IQ is low (as opposed to logical IQ - basically intrapersonal IQ is about making strategic decisions and thinking in future and has nothing to do with the logical IQ which says who is dumb and who is smart) .

they are super proud and supermacist for no apparent reason . they are so involved in their proud that they are killing each other just to challenge iran .

and again , the most important part , system failure . their educational system sucks !! ppl have no motivation to study and do research

this is the reason why iran produces 0.2 percent more science than the whole arab world !!!! can u believe that ? wtf !!

they also like fooling themselves and wont accept the reality , instead they scream at u and throw racist rants

 

[haman10]

Safavids

donno where safavids have kicked u , but since your ar$e is burning ...... @rmi5 knows what i'm talking abt

proud to be safavid

As a matter of fact, the literacy rate in Iran is below %86 while it is %96 in KSA.

haha

you're so good in copy pasting links , have u ever bothered to read any of them ?

dummA$$ , literacy rate in iran is abt 98% . read this , and put in your shytty mind :

Literacy rate, youth female (% of females ages 15-24) in Iran was 98.52 as of 2008. Its highest value over the past 32 years was 98.52 in 2008, while its lowest value was 42.33 in 1976.

Definition: Youth literacy rate is the percentage of people ages 15-24 who can, with understanding, read and write a short, simple statement on their everyday life.

Source: United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) Institute for Statistics.

Iran - Literacy rate

Education in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

also probably the US literacy rate is lower than saudia

According to a study conducted in late April by the U.S. Department of Education and the National Institute of Literacy, 32 million adults in the U.S. can't read. That's 14 percent of the population. 21 percent of adults in the U.S. read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high school graduates can't read.



point is , that literacy rate doesnt worth shyte

The U.S. Illiteracy Rate Hasn't Changed In 10 Years

Literacy in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

just take PDF for example saudi members are a bunch of illiterate trolls , whereas iranian members are top notch engineers , doctors and surgeons

says it all , doesnt it ?

It's Iranians who have been dying for siding with one faction or another. Iranians are butchered everywhere, not just in the Arab world but beyond:

they killed a ten-times higher number of saudi terroristz before they died be sure abt that

Nearly 10,000 foreign terrorists killed in Syria war

Wanted Saudi al Qaeda terrorist killed in Syria - Israel News, Ynetnews

Tasnim News Agency - Syrian Army Foils Attack in Idlib, Kills Saudi Terrorist

ran outputs is 0, other than lashing themselves, nothing comes ahead, unlike many others Arab nations.

yeah , you're right . you guys are major science producers you own science

and the statistics are saying shyte

science production by country :

iran = 15th in world

saudi = shyte

SJR - International Science Ranking

also , in your dumb face :

Iran showing fastest scientific growth of any country - science-in-society - 18 February 2010 - New Scientist

see ? i can also copy paste links ? enough time wasted on u ..... going to hospital (where i am a doctor ) so i wont be here to reply to your next dumb rants . chao , but get a life , find a job and stop jerking off

 

[Bubblegum Crisis]

I believe there's threads in this section about Saudi/UAE/Jordan military industry but i can't find them, hopefully @BLACKEAGLE
Or
@Arabian Legend
Will link us to those threads

Password Vimeo video : AdamaBattlestar

See here :

Saudi Air, Land, Naval Forces & SANG | Page 161

Saudi Advanced Electronic Company gains approved avionics repair status for Typhoon jets

 

[viper46]

well its too late for any joint military or joint defence pact... arabs are history

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

donno where safavids have kicked u , but since your ar$e is burning ...... @rmi5 knows what i'm talking abt

Safavids are gone for good, the only good Safavid is a dead one.

proud to be safavid

You must have got an A with its plus in your history classes

haha

you're so good in copy pasting links , have u ever bothered to read any of them ?

dummA$$ , literacy rate in iran is abt 98% . read this , and put in your shytty mind :

You're a perpetuating lair.

I didn't post any link related to Iran's literacy rate. If you care to re-read my post, you will see that I made a factual statement without represent a piece of evidence to back it up with.

Literacy rate, youth female (% of females ages 15-24) in Iran was 98.52 as of 2008. Its highest value over the past 32 years was 98.52 in 2008, while its lowest value was 42.33 in 1976.

Definition: Youth literacy rate is the percentage of people ages 15-24 who can, with understanding, read and write a short, simple statement on their everyday life.

Source: United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) Institute for Statistics.

The literacy rate you posted was for YOUTH FEMALE and NOT the total of Iran's literacy rate which is mentioned at the bottom of the page, as this:

Literacy rate, adult total (% of people ages 15 and above) in Iran was 85.02 as of 2008. Its highest value over the past 32 years was 85.02 in 2008, while its lowest value was 36.52 in 1976.

Definition: Adult literacy rate is the percentage of people ages 15 and above who can, with understanding, read and write a short, simple statement on their everyday life.

Source: United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) Institute for Statistics.

just take PDF for example saudi members are a bunch of illiterate trolls , whereas iranian members are top notch engineers , doctors and surgeons

I don't take random testimonies for granted, that's what I learned. You are an Iranian though, your prestige matches your supremacist ego.

they killed a ten-times higher number of saudi terroristz before they died be sure abt that

Only one that I'm so, so sure of, that's Iranians are slaughtered everywhere. From Pakistan to Yemen, in conflict zones and in none conflict zone. Continuing this approach, will make your life's twice miserable than what it is now.

yeah , you're right . you guys are major science producers you own science

and the statistics are saying shyte

science production by country :

iran = 15th in world

saudi = shyte

SJR - International Science Ranking

A- I never made a reference to science.
B- I never said claimed that I personally own science.
D- I don't take random, baseless, stupid, nationalistic, propagandistic, egotistical, supremacist attitude seriously. Nice try though.

see ? i can also copy paste links ? enough time wasted on u

Please don't your thematic representations chuckle me to the core Next I expect it to be such a huge deal

going to hospital (where i am a doctor ) so i wont be here to reply to your next dumb rants . chao , but get a life , find a job and stop jerking off

I care less about where are you heading to my dear. But having seen you exposing your mindset by your own self, with means of your own, I hardly think that someone like you would save someone else's life, period.

donno where safavids have kicked u , but since your ar$e is burning ...... @rmi5 knows what i'm talking abt

proud to be safavid


haha

you're so good in copy pasting links , have u ever bothered to read any of them ?

dummA$$ , literacy rate in iran is abt 98% . read this , and put in your shytty mind :

Literacy rate, youth female (% of females ages 15-24) in Iran was 98.52 as of 2008. Its highest value over the past 32 years was 98.52 in 2008, while its lowest value was 42.33 in 1976.

Definition: Youth literacy rate is the percentage of people ages 15-24 who can, with understanding, read and write a short, simple statement on their everyday life.

Source: United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) Institute for Statistics.

Iran - Literacy rate

Education in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

also probably the US literacy rate is lower than saudia

According to a study conducted in late April by the U.S. Department of Education and the National Institute of Literacy, 32 million adults in the U.S. can't read. That's 14 percent of the population. 21 percent of adults in the U.S. read below a 5th grade level, and 19 percent of high school graduates can't read.



point is , that literacy rate doesnt worth shyte

The U.S. Illiteracy Rate Hasn't Changed In 10 Years

Literacy in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

just take PDF for example saudi members are a bunch of illiterate trolls , whereas iranian members are top notch engineers , doctors and surgeons

says it all , doesnt it ?



they killed a ten-times higher number of saudi terroristz before they died be sure abt that

Nearly 10,000 foreign terrorists killed in Syria war

Wanted Saudi al Qaeda terrorist killed in Syria - Israel News, Ynetnews

Tasnim News Agency - Syrian Army Foils Attack in Idlib, Kills Saudi Terrorist





yeah , you're right . you guys are major science producers you own science

and the statistics are saying shyte

science production by country :

iran = 15th in world

saudi = shyte

SJR - International Science Ranking

also , in your dumb face :

Iran showing fastest scientific growth of any country - science-in-society - 18 February 2010 - New Scientist

see ? i can also copy paste links ? enough time wasted on u ..... going to hospital (where i am a doctor ) so i wont be here to reply to your next dumb rants . chao , but get a life , find a job and stop jerking off

 

[-SINAN-]

Once i have said a similar thing.....

Drop Turkey's defence giants in the middle like TAI, Roketsan, Aselsan, Tubitak Sage, etc...

GCC will fund it. In return we will set up Joint Production centers in Egypt, Jordan, Algeria with ToT. Afterwards everyone will be happy with their NATO grade new weapons.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

For once can we stop blaming one and other and talking about religious views.

Muslim world comprises of 76 states rich and poor. They all posses some kind of trade be it in weapons, education, training man power etc...
Lets take a few common examples:

Turkey Produces War Ships, Helicopters, Tanks, Apc's and Drones.
Iran Produces War Ships, Helicopters, Tanks, Drones and Aircraft.
Pakistan Produces War Ships, Tanks, Drones and Aircraft
Indonesia Produces War Ships, Helicopters and Transport Aircraft.

If these 4 only unite they would have a complete solution for defence needs of any Country in the world.

 

[Zhukov]

Funny such important idea is discussed on private forums and Arabs dont give shit about it.
That amount of defence spendings backed by western experts can become a csndyland. But i believe daddy US can never let it haooen as it will dry uo the orecious billions of dollsrs paid by GCC countries for weapons import

 

[Informant]

Arab league is like a 1000 sheep lead by a few German Shepherds. The Arab league can become a superpower if they unite into a federation to realize their people's collective goals. They let petty differences and inbuilt racism take hold instead of looking at the bigger picture.

All projects start with political will - continue with political will and complete with political will. Pakistan started its nuclearisation program by the political will of PM Bhutto, who pledged to eat grass if needed to make it happen. Today we not only have Nukes but also a nuclear industry which is at the forefront of our civil nuclear and research ambitions for the next 25 years. Please ask yourself, would Pakistan have become Asia's first CERN associate member if it never started a nuclear program? - Would our nuclear program exist if our political will had shattered? - In other words our CERN membership started the day we decided to develop nukes. See how such decisions lead to unlikely positive results?

For the Arab world, everything is possible only if they unite and work for their common goals. Having joint military projects has nothing to do with being Arab or not. We jointly develop all big ticket items with the Chinese, does that hinder anything? - Of Course it doesn't. The problem with the Arab world lies in its leadership and its lack of will to collectively work for their strategic goals rather than personal interest. Civilizations who have done that in the past, have mostly been sunk, while holding onto their self interest.

Brother you surely must mean lions lead by lambs. I think it as said by a German General. These Arabis are useless, bicker over useless shit. Look at hazzy and saudi members. Then look at syrian and hazzy.

They are beyond redemption.

 

[VelocuR]

The mentality problems from Arab side is always refuse to joint military industry with strong country like Pakistan and refuse everything.

You can't convince them, they tend to rely heavily weapons on Western or British from last 100 years, if Western or British industry no longer available, then Arabs league would joint with Israel or Zimbabwe.