Joint military industry project for Arab world?

[rockstar08]

Hell No- let the Arabs start from scratch or by some non muslim help- thats what they want so be it-

bro , he is considering the fact of ummah which we muslim are so proud of ....

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

its not about sharing , its about the lobby uncle sam has put in arab world and in Pakistan as well ... in pakistan case our army stood up and take hard stand in favor of Pak-china friendship , or else our leaders would have fcuked up that friendship long time ago ... arab world dont need N weapon for now , first they need to unite on same podium ... just look at KSA and turkey where they are standing they have better Armed forces than pak and got bunch of $$$$$$$ ...

Maybe you are right, since the nuclear scientists from both China and Pakistan are often working very closely to each other, hence the two countries also share the similar design of the nuclear warhead.

This is the top military secret, so better keep it for yourself when you couldn't even buy it from other people with money.

 

[rockstar08]

Maybe you are right, since the nuclear scientists from both China and Pakistan are often working very closely to each other, hence the two countries also share the similar design of the nuclear warhead.

This is the top military secret, so better keep it for yourself when you couldn't even buy from other people with money.

exactly .i am sure China also dont want pakistan to fall for ummah thing and share critical Nuclear tech to arabs , if uncle sam gets any clue they will get a reason to start a word war with china ... and Pakistan is always under their highest radar

 

[Desert Fox]

Alaka .. Tum ghoray kou paani tak la saktay ho.. But you can't force it to drink it..

No, you can't.

Pakistan is in fact ranked at number 6 in term of the miniaturization of the nuclear warhead, and do you think that you guys will share it with the Arab world?

I don't think we can trust any Muslim gov.t enough to be sharing such highly classified technology due to the risk of being sanctioned by the international community.

 

[rockstar08]

Nuclear capability isn't related to military industry programs. This isn't a quest for military might yet. Wish it was though.



Most Arabs aren't rich at all. Most are poor. I'm stating a fact regarding human nature. A small but feasible percentage of our Muslim world adheres to the lessons of our Prophet(SAW). If they did we would see unity.

This is about the Arab world, that it needs to start entering field of self-sufficiency in military related terms. This isn't a regional proposal. It's basically questioning why this doesn't exist yet.

Remember, I am just one person. If it was in my hands I would have bigger plans.



Read above post. No non- Arab nations are discussed in this. Some members started bringing up other wider ideas. Which would make a good thread.

My thread was specifically regarding the lack of military industry in the Arab world.

@Hazzy997 of course not all are alike , but i am talking about majority , i have been to UAE two times , and i have experience it by myself , when peoples told me that they so arrogant i never believe because i have this muslim muslim brother brother theory but since i visit UAE i understand that all you have is your faith and your country ..and Allah from the Above..
if you suggest me some nice friendly arabs from UAE , i would have meet them , man i still remember Arab food

 

[Falcon29]

@Hazzy997 of course not all are alike , but i am talking about majority , i have been to UAE two times , and i have experience it by myself , when peoples told me that they so arrogant i never believe because i have this muslim muslim brother brother theory but since i visit UAE i understand that all you have is your faith and your country ..and Allah from the Above..
if you suggest me some nice friendly arabs from UAE , i would have meet them , man i still remember Arab food

I haven't been there in so long. Maybe more than 8 years ago.

I miss the halal pepperoni Pizza Hut and Rice/Grilled Chicken trays. Those were great.

 

[JonAsad]

Nuclear capability isn't related to military industry programs. This isn't a quest for military might yet. Wish it was though.



Most Arabs aren't rich at all. Most are poor. I'm stating a fact regarding human nature. A small but feasible percentage of our Muslim world adheres to the lessons of our Prophet(SAW). If they did we would see unity.

This is about the Arab world, that it needs to start entering field of self-sufficiency in military related terms. This isn't a regional proposal. It's basically questioning why this doesn't exist yet.

Remember, I am just one person. If it was in my hands I would have bigger plans.



Read above post. No non- Arab nations are discussed in this. Some members started bringing up other wider ideas. Which would make a good thread.

My thread was specifically regarding the lack of military industry in the Arab world.

You should first focus on making ADF first to counter IDF-

And
I dont see the localised arab industry progressing since most arabs will prefer to buy western stuff anyways-

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Hell No- let the Arabs start from scratch or by some non muslim help- thats what they want so be it-

To start from scratch in the military industry means several decades of make up work.

Seriously, the Arab world needs to recognize the importance of Pakistan.

 

[rockstar08]

I haven't been there in so long. Maybe more than 8 years ago.

I miss the halal pepperoni Pizza Hut and Rice/Grilled Chicken trays. Those were great.

man arabs have variety of food so healthy
specially their traditional food

 

[JonAsad]

bro , he is considering the fact of ummah which we muslim are so proud of ....

Its a joke- the concept of ummah starts and ends with arabs- not even among themselves- see example of Gaza- we are considered extras though-

 

[rockstar08]

To start from scratch in the military industry means several decades of make up work.

Seriously, the Arab world needs to recognize the importance of Pakistan.

hard but necessary

Its a joke- the concept of ummah starts and ends with arabs- not even among themselves- see example of Gaza- we are considered extras though-

yaar our chinese brother is considering the teaching of our Prophets may be ... ummah concept has some importance in islam that none can deny but to make a ummah we first need to be strong individuals first

 

[Falcon29]

You should first focus on making ADF first to counter IDF-

And
I dont see the localised arab industry progressing since most arabs will prefer to buy western stuff anyways-

Countering IDF isn't the topic of this thread. Arabs discuss such strategic issues on their forums. Such as countering Israel's F-35 shipments coming soon. This is discussed on Arab forums. Arabs actually would prefer self-sufficiency while also importing equipment which ALL nations do. This isn't a problem as long as there's development.

I am not a leader of an Arab nation so I don't know what to tell you about preferences. However, Arab leaders should start by mixing their inventory and beginning local development. I know Morsi wanted to do this with Egypt but was never given a chance.

hard but necessary



yaar our chinese brother is considering the teaching of our Prophets may be ... ummah concept has some importance in islam that none can deny but to make a ummah we first need to be strong individuals first

Exactly. If there is corruption at an higher level. There is some corruption amongst the general population as well.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

hard but necessary



yaar our chinese brother is considering the teaching of our Prophets may be ... ummah concept has some importance in islam that none can deny but to make a ummah we first need to be strong individuals first

They simply cannot trust the US, and the US will make them dependent towards the US military technological ecosystem forever.

Without the US technological supplies, they cannot build anything on their own, that's how the US can keep controlling over these countries.

Japan is just a prime example, even the US lets them to amend the constitution, meanwhile they still realize that they are dependent to the US.

 

[Falcon29]

To start from scratch in the military industry means several decades of make up work.

Seriously, the Arab world needs to recognize the importance of Pakistan.

I don't get what Pakistan has to do with a thread addressing the urgent need of some initiatives for this field in the Arab world. The important thing is initiatives right now. This can be expanded upon after initiatives are proposed and agreed upon.

Pakistan/Arab cooperation has been going well according to most members here in the economic/military field. I am Palestinian, so not too familiar with those specifics.

 

[JonAsad]

Countering IDF isn't the topic of this thread. Arabs discuss such strategic issues on their forums. Such as countering Israel's F-35 shipments coming soon. This is discussed on Arab forums. Arabs actually would prefer self-sufficiency while also importing equipment which ALL nations do. This isn't a problem as long as there's development.

I am not a leader of an Arab nation so I don't know what to tell you about preferences. However, Arab leaders should start by mixing their inventory and beginning local development. I know Morsi wanted to do this with Egypt but was never given a chance.

Good luck with that-
The arabs as single entity could never work together- history tells us last time arabs together took a stand against the west their leaders were assasinated starting from Saudi Arabian King Faisal -