Joint Exercise ACES Meet 2017

[-BAJWA-]

The correct Urdu term is "Neech".

As Mian Muhammad Bakhash shb Said.

"Neechan di aashnayi tu faiz kisay nhe payaa"
"Kiker te angoor charhaya, hr guchaa zakhmaya"

 

[khanasifm]

Today, at 04:00 PM PST, I saw 2 F-15s along with 2 JFTs over Sargodha. A dogfight, JFT chasing F-15. After that F-15 came for landing. It is impressive bird. Very smooth and quiet landing, slow speed, less noise as compared to F-16, although it is twin engine jet.



(If anyone wants to ask about pics, should keep in mind that clicking any jet on landing line will land me in safe house with zero clue of myself to my family)

It is same engine except the nozzles and there are two

 

[khanasifm]

Interesting article in Combat aircraft magazine

EAGLES AND LANCERS
The 159th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron is back on the road, deploying its F-15C/Ds to Romania in June to take part in Exercise ‘Dacian Eagle’ as Jamie Hunter and Frank Crébas report

It states the use of jhmd pilot [emoji68]‍[emoji574]️ need to find and look in right direction to make it work and mig-21 size vs f-15 make it difficult for pilot to acquire small aircraft and use jhmd

Just glance at the highlights so there might be other details as well

 

[CHI RULES]

Sir can a fighter jet with less speed, service ceiling lesser range radar can challenge a high ceiling,more speed jet with superior ECM/Radar in real war scenario.

 

[Gomig-21]

Egyptians are the least trustworthy amongst all the arabs

Ah come on.

(not that saudis are great),

And yet they're here in their super F-15's taking one of the highest ranking Pakistan pilots for a friendship ride in one of those F-15s. The level of untrustworthiness! Ironic, isn't it?

not worthy of invitation to PAF Aces Meet.

I suppose any one is entitled to his or her opinion. Luckily for all of us, you are just like all the rest of us, nothing more than a forum member giving his opinion.

These amateurs

Amateurs don't usually have an 84 year history flying the 4th largest fleet of F-16s, Rafales (the 1st non-French AF to fly them) Mirage 2000 (also the first to fly them since 1982) and now the first to fly the MiG-35. That really screams of amateurism.

by stroke of luck have got possession of tarmac-toys (chinese term for F-15/16).

"Stroke of luck"

This is the height of their professionalism.

..............

I have heard PAF officers saying, 'we can shoot them blind-folded'.

You have heard?

I'm willing to bet that these same, exact PAF officers whom are professionals and have the same ethics as all other military aviators -- whom they exercise with in tactics that involve killing others before they kill you -- would hold the highest, military standards of respecting other military men and nations. In the military (and especially in the navy and air force), individuals are taught to hold other members of the same profession with the highest regard and respect, let alone their adversaries. The mere fact that your claim shows that these PAF officers would behave in the opposite manner to that, would only suggest 2 things:

1) That it's nothing further from the truth. A blatant lie.
2) That PAF officers are that arrogant and unprofessional. Of course that's not true.

This is not even getting into the unlikeliness that any PAF pilot or crew would utter such nonsense that could be overheard by "someone" who would later, be able to spew that nonsense publicly.

 

[Trango Towers]

You should see most of the pilots on and above the rank of Wing Commanders in PAF.....bellyfighters zindabad. Very few maintain themselves in good shape. And no....they don't run to the bakery....at least my old man was lucky to have been fit enough to make it to the Afghan-Pakistan border after getting shot down.

What was your old man flying?

Sir can a fighter jet with less speed, service ceiling lesser range radar can challenge a high ceiling,more speed jet with superior ECM/Radar in real war scenario.

If he is seriously manuverable and forces the other her to come down and he is flying close to earth and using terrain to his advantage then yes

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Dont the paf require their pilots to keep up an exercise regimen

One of the sons......walk, ride and then a helicopter flight back to PAF Kamra from the border.

 

[Raider 21]

What was your old man flying?


If he is seriously manuverable and forces the other her to come down and he is flying close to earth and using terrain to his advantage then yes

F-16A Block 15S

 

[Trango Towers]

F-16A Block 15S

Our f16A got shot down in Afghanistan? We had no loses

 

[blain2]

Ah come on.



And yet they're here in their super F-15's taking one of the highest ranking Pakistan pilots for a friendship ride in one of those F-15s. The level of untrustworthiness! Ironic, isn't it?



I suppose any one is entitled to his or her opinion. Luckily for all of us, you are just like all the rest of us, nothing more than a forum member giving his opinion.



Amateurs don't usually have an 84 year history flying the 4th largest fleet of F-16s, Rafales (the 1st non-French AF to fly them) Mirage 2000 (also the first to fly them since 1982) and now the first to fly the MiG-35. That really screams of amateurism.



"Stroke of luck"



..............



You have heard?

I'm willing to bet that these same, exact PAF officers whom are professionals and have the same ethics as all other military aviators -- whom they exercise with in tactics that involve killing others before they kill you -- would hold the highest, military standards of respecting other military men and nations. In the military (and especially in the navy and air force), individuals are taught to hold other members of the same profession with the highest regard and respect, let alone their adversaries. The mere fact that your claim shows that these PAF officers would behave in the opposite manner to that, would only suggest 2 things:

1) That it's nothing further from the truth. A blatant lie.
2) That PAF officers are that arrogant and unprofessional. Of course that's not true.

This is not even getting into the unlikeliness that any PAF pilot or crew would utter such nonsense that could be overheard by "someone" who would later, be able to spew that nonsense publicly.

General comment not intended for Gomig21 - Good aviators everywhere. Please don't denigrate on the basis of nationality.

 

[-BAJWA-]

It is same engine except the nozzles and there are two

That's my point. Despite having double engine, F-15 has less speed & noise at landing as compared to SINGLE engine F-16.

 

[Liquidmetal]

Ah come on.



And yet they're here in their super F-15's taking one of the highest ranking Pakistan pilots for a friendship ride in one of those F-15s. The level of untrustworthiness! Ironic, isn't it?



I suppose any one is entitled to his or her opinion. Luckily for all of us, you are just like all the rest of us, nothing more than a forum member giving his opinion.



Amateurs don't usually have an 84 year history flying the 4th largest fleet of F-16s, Rafales (the 1st non-French AF to fly them) Mirage 2000 (also the first to fly them since 1982) and now the first to fly the MiG-35. That really screams of amateurism.



"Stroke of luck"



..............



You have heard?

I'm willing to bet that these same, exact PAF officers whom are professionals and have the same ethics as all other military aviators -- whom they exercise with in tactics that involve killing others before they kill you -- would hold the highest, military standards of respecting other military men and nations. In the military (and especially in the navy and air force), individuals are taught to hold other members of the same profession with the highest regard and respect, let alone their adversaries. The mere fact that your claim shows that these PAF officers would behave in the opposite manner to that, would only suggest 2 things:

1) That it's nothing further from the truth. A blatant lie.
2) That PAF officers are that arrogant and unprofessional. Of course that's not true.

This is not even getting into the unlikeliness that any PAF pilot or crew would utter such nonsense that could be overheard by "someone" who would later, be able to spew that nonsense publicly.

As a fellow Muslim, a brother, I am extremely proud of the contribution Egypt had made to the world and Islam. From pyramids to the oldest Islamic university and much more. The Egyptian armed forces are well equipped and well trained, there is no doubt about it and should be coming to PK to show their true colours.

 

[blain2]

For Pakistan and Egypt, they need to move beyond the legacy of the Suez Canal invasion. That has left these two powerhouses from cooperating and building on the relations.

 

[messiach]

Frivolous comm.
Keep these to yourself.

And yet they're here in their super F-15's taking one of the highest ranking Pakistan pilots for a friendship ride in one of those F-15s. The level of untrustworthiness! Ironic, isn't it?

I suppose any one is entitled to his or her opinion.

Amateurs don't usually have an 84 year history flying the 4th largest fleet of F-16s, Rafales (the 1st non-French AF to fly them) Mirage 2000 (also the first to fly them since 1982) and now the first to fly the MiG-35. That really screams of amateurism.

"Stroke of luck"
..............

I'm willing to bet that these same, exact PAF officers whom are professionals and have the same ethics as all other military aviators -- whom they exercise with in tactics that involve killing others before they kill you -- would hold the highest, military standards of respecting other military men and nations. In the military (and especially in the navy and air force), individuals are taught to hold other members of the same profession with the highest regard and respect, let alone their adversaries. The mere fact that your claim shows that these PAF officers would behave in the opposite manner to that, would only suggest 2 things:

1) That it's nothing further from the truth. A blatant lie.
2) That PAF officers are that arrogant and unprofessional. Of course that's not true.

This is not even getting into the unlikeliness that any PAF pilot or crew would utter such nonsense that could be overheard by "someone" who would later, be able to spew that nonsense publicly.

 

[Raider 21]

Our f16A got shot down in Afghanistan? We had no loses

Yeah he ejected for fun....

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