Joint Chiefs Chairman Asks Pakistanis What They Need

[moha199]

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, arrived here on Monday to emphasize America’s eagerness to help Pakistan in its fight against foreign terrorists and homegrown militants operating in the country’s northwestern tribal areas.

Admiral Mullen said the United States was willing to offer assistance for things like training, transport helicopters and night-combat operations, but he stressed that he was bringing no specific proposals on this visit and that he would await formal requests from Pakistan’s military.

The trip by Admiral Mullen, America’s highest-ranking military officer, is his second here in less than a month, and it underscores Washington’s view of the vital role Pakistan plays in the global counterterrorism effort.

But it also highlights the delicate nature of the relationship between the countries, in which the United States cannot be seen as dictating combat missions on Pakistan’s sovereign territory. This is especially true as Pakistan struggles to form a new government after a humiliating election loss for the governing party of President Pervez Musharraf, a close Bush administration antiterrorism ally.

“This military-to-military relationship is really critical,” Admiral Mullen said. He summarized his message to Pakistan’s military leadership: “We are anxious to assist. Tell us where you need assistance.”

During his visit here, Admiral Mullen will meet with Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, who last year became Pakistan’s new army chief, a pillar of national power, when Mr. Musharraf gave up that post to serve solely as a civilian president. The admiral will also meet with Gen. Tariq Majid, chairman of the Pakistani Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee.

Speaking to reporters aboard his airplane as he flew into Pakistan after a two-day inspection tour of Iraq, Admiral Mullen was asked whether General Kayani was at risk of being seen as too close to the United States.

“One of the messages that I want to make sure that I am very consistent with is: We are there to assist where he wants us to assist,” Admiral Mullen said.

Admiral Mullen did not discuss any of the various proposals being drawn up by the American military to assist Pakistan.

But an American plan described by senior officials, and now under review by the United States military’s Central Command, would send about 100 troops to help train the Frontier Corps, a Pakistani paramilitary force that both nations describe as the vanguard in the fight against Al Qaeda and the Taliban in the restive tribal areas along the border with Afghanistan.

Other American officials say the eventual number of trainers would be much lower, no more than two dozen.

During his visit last month, Admiral Mullen met with the chief of the Frontier Corps.

As he arrived in Pakistan on Monday, the admiral said the United States had developed “a fairly comprehensive plan” of assistance to the Frontier Corps, a force of about 85,000 that is recruited from ethnic groups along the border and therefore knows the region’s dialects and culture.

“There are needs in helicopters,” Admiral Mullen said. “There are needs to operate at night.”

He emphasized that those needs were in training and maintenance skills, and he made no mention of American troops entering Pakistan to conduct combat missions, or even to join Pakistan forces on such operations.

The Pentagon has already spent about $25 million to outfit the Frontier Corps with equipment, including vehicles, radios and surveillance devices, and plans to spend another $75 million over the next year. Administration officials say the United States will spend more than $400 million over the next several years to help the Frontier Corps enhance its combat capabilities.

 

[moha199]

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, arrived here on Monday to emphasize America’s eagerness to help Pakistan in its fight against foreign terrorists and homegrown militants operating in the country’s northwestern tribal areas.

Admiral Mullen said the United States was willing to offer assistance for things like training, transport helicopters and night-combat operations, but he stressed that he was bringing no specific proposals on this visit and that he would await formal requests from Pakistan’s military.

The trip by Admiral Mullen, America’s highest-ranking military officer, is his second here in less than a month, and it underscores Washington’s view of the vital role Pakistan plays in the global counterterrorism effort.

But it also highlights the delicate nature of the relationship between the countries, in which the United States cannot be seen as dictating combat missions on Pakistan’s sovereign territory. This is especially true as Pakistan struggles to form a new government after a humiliating election loss for the governing party of President Pervez Musharraf, a close Bush administration antiterrorism ally.

“This military-to-military relationship is really critical,” Admiral Mullen said. He summarized his message to Pakistan’s military leadership: “We are anxious to assist. Tell us where you need assistance.”

During his visit here, Admiral Mullen will meet with Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, who last year became Pakistan’s new army chief, a pillar of national power, when Mr. Musharraf gave up that post to serve solely as a civilian president. The admiral will also meet with Gen. Tariq Majid, chairman of the Pakistani Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee.

Speaking to reporters aboard his airplane as he flew into Pakistan after a two-day inspection tour of Iraq, Admiral Mullen was asked whether General Kayani was at risk of being seen as too close to the United States.

“One of the messages that I want to make sure that I am very consistent with is: We are there to assist where he wants us to assist,” Admiral Mullen said.

Admiral Mullen did not discuss any of the various proposals being drawn up by the American military to assist Pakistan.

But an American plan described by senior officials, and now under review by the United States military’s Central Command, would send about 100 troops to help train the Frontier Corps, a Pakistani paramilitary force that both nations describe as the vanguard in the fight against Al Qaeda and the Taliban in the restive tribal areas along the border with Afghanistan.

Other American officials say the eventual number of trainers would be much lower, no more than two dozen.

During his visit last month, Admiral Mullen met with the chief of the Frontier Corps.

As he arrived in Pakistan on Monday, the admiral said the United States had developed “a fairly comprehensive plan” of assistance to the Frontier Corps, a force of about 85,000 that is recruited from ethnic groups along the border and therefore knows the region’s dialects and culture.

“There are needs in helicopters,” Admiral Mullen said. “There are needs to operate at night.”

He emphasized that those needs were in training and maintenance skills, and he made no mention of American troops entering Pakistan to conduct combat missions, or even to join Pakistan forces on such operations.

The Pentagon has already spent about $25 million to outfit the Frontier Corps with equipment, including vehicles, radios and surveillance devices, and plans to spend another $75 million over the next year. Administration officials say the United States will spend more than $400 million over the next several years to help the Frontier Corps enhance its combat capabilities.

What i get out of this news is that whenever Mullen has came to Pakistan we have seen stricks on terroriests. What it shows that when ever US is about to launch attacks on terroriests they share this information with pakistani military. second is that it also shows that USA is also listening to pakistani military or they are forced or they have no good options other then equiping Pakistani paramiltary forces with new tecnology and warfare and all this is not happening out of blue definatly someone is making this situation and i belive this is a work of GHQ & GOP either way its the same lol. what i belive that Pakistani think tank and GHQ is trying hard to make USA pay for their para-military force's advancment also gaining new tecnology from USA.

 

[Proud to be Pakistani]

And killing lots of their own in the process!

Ironical Thinkology!

 

[moha199]

And killing lots of their own in the process!

Ironical Thinkology!

But i would ask you that what have we gotton from being tough to the world. Only thing we got was the isolation from the World? Great nations have to sacrifice some in order to gain more. But Brother i belive Allah has plan for everything. Right now because of all this war on terror We learnt how to fight a non state war!!! we got new tecnology!! our people will reform once they will start getting and accept that this is our war!!! our Police will definatly will learn to be more responsible!!! People will not talorate negitive thinking about Pakistan in few years and will act like one HOPEFULLY!! Once All this what i mentioned we achive i would say ........... We needed this then

 

[solid snake]

And killing lots of their own in the process!

Ironical Thinkology!

We must eliminate all terrorists within our borders, whatever their nationality. If you let them live, they will strike someday and kill innocent Pakistani people.

The Naval college in Lahore was attacked today. If that terrorist was killed by our army, he would not have killed innocents in Lahore.

Why are you feeling remorse for the scum of the earth terrorists such as the man who blew up the Naval college? In all wars innocents suffer and I'm not saying innocent people have not died as a result of this war. But our targets are extremists who want to drag back Pakistan and destroy it.

They do not give a damn about our country. We must eradicate all extremists once and for all and though we may have hardships in the short-term, it will prove very benificial in the long-term. We must not give up the fight. We must take America's help in every way we can to win this war.

Terrorists need to be shown that no amount of suicide bombings will deter us from defeating and eliminating them. Enough is enough. Their violent acts and the innocent people they have already killed are enough reasons to after them.

Only 3000 Americans died and they went crazy around the world to take revenge on those who killed their citizens. Yet a lot more Pakistanis have died and even then ordinary Pakistanis refuse to support the war on terror? It truly baffles me.

 

[relent8]

We are on the right path in fighting these extremists and terrorists, but we also have to keep in mind where these people are coming from, and our nation has to realise the need for our government to be an ally of US in this situation.

But unfortunately very few people realise this and majority is brainwashed by the hands of agents like Aitzaz Ahsan, NS, who have stabbed the thinking of a common person in Pakistan by applying an extreme ideology themselves which is not in the interests of Pakistan.
I feel sorry for those people who believe in Aitzaz, his puppet lawyers and NS.

Its the foriegn hand which is not letting Pakistan progress, but in order to progress we have to fight extremism as a nation and not as a one person army, which is not happening.

 

[batmannow]

I , think ADMIRL . MULLEN hasnt ask any question like that , and he cant do even he wanted too, he is in no position to do so.
its all up to CAPITALHILL to decide and deliver, although his vist can be seen as important one ,which can boost more ATTACKS OF PREDATORS flying in GREEN SKYIES these days.
this wouldbe another technical move, to get more support for USAs strikes inside pakistan and sharinng information.

also, make pakistanis agreed onthe aspects of training and to get more troops on ground.

 

[Interceptor]

We must eliminate all terrorists within our borders, whatever their nationality. If you let them live, they will strike someday and kill innocent Pakistani people.

The Naval college in Lahore was attacked today. If that terrorist was killed by our army, he would not have killed innocents in Lahore.

Why are you feeling remorse for the scum of the earth terrorists such as the man who blew up the Naval college? In all wars innocents suffer and I'm not saying innocent people have not died as a result of this war. But our targets are extremists who want to drag back Pakistan and destroy it.

They do not give a damn about our country. We must eradicate all extremists once and for all and though we may have hardships in the short-term, it will prove very benificial in the long-term. We must not give up the fight. We must take America's help in every way we can to win this war.

Terrorists need to be shown that no amount of suicide bombings will deter us from defeating and eliminating them. Enough is enough. Their violent acts and the innocent people they have already killed are enough reasons to after them.

Only 3000 Americans died and they went crazy around the world to take revenge on those who killed their citizens. Yet a lot more Pakistanis have died and even then ordinary Pakistanis refuse to support the war on terror? It truly baffles me.

There target is Pakistan army and it due to Muharraf pro-US agenda he is an agent under disguise, this terrorism catlyst started off when Musharraf murdered Bugti who we should have been negotiating to now and resolving the dispute but nooo Musharraf had to go murder important tribal leaders and let the hate get simered with a smuge of US aid money going in his bank.

 

[moha199]

There target is Pakistan army and it due to Muharraf pro-US agenda he is an agent under disguise, this terrorism catlyst started off when Musharraf murdered Bugti who we should have been negotiating to now and resolving the dispute but nooo Musharraf had to go murder important tribal leaders and let the hate get simered with a smuge of US aid money going in his bank.

Bro i will totally disagree with you on this. You tell me what have Pakistan done if there was anyother leader beside Musharraff!!!!! You are talking out of blue. I would say stop blaiming people for situations this is a sigh of weak personalities and i would assume you are not one of them. Bro what choice did we have after 911. if you for got let me put words back by bush " EITHER YOU ARE WITH US OR TERRORIESTS " They asked us for AQ KHAN, PAKISTANI LAND FOR OPERATIONS, COMPROMISE ON CHINA, ( MEANING ON GUWADAR!! STUDY FIRST THEM COME ON THIS TOPIC PLZ, THEY ASKED US TO ACCESS INTO OUR NUKS, but what our GOV gave them, land for transportation and air space, thats it!!!! we saved AQ KHAN, WE SAVED OUR NUKES, WE SAVED OUR RELATION WITH CHINA. i don't understand what else Pakistan GOV could have done beside this? We gave them land for transportation for their fule military arms in total we just gave them logestic support thats it. But question might apper in mind that why did we even do that. Let me tell you this 1st we became 2nd biggest US AID accepter, we we free from sanctions, we could do alot of business and bring alot of bussiness now with the world, we started building our arms like tanks and import them aswell fighter jets, artillery, we started using all this time and money for our future. We gave logistic support so we can black mail US anytime if she turn her back on us you want proof ill give you proof WHEN PRESIDENT MUSHRRAFF TOLD USA THAT THEY CAN FIND ANOTHER ALLY ON THIS WAR IF OUR AID WAS CUT. meaning if we want we can cut the logistic support which means no gas supplies and arms supplies through Pakistan do you know what it means it means USA will run out of supplies within 5-7 days. What do we get out of this whole thing US SUDDENLY CHANGES HER TONE. Pakistan made the best policy WE DROPED TALIBANS WE ABONDON ALL THE CORRUPT POLITICAL PARTIES LIKE BB NS. Yes we did the best by killing that scum of the earth BUGTI the best job ever done by PAKISTAN . Showing that this is not a country which will listen to tugs like him. Personally if you ask me i would say we should off done this along time ago. A guy who has his own judical system prisons law in wasirestan. There shouldn't be any law less area in pakistan period. This is not a la la land this is pakistan for the better future of Pakistan we should kill all these terroriest once for all and impliment the RIT of GOP on every inch of PAKISTAN. Learn something from the great nations bro. WHAT WILL WE ANSWER OUR NEXT GENERATION ABOUT THESE TERRORIEST LIKE GUGTI MASOOD FM MULLAH TALIBAN ETC. THAT WE WERE SCARED!!!! WE HAD NO GUTS!!! WE WERE NOT READY FOR SACRIFICE SOME PEOPLE FOR THE GOOD OF 164 MILLION AND MORE TO COME. I don't know about you brother but i am ready for this. I am ready to sacrifice a little and see hardship for the scure future of my childern. So please don't take it personal please but realize this. We picked the right battle and we should finish it and as long our PRESIDENT IS IN OFFICE AND WE HAVE ISI WE WILL SCURE THE FUTURE OF OUR KIDS. I am in the support of this war and MUSHARRAF because we dare to stand aginst these people when no body els is ready for this. GOD BLESS PAKISTAN

 

[batmannow]

woo, MOHA , but plz bring some light on the issue , of NRO and plz accept that MUSHARAF HAS ALSO DONE alot of wrong dececions.

 

[Interceptor]

Bro i will totally disagree with you on this. You tell me what have Pakistan done if there was anyother leader beside Musharraff!!!!! You are talking out of blue. I would say stop blaiming people for situations this is a sigh of weak personalities and i would assume you are not one of them. Bro what choice did we have after 911. if you for got let me put words back by bush " EITHER YOU ARE WITH US OR TERRORIESTS " They asked us for AQ KHAN, PAKISTANI LAND FOR OPERATIONS, COMPROMISE ON CHINA, ( MEANING ON GUWADAR!! STUDY FIRST THEM COME ON THIS TOPIC PLZ, THEY ASKED US TO ACCESS INTO OUR NUKS, but what our GOV gave them, land for transportation and air space, thats it!!!! we saved AQ KHAN, WE SAVED OUR NUKES, WE SAVED OUR RELATION WITH CHINA. i don't understand what else Pakistan GOV could have done beside this? We gave them land for transportation for their fule military arms in total we just gave them logestic support thats it. But question might apper in mind that why did we even do that. Let me tell you this 1st we became 2nd biggest US AID accepter, we we free from sanctions, we could do alot of business and bring alot of bussiness now with the world, we started building our arms like tanks and import them aswell fighter jets, artillery, we started using all this time and money for our future. We gave logistic support so we can black mail US anytime if she turn her back on us you want proof ill give you proof WHEN PRESIDENT MUSHRRAFF TOLD USA THAT THEY CAN FIND ANOTHER ALLY ON THIS WAR IF OUR AID WAS CUT. meaning if we want we can cut the logistic support which means no gas supplies and arms supplies through Pakistan do you know what it means it means USA will run out of supplies within 5-7 days. What do we get out of this whole thing US SUDDENLY CHANGES HER TONE. Pakistan made the best policy WE DROPED TALIBANS WE ABONDON ALL THE CORRUPT POLITICAL PARTIES LIKE BB NS. Yes we did the best by killing that scum of the earth BUGTI the best job ever done by PAKISTAN . Showing that this is not a country which will listen to tugs like him. Personally if you ask me i would say we should off done this along time ago. A guy who has his own judical system prisons law in wasirestan. There shouldn't be any law less area in pakistan period. This is not a la la land this is pakistan for the better future of Pakistan we should kill all these terroriest once for all and impliment the RIT of GOP on every inch of PAKISTAN. Learn something from the great nations bro. WHAT WILL WE ANSWER OUR NEXT GENERATION ABOUT THESE TERRORIEST LIKE GUGTI MASOOD FM MULLAH TALIBAN ETC. THAT WE WERE SCARED!!!! WE HAD NO GUTS!!! WE WERE NOT READY FOR SACRIFICE SOME PEOPLE FOR THE GOOD OF 164 MILLION AND MORE TO COME. I don't know about you brother but i am ready for this. I am ready to sacrifice a little and see hardship for the scure future of my childern. So please don't take it personal please but realize this. We picked the right battle and we should finish it and as long our PRESIDENT IS IN OFFICE AND WE HAVE ISI WE WILL SCURE THE FUTURE OF OUR KIDS. I am in the support of this war and MUSHARRAF because we dare to stand aginst these people when no body els is ready for this. GOD BLESS PAKISTAN

FM Mullenah got lience from Pakistan government you cant launch a channel illegaly the Musharraf scenario has killed thousands of Pakistanis and only created new and endless problems to the country such as electricty sky high food prices and unemployment, He is not the President but merly the loonatic who want to keep hold of Power at any cost, calling Politcal leaders corrupt is wrong as they brought most to the people compared to dictator who has philferd and raped this country, Musharraf whould never speak against the americans he is an agent for them and you are misinformed.

 

[mujahideen]

FM Mullenah got lience from Pakistan government you cant launch a channel illegaly the Musharraf scenario has killed thousands of Pakistanis and only created new and endless problems to the country such as electricty sky high food prices and unemployment, He is not the President but merly the loonatic who want to keep hold of Power at any cost, calling Politcal leaders corrupt is wrong as they brought most to the people compared to dictator who has philferd and raped this country, Musharraf whould never speak against the americans he is an agent for them and you are misinformed.

With all due resect I disagree with you. You have a picture of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto as your avatar and by that I get the feeling you admire the Bhutto family. That is fine with me but maybe you forget the real American agent in our politics was Benazir. She was going to let the Americans on our soil and hand over Dr. Qadeer. If Musharraf was the agent these things would of happened a long time ago.

 

[Interceptor]

With all due resect I disagree with you. You have a picture of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto as your avatar and by that I get the feeling you admire the Bhutto family. That is fine with me but maybe you forget the real American agent in our politics was Benazir. She was going to let the Americans on our soil and hand over Dr. Qadeer. If Musharraf was the agent these things would of happened a long time ago.

American agent you must be ill informed, Dr. AQ is good friend of the Bhutto family after all Zulfikar Ali Bhutto interviewed him personally and gave him the job, She never said she would hand him over to the west she said she would clear the suspicions of the west by allowing Dr.AQ to by questioned be IAEA under Pakistani supervision.

The Americans have already landed on Pakistani soil they frequently launch missiles against Pakistan and kill Pakistanis, Musharraf is an agent these things have happened Dr. AQ family protested for his release and they to now locked up illegally what great dictator. Musharraf the Triator forced Dr. AQ to go on TV (PTV) and declare that he has links to underground nuclear deals who is the agent you ask.

 

[blain2]

Musharraf the Triator forced Dr. AQ to go on TV (PTV) and declare that he has links to underground nuclear deals who is the agent you ask.

It amazes me that people go on and on about the AQ Khan episode. Have you all ever thought that maybe what was done had the agreement of AQ Khan for the sake of Pakistan? What if Musharraf had not placed him under house arrest (essentially securing him) and in a covert manner he had been compromised? What would have become of the Pakistani state secrets and the compulsions under which the covert nuclear program was conducted?

So what is all this talk of the US agent? How is Musharraf or anyone else a US agent? Was he planted? Was he sent by the Americans to rule over Pakistan? Lets get off this insanely stupid conspiracy theory and American agent plot for a change please.

Musharraf did what he thought was the right thing to do. Along came 9/11 and he was able to converge Pakistani interests with those of the US. Mistakes were made (as they always are everywhere in the world of geo-politics). NS and Bhutto in their own times made plenty of mistakes.

 

[batmannow]

SORRY , guys recent comeback by ppp into pakistani politics was posible after USAs direct interference in pakistani affairs.
any one have any reservations can read the book wrote by LATE BENAZIR BHUTTO.
she was in constant contacts with ms, CONDALIZA RICE and with HILLARY CLINTON and ! she was been given , i guss some tasks by americans, in the end she became the target by cia because of her ever changing atitude?

A , SAME fate which her late, father had faced by the hands of CIA? AS for musharaf he become a victm because of his PERSONALTY, which is to strong for a superpower, who wanted a lose and a croupt leadership of pakistan for thier suspected intersts in the region.