JF17 Block III views and news

[rockstar08]

Pehle block 2 tu market mai ane do mian ...

 

[Wolfhound]

Salam,

While i would partially agree with you on that, but since this was designed as a low cost platoform originally to replace a-5, f-7 and mirages, i wouldnt really place my bet on significant upgrades and this will require radical changes to the structural integrity of craft(something that wasnt envisioned during the designing process of the craft). At most you can expect few decent upgrades like Avionics Package, inflight refulling and BVR. No Stealth or TVC

This craft is meant to supplement f-16 and work with AWACS to act as force multiplier, i doubt it can work alone as sole platform.
Although i m not doubting the fact its a hell lot better than what we could have imagined given the situation of our country and state of technology.

Peace

The thing is this aircraft is designed for long term usage like the f16,f18,etc so these upgrades are necessary but can also be done in future blocks.These aircraft are are meant to cheaper than other aircraft offering the same capabilities

 

[salarsikander]

The thing is this aircraft is designed for long term usage like the f16,f18,etc so these upgrades are necessary but can also be done in future blocks.These aircraft are are meant to cheaper than other aircraft offering the same capabilities

Salam,

Do you think you compare this craft with f-16A/b Model ??? or with mKI ??

This is MR low cost platform, you can upgrade it only so much! You cant bring Structural changes unless you decide to scrap the program and move beyond

 

[Wolfhound]

Salam,

Do you think you compare this craft with f-16A/b Model ??? or with mKI ??

This is MR low cost platform, you can upgrade it only so much! You cant bring Structural changes unless you decide to scrap the program and move beyond

WS,mki is an air superiority fighter while f16 a/b model is a multirole,jf 17 is also a multirole fighter thats why i would compare it to another multirole like the f16, major structural wont be needed,only the wing area may be increased to increase hardpoints and angle of attack and you may also see conformal fuel tanks and enclosed weapons pods and twin tails

 

[Donatello]

Gentlemen, there is not JF-17 BLK III in existance, only on paper and in the minds.

Let's not get carried away unnecessarily.

 

[MastanKhan]

The thing is this aircraft is designed for long term usage like the f16,f18,etc so these upgrades are necessary but can also be done in future blocks.These aircraft are are meant to cheaper than other aircraft offering the same capabilities

Hi,

Welcome to the board---how did we all miss that----maybe---I guess when living in this new iPhone every 6 months world---we start to think to defence weapons systems as such---like new cell hones popping---we lose focus on how much time energy and resource does it take to develop a weapons system.

And you are right---these aircraft are cheaper than other aircraft----we have put an extremely potent BVR missile on it and other weapons systems as well. It gives us a massive bang for the buck.

 

[salarsikander]

WS,mki is an air superiority fighter while f16 a/b model is a multirole,jf 17 is also a multirole fighter thats why i would compare it to another multirole like the f16, major structural wont be needed,only the wing area may be increased to increase hardpoints and angle of attack and you may also see conformal fuel tanks and enclosed weapons pods and twin tails

Salam,

As much as i owuld love to see that coming true and i m hopeful. But honest truth is it wont
Reason,

• Lack of funds
• State of technology(industrial capacity)
• Simply having TOT doesnt mean you can produce it( youhave to have heavy industrial capacity)
• vison of program( THIS IS LOW COST PLATFORM meant to supplement f-16)
• Stealth? will negate the need for having different platform j-31
• so far blk2 only has limited list of upgrades, kam chalao re fulleing probe and limted upgarde in Avioncis

Having said that, the true potential of this craft can be realized once we can get it synced with two different awacs,
which wont be easy, especially with the western(saab) one.
They wont just simply give you the source code.

 

[Wolfhound]

Hi,

Welcome to the board---how did we all miss that----maybe---I guess when living in this new iPhone every 6 months world---we start to think to defence weapons systems as such---like new cell hones popping---we lose focus on how much time energy and resource does it take to develop a weapons system.

And you are right---these aircraft are cheaper than other aircraft----we have put an extremely potent BVR missile on it and other weapons systems as well. It gives us a massive bang for the buck.

read this dude,hopefully you'll understand

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please read the second question in fourth column.
Air Cdr. Khalid: we intend to go to a new block after every fifty air frames

WS,the jf17 is not just meant to supplement f16s it is our frontline fighter that will replace alot of cra* and will be able to counter every fighter that india or any other country throws at us.You are right to an extent but thats why i said these upgrades would be in future blocks when pakistans economy becomes a little more stable.Which is bound to happen after the completion of operation zrab-e-azb and when the energy grid is boosted in 2018

Salam,
As much as i owuld love to see that coming true and i m hopeful. But honest truth is it wont
Reason,

• Lack of funds
• State of technology(industrial capacity)
• Simply having TOT doesnt mean you can produce it( youhave to have heavy industrial capacity)
• vison of program( THIS IS LOW COST PLATFORM meant to supplement f-16)
• Stealth? will negate the need for having different platform j-31
• so far blk2 only has limited list of upgrades, kam chalao re fulleing probe and limted upgarde in Avioncis

Having said that, the true potential of this craft can be realized once we can get it synced with two different awacs,
which wont be easy, especially with the western(saab) one.
They wont just simply give you the source code.

 

[HAIDER]

It quoted the PAF officials as describing the JF-17 Block 3 as a fourth-generation-plus fighter, a term that is used to describe Western aircraft such as Lockheed Martin F-16 Block 60s, the Saab Gripen, Euro fighter Typhoon, and Dassault Rafale, among others.

Nigeria buying JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft from Pakistan

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

What about them Block 4 JF17 thunders , now that is what I am talking about

 

[LonE_WolF]

What about them Block 4 JF17 thunders , now that is what I am talking about

block 2 is not out yet, block 3 is still on papers and you are talking about block 4?

 

[khanasifm]

China could export a modern fighter jet to developing countries to take a bigger share of the international military aircraft market and boost its aviation industry, experts have suggested.

　　"The FC-1 Fierce Dragon can meet the air defense tasks of most developing nations that can't afford more advanced, fifth-generation fighter jets," said Wang Ya'nan, deputy editor-in-chief of Aerospace Knowledge magazine.

　　"A lot of developing nations' air forces have neither menace from stealth aircraft nor requirements to launch long-distance airstrikes. For them, the FC-1 is a very sensible choice because it is reasonably priced and has a relatively strong capability," he told China Daily.

　　The FC-1 Fierce Dragon is a fourth-generation, lightweight multirole fighter jet developed by Aviation Industry Corp of China with assistance from Pakistan Aeronautical Complex, the leading aviation company in Pakistan. The aircraft is called the JF-17 Thunder in Pakistan.

　　Wang said the aircraft has huge potential to be improved and upgraded, as China has gained rich expertise and experience in the fields of composite materials, engines and avionics that can be adopted on the FC-1.

　　"Using cutting-edge composite materials to upgrade the aircraft will reduce the fuselage's weight, enabling designers to adopt a stealth airframe," Wang said. "In addition, AVIC can replace the plane's Russian-made RD-93 turbofan with China's latest engine."

　　Extensive upgrading has been effective in reattracting potential buyers. It also allows a manufacturer to diversify its product portfolio and present multiple variants of a plane to the market, according to Wang.

　　"China should also consider leasing the FC-1 to nations that are unable to afford the full price or are not familiar with Chinese weapons," he said.

　　Du Wenlong, a senior researcher at the People's Liberation Army's Academy of Military Science, said the FC-1 boasts a high price-performance ratio and can be ranked among the top lightweight fighter jets of its kind.

　　He said that in addition to aerial combat, it can perform airstrikes on ships or ground targets at a low operational cost, suggesting "it is the best choice for small and medium-sized countries."

　　The experts' comments come amid speculation in Western media that the aircraft will soon have new buyers.

　　According to Air Commodore Khalid Mahmood from the Pakistan Air Force, who heads sales and marketing for the fighter jet, the joint sales team from China and Pakistan is "in advanced negotiations with a Middle Eastern country (over sales of the FC-1), but the political situation there has delayed the deal".

　　Mahmood was speaking to Bloomberg last month in Zhuhai, Guangdong province, at the 10th China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition.

　　According to a Burma Times report in June, Myanmar is looking to obtain a license to produce the FC-1 domestically.

　　Last year, managers of Argentine aerospace company Fabrica Argentina de Aviones told reporters at the 50th International Paris Air Show that they had had multiple discussions with Chinese officials over potential coproduction of the FC-1 combat aircraft.

　　Fabrica Argentina de Aviones is the South American country's main aircraft manufacturer.

　　According to Defense Industry Daily, an online trade publication, Argentina is interested in the plane because it can carry C-802 subsonic and CM-400AKG supersonic anti-ship missiles,

　　A report in World Tribune, an online newspaper based in the United States, said Saudi Arabian officials have begun to review the FC-1 project and are considering becoming a partner in it.

　　Other prospective operators are reported to include Algeria, Malaysia, Nigeria and Sudan.

　　While courting potential clients, AVIC has also started to develop the two-seat version of the FC-1 and plans to introduce it to the international market in three to four years, according to Ma Zhi-ping, general manager of China National Aero-Technology Import and Export Corp.

　　"Many potential buyers have told us they hope we can produce a two-seater variant of the FC-1, and we are in the middle of purchasing negotiations with several countries," Ma said.

　　Yang Wei, chief designer of the FC-1 at AVIC, told China Daily earlier his team will gradually upgrade the aircraft to give it partial stealth capability and aerial refueling equipment.

　　However, Wang from Aerospace Knowledge said that having advanced capability is far from sufficient to secure a contract.

　　"The export of military aircraft, especially fighter jets, is often influenced by a host of geopolitical factors," he explained.

China Military Online English Edition

 

[Kurlang]

 

[syedali73]

Yaar,please refrain from posting such comedies. Pakistani media sucks when it comes to reporting on defense-related matters.

 

[Kurlang]

Yaar,please refrain from posting such comedies. Pakistani media sucks when it comes to reporting on defense-related matters.

You are right, it was indeed funny. The journalist surely goofed up. However, the point was that something is indeed cooking regarding the Block III.