JF-17B Updates, News & Discussion

[DrWatson775]

Thus thing has large Wings.
Similar to the locally made Range extension kit or REK.

This probably was or something similar to the Raptor III

 

[Scorpiooo]

That to me hold a much bigger meaning. Now this might just be me but it seems the Block 6 designation for twin seater indicate that there potentially will be 5 blocks of single seat JF-17s. If you recall, the initial project plan was for 250 JF-17s. Then it was made into 150+100 JF-17, guaranteeing first three blocks and an option of two more. Over the years many have gradually forgotten about those Block 4 and 5 option. Looking at Block 6 for dual seat, i am sure that PAF is not one of them who have forgotten that!

Plus, with around the corner it makes sense if we do get a 100 more planes in Block 4 and Block 5. Preferable with gradual upgrades where possible, based on lessons learned from Project Azm and J-31!

If wishes were horses, i would LOVE to see JF-17 Blk 4 and Blk 5 to 12-15% bigger with more composites, more payload and range, integrated IRST and gradual upgrades in terms of radar and avionocs, esp EW equipment! Now i agree that this probably isnt what JF-17 was envisioned to be but as years passed and tech became available and the rush to add in numbers have decreased, why not spend a couple of extra years and build a proper 4.5 gen fighter. That will be an ideal plane to compliment F-16 Blk 52. With Blk I planes upgraded to Blk II standard we will sentimentally have Blk-II, Blk III and Blk IV+V. Plus additional dual seat!


@Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Dazzler @airomerix @araz @Deino what do you guys make of this Blk 6 designation?

Yes PAF have plan to have max 50 plan in one block order then move to next, so possibility of block 4 , 5 is quite there, may ne now major changes in airframe, but avionics and weapons improvements in on board
We should not forget, PAF have plan to add better engine in future, then RD93 and its chines copy WS13, so we might see European engine too in later block to attract customers interested in European engine and radars offcouse weapons

 

[Metal 0-1]

@Windjammer Sir can you shed light on WSO controls of JFT Bravo?

Do WSO have the HOTAS??

 

[Arsalan]

Looks like in Pakistan. Also serial number indicate 3rd plane.
Have we started inducting these? I have missed so much on the JF-17B program

 

[air marshal]

https://falcons.pk/photo/JF-17B-Thunder/2723

 

[Arsalan]

https://falcons.pk/photo/JF-17B-Thunder/2723

Here you go, the fourth one is flying too. Mashallah.

 

[Tipu7]

Here you go, the fourth one is flying too. Mashallah.

The last F7P squadron is planned to be upgraded to Jf17 within this year.

 

[Arsalan]

The last F7P squadron is planned to be upgraded to Jf17 within this year.

To be replaced by Bravo?
That mean we need to have 16-18 planes by end of the year.

 

[volatile]

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Looks like in Pakistan. Also serial number indicate 3rd plane.
Have we started inducting these? I have missed so much on the JF-17B program

If raised only little bit from ground

 

[Metal 0-1]

@Arsalan Sir can you shed light on WSO controls of JFT Bravo?

Do WSO have the HOTAS??

 

[Mr.Cringeworth]

@Windjammer Sir can you shed light on WSO controls of JFT Bravo?

Do WSO have the HOTAS??

Considering that jf-17 is made to be as economical as possible I'm guessing not, and a weapon system operator doesn't need full control of the aircraft its very untypical even for modern dual seaters to have hotas in the back.

 

[Metal 0-1]

Considering that jf-17 is made to be as economical as possible I'm guessing not, and a weapon system operator doesn't need full control of the aircraft its very untypical even for modern dual seaters to have hotas in the back.

I get it....

Its not that untypical, F-16, F-15, Mig-29 have them

 

[nomi007]

 

[MastanKhan]

Considering that jf-17 is made to be as economical as possible I'm guessing not, and a weapon system operator doesn't need full control of the aircraft its very untypical even for modern dual seaters to have hotas in the back.

Hi,

It is a misnomer that the Jf17 is made as economical as possible---. That is farthest from the truth---.

The reason it is less expensive is due to the cost factor of the labor involved---. It is primarily not a " for profit " aircraft---but for personal usage---.

It is just like a car mechanic claiming that it cost him nothing to re-build the engine in his personal car---.

 

[nomi007]