JF-17B Updates, News & Discussion

[Muhammad Omar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1211170306393616384

Integration of Turkish SOM on JF-17 is dream come true

 

[Haris Ali2140]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1217134521042243586

 

[Windjammer]

Alan Warnes

@warnesyworld

Replying to *******
There is s total requirement for 26 JF-17Bs in the PAF.
5:55 pm · 14 Jan 2020·

I highly doubt that PAF will need some Two squadrons of Dual seat Thunder Bravos just for training.

 

[khanasifm]

Alan Warnes

@warnesyworld

Replying to *******
There is s total requirement for 26 JF-17Bs in the PAF.
5:55 pm · 14 Jan 2020·

I highly doubt that PAF will need some Two squadrons of Dual seat Thunder Bravos just for training.

Each sqn will also get 1 or 2 dual seaters and ocu may get 4-6

Expecting two ocu going foreword as the number of sqn goes up and No 26 along with another jf sqn Becomes am ocu perhaps at same base ???

 

[Deino]

There is s total requirement for 26 JF-17Bs in the PAF.
5:55 pm · 14 Jan 2020·

I highly doubt that PAF will need some Two squadrons of Dual seat Thunder Bravos just for training.

I agree with @khanasifm. It is IMO very much unlikely that any dedicated twin-seater Sqn will be formed. I expect - similar to the common procedure (see F-16A + a few F-16B or the ratio of single seater to trainers in PLAAF brigades) that each regular Sqn will receive a few and the dedicated OCU some more.

 

[StormBreaker]

I agree with @khanasifm. It is IMO very much unlikely that any dedicated twin-seater Sqn will be formed. I expect - similar to the common procedure (see F-16A + a few F-16B or the ratio of single seater to trainers in PLAAF brigades) that each regular Sqn will receive a few and the dedicated OCU some more.

It’s plain stupid to even think of a dedicated twin seater squadron when most of our fleet is single seater unlike India having MKIs in huge

 

[princefaisal]

One thing that bothers me is why are changes in Block 3 not incorporated into the Bs as well since they are being built more or less the same time frame. Perhaps there are technical bits that I am missing here. One step which could have been done was the shifting of the IR MAWS as in Block 3.
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Valid point. Next in-line 08 JF-17Bs should have AESA radar, wide-angle holographic HUD, upgraded EW suite & S740 MAWS & HMDS.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Valid point. Next in-line 08 JF-17Bs should have AESA radar, wide-angle holographic HUD, upgraded EW suite & S740 MAWS & HMDS.

No they wont. JF17Bs are ALL Block IIs...

 

[Ultima Thule]

It’s plain stupid to even think of a dedicated twin seater squadron when most of our fleet is single seater unlike India having MKIs in huge

What is the benefits of dual seater,its only useful on CAS/strike missions somehow

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Alan Warnes

@warnesyworld

Replying to *******
There is s total requirement for 26 JF-17Bs in the PAF.
5:55 pm · 14 Jan 2020·

I highly doubt that PAF will need some Two squadrons of Dual seat Thunder Bravos just for training.

Modern multirole fighters with 2 seats have more roles then just for training. JFB is also going to be used for SEAD and EW role and additional pilot will be a great benefit.
One of the reason why PAF prefers single seat is because of cost reduction as additional pilot in cockpit will cost more.

 

[denel]

No they wont. JF17Bs are ALL Block IIs...

That makes no sense. There needs to be a standard and Blk 3 is it going forward. May be others can suggest input.

 

[ziaulislam]

GIDS REK aka Takbir has been around for years now and its usage with JF-17s is public knowledge.

The footage of the March 2019 test was blurred by PAF but the blast and crater resembled that of a Raptor-III like weapon with penetration warhead. And the 'extended range smart weapon' appeared to have wings, tail and an engine.

Blurring indicates its not a simple SOW..has to be a extended missles with propulsion ..

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

That makes no sense. There needs to be a standard and Blk 3 is it going forward. May be others can suggest input.

Over the next five years, let's first get the 50 ordered Block-3s. After that PAC can concentrate on upgrading all Block-1s and Block-2s to the Block-3 standard where possible.

 

[khanasifm]

Current requirement/order confirmed is 188 including B model but it is projected to got Upto 250-300 which means B model number will also go beyond current number. If replacing one for one than there are ~ 20 fighter sqn with average 20 aircraft so 400 total fighters , this also includes number 1 fcu plus 4 f-16 sqn counting smaller ccs flight /sqn not as a separate sqn

That leaves about 15 sqn of 20 aircraft or 15x 20 ~300 aircraft or jf-17

time will tell as another decade may be more needed to replace remaining 100-150

 

[Windjammer]