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They look nothing like each other
The beauty JF-17 Thunder has made it's own mark in history.
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They look nothing like each other
The beauty JF-17 Thunder has made it's own mark in history.
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IAF Tejas vs Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder: The Battle to Manufacture the Best Home-Made Fighter Jet
Here’s how the Indian Air Force’s Tejas LCA and Pakistan Air Force’s JF-17 Thunder stack against each other.
UPDATED ON: JANUARY 27, 2020, 9:48 AM IST
Arjit Garg , News18.com
In the early hours of February 26, 2019, twelve Indian Air Force Mirage-2000 fighter jets made by Dassault Aviation, the same French company who also manufactures the Rafale Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircrafts, entered the Pakistani airspace and dropped 1,000-kg laser-guided bombs on Jaish-e-Mohammed terror launch pads across the Line of Control.
The very next day, in a retaliatory move, Pakistan Air Force deployed its US sourced F-16 Falcon and Pakistan-China co-developed JF-17 Thunder fighter jets. The JF-17 Thunder has been a source of pride for the PAF who consider them a home-made fighter jet, even though its co-developed with China. Pakistan recently updated its JF-17 Thunder to add more firepower to the jet that competes against the Indian Air Force’s HAL-Tejas LCA.
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Here’s how the Indian Air Force’s Tejas LCA and Pakistan Air Force’s JF-17 Thunder stack against each other:
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History
Tejas LCA: India has long bought its fighter jets from countries like Russia, France and Britain under a license agreement to manufacture it locally by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. However, back in the 1980s, HAL started the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme to replace the ageing Soviet sourced MiG-21. With India’s former Prime Minister giving the LCA its name – Tejas – the indigenously built fighter aircraft was inducted in the Indian Air Force with the IAF placing a 20 jet order initially and the first Tejas Squadron was formed in 2016 called the Flying Daggers. Till now IAF has placed an order of 40 Tejas Mk 1, including 32 single-seat aircraft and eight twin-seat trainers. IAF has also initiated procurement of a further 83 single-seat fighters in Mk 1A configuration.
JF-17 Thunder: Pakistan has long been dependent on China, United States and Russia for their air firepower. In 1995, Pakistan and China signed a MoU for joint design and development of a new fighter. The same year. USSR’s Mikoyan (known for MIG series of planes) had joined the project to provide "design support". The result was the JF-17 Thunder or CAC FC-1 Xiaolong that was primarily developed to meet the Pakistan Air Force’s requirement for an affordable, modern, multi-role combat aircraft. The development of JF-17 was headed by Yang Wei, China's "ace designer” who has also designed China’s Chengdu J-20. The fighter jet is made using 58% of the airframe from Pakistan and 42% from Chinese/Russian-origin. As of 2017 Pakistan Aeronautical Complex has manufactured 70 Block 1 type jets and 33 jets of the Block 2 type in the country for use by the Pakistan Air Force.
A JF-17 Thunder fighter jet of the Pakistan Air Force takes off from Mushaf base in Sargodha, north Pakistan. Image: Reuters
Specification
Tejas LCA: The HAL-made fighter jet is ideally a single seat fighter jet but can be made into a twin seat jet depending on armed forces' requirements, which is mostly for training purposes. The jet is light and simple as compared to other foreign-made fighter jets and is famous for its delta wing arrangement. It is powered by a single General Electric engine rated at 53.9 kN (12,100 lbf) thrust dry, 90 kN (20,200 lbf) with afterburner. It has a length of 13.2 metre and a wingspan of 8.2 metre. The plane weighs 6500 kg (dry) and has a total takeoff weight of 13000 kg. The Tejas has a maximum speed of Mach 1.8 (2222 kmph) and can travel 500 km with drop tanks. The Tejas can carry laser guided bombs, air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, anti-ship missiles, and has Israel's Elta EL/M-2032 multi-mode fire control radar on board.
JF-17 Thunder: The JF-17 Thunder is available in both single-seat and double seat configurations and is a single engine aircraft. It has a maximum high speed of Mach 1.6 (1975 kmph), a length of 14.93 metre and a wingspan of 9.48 metre. The plane weighs 6,586 kg (dry) and has a maximum takeoff weight of 12,383 kg. The Thunder uses a single Klimov RD-93 afterburning turbofan engine with digital electronic engine control (DEEC) and has a 49.4 kN (11,100 lbf) dry thrust and 85.3 kN (19,200 lbf) with afterburner. The JF-17 can carry air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, laser guided bombs and also has a china-made Airborne Pulse Doppler Fire-Control Radar on-board.
Summary
The HAL Tejas is fully indigenous made fighter jet, while the JF-17 is a Pakistan-China jointly developed jet. The HAL Tejas is both faster, lighter than the JF-17 and has a more powerful engine too. The payload carrying capacity is more than the JF-17 too. The HAL Tejas is also modified to use for Naval forces and can take-off and do arrested landing on aircraft carriers, as recently demonstrated by HAL and Indian Navy.
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That made me laugh. God bless our industrious neighbours and their nifty analyses. I need not say anymore.
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IAF Tejas vs Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder: The Battle to Manufacture the Best Home-Made Fighter Jet
Here’s how the Indian Air Force’s Tejas LCA and Pakistan Air Force’s JF-17 Thunder stack against each other.
UPDATED ON: JANUARY 27, 2020, 9:48 AM IST
Arjit Garg , News18.com
In the early hours of February 26, 2019, twelve Indian Air Force Mirage-2000 fighter jets made by Dassault Aviation, the same French company who also manufactures the Rafale Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircrafts, entered the Pakistani airspace and dropped 1,000-kg laser-guided bombs on Jaish-e-Mohammed terror launch pads across the Line of Control.
The very next day, in a retaliatory move, Pakistan Air Force deployed its US sourced F-16 Falcon and Pakistan-China co-developed JF-17 Thunder fighter jets. The JF-17 Thunder has been a source of pride for the PAF who consider them a home-made fighter jet, even though its co-developed with China. Pakistan recently updated its JF-17 Thunder to add more firepower to the jet that competes against the Indian Air Force’s HAL-Tejas LCA.
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Here’s how the Indian Air Force’s Tejas LCA and Pakistan Air Force’s JF-17 Thunder stack against each other:
Tejas LCA
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History
Tejas LCA: India has long bought its fighter jets from countries like Russia, France and Britain under a license agreement to manufacture it locally by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. However, back in the 1980s, HAL started the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme to replace the ageing Soviet sourced MiG-21. With India’s former Prime Minister giving the LCA its name – Tejas – the indigenously built fighter aircraft was inducted in the Indian Air Force with the IAF placing a 20 jet order initially and the first Tejas Squadron was formed in 2016 called the Flying Daggers. Till now IAF has placed an order of 40 Tejas Mk 1, including 32 single-seat aircraft and eight twin-seat trainers. IAF has also initiated procurement of a further 83 single-seat fighters in Mk 1A configuration.
JF-17 Thunder: Pakistan has long been dependent on China, United States and Russia for their air firepower. In 1995, Pakistan and China signed a MoU for joint design and development of a new fighter. The same year. USSR’s Mikoyan (known for MIG series of planes) had joined the project to provide "design support". The result was the JF-17 Thunder or CAC FC-1 Xiaolong that was primarily developed to meet the Pakistan Air Force’s requirement for an affordable, modern, multi-role combat aircraft. The development of JF-17 was headed by Yang Wei, China's "ace designer” who has also designed China’s Chengdu J-20. The fighter jet is made using 58% of the airframe from Pakistan and 42% from Chinese/Russian-origin. As of 2017 Pakistan Aeronautical Complex has manufactured 70 Block 1 type jets and 33 jets of the Block 2 type in the country for use by the Pakistan Air Force.
A JF-17 Thunder fighter jet of the Pakistan Air Force takes off from Mushaf base in Sargodha, north Pakistan. Image: Reuters
Specification
Tejas LCA: The HAL-made fighter jet is ideally a single seat fighter jet but can be made into a twin seat jet depending on armed forces' requirements, which is mostly for training purposes. The jet is light and simple as compared to other foreign-made fighter jets and is famous for its delta wing arrangement. It is powered by a single General Electric engine rated at 53.9 kN (12,100 lbf) thrust dry, 90 kN (20,200 lbf) with afterburner. It has a length of 13.2 metre and a wingspan of 8.2 metre. The plane weighs 6500 kg (dry) and has a total takeoff weight of 13000 kg. The Tejas has a maximum speed of Mach 1.8 (2222 kmph) and can travel 500 km with drop tanks. The Tejas can carry laser guided bombs, air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, anti-ship missiles, and has Israel's Elta EL/M-2032 multi-mode fire control radar on board.
JF-17 Thunder: The JF-17 Thunder is available in both single-seat and double seat configurations and is a single engine aircraft. It has a maximum high speed of Mach 1.6 (1975 kmph), a length of 14.93 metre and a wingspan of 9.48 metre. The plane weighs 6,586 kg (dry) and has a maximum takeoff weight of 12,383 kg. The Thunder uses a single Klimov RD-93 afterburning turbofan engine with digital electronic engine control (DEEC) and has a 49.4 kN (11,100 lbf) dry thrust and 85.3 kN (19,200 lbf) with afterburner. The JF-17 can carry air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, laser guided bombs and also has a china-made Airborne Pulse Doppler Fire-Control Radar on-board.
Summary
The HAL Tejas is fully indigenous made fighter jet, while the JF-17 is a Pakistan-China jointly developed jet. The HAL Tejas is both faster, lighter than the JF-17 and has a more powerful engine too. The payload carrying capacity is more than the JF-17 too. The HAL Tejas is also modified to use for Naval forces and can take-off and do arrested landing on aircraft carriers, as recently demonstrated by HAL and Indian Navy.
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Their pm has just announced that he can win a war against pak in 12 14 days ..
But will rather wait for situation to change and pakistan to be in a position to win overwhelmingly before he starts a war
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He can get a charred arse in 7 days and take 100 million people to their graves in case of a war. The rest is just delusions of grandeur. However one aspect of this war which they seem to have won is the economic war. Pakistan has no one but its own to blame for its lack lustre performance in the financial sector over the last 2 decades. Unless we can sort out our finamces and become financially independent we will not be able to susttain the pressures that will be put on our shoulders
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you forget Modi is a gujurati... from what I understand from a few in durban; they are mother .. dont know the word in english... wont even give their breath to a fellow citizen.
.... May I ask what TejAs means. i laugh when i hear it said... sounds like 'Fast' Asx..
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IAF Tejas vs Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder: The Battle to Manufacture the Best Home-Made Fighter Jet
Here’s how the Indian Air Force’s Tejas LCA and Pakistan Air Force’s JF-17 Thunder stack against each other.
UPDATED ON: JANUARY 27, 2020, 9:48 AM IST
Arjit Garg , News18.com
In the early hours of February 26, 2019, twelve Indian Air Force Mirage-2000 fighter jets made by Dassault Aviation, the same French company who also manufactures the Rafale Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircrafts, entered the Pakistani airspace and dropped 1,000-kg laser-guided bombs on Jaish-e-Mohammed terror launch pads across the Line of Control.
The very next day, in a retaliatory move, Pakistan Air Force deployed its US sourced F-16 Falcon and Pakistan-China co-developed JF-17 Thunder fighter jets. The JF-17 Thunder has been a source of pride for the PAF who consider them a home-made fighter jet, even though its co-developed with China. Pakistan recently updated its JF-17 Thunder to add more firepower to the jet that competes against the Indian Air Force’s HAL-Tejas LCA.
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Here’s how the Indian Air Force’s Tejas LCA and Pakistan Air Force’s JF-17 Thunder stack against each other:
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History
Tejas LCA: India has long bought its fighter jets from countries like Russia, France and Britain under a license agreement to manufacture it locally by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. However, back in the 1980s, HAL started the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme to replace the ageing Soviet sourced MiG-21. With India’s former Prime Minister giving the LCA its name – Tejas – the indigenously built fighter aircraft was inducted in the Indian Air Force with the IAF placing a 20 jet order initially and the first Tejas Squadron was formed in 2016 called the Flying Daggers. Till now IAF has placed an order of 40 Tejas Mk 1, including 32 single-seat aircraft and eight twin-seat trainers. IAF has also initiated procurement of a further 83 single-seat fighters in Mk 1A configuration.
JF-17 Thunder: Pakistan has long been dependent on China, United States and Russia for their air firepower. In 1995, Pakistan and China signed a MoU for joint design and development of a new fighter. The same year. USSR’s Mikoyan (known for MIG series of planes) had joined the project to provide "design support". The result was the JF-17 Thunder or CAC FC-1 Xiaolong that was primarily developed to meet the Pakistan Air Force’s requirement for an affordable, modern, multi-role combat aircraft. The development of JF-17 was headed by Yang Wei, China's "ace designer” who has also designed China’s Chengdu J-20. The fighter jet is made using 58% of the airframe from Pakistan and 42% from Chinese/Russian-origin. As of 2017 Pakistan Aeronautical Complex has manufactured 70 Block 1 type jets and 33 jets of the Block 2 type in the country for use by the Pakistan Air Force.
A JF-17 Thunder fighter jet of the Pakistan Air Force takes off from Mushaf base in Sargodha, north Pakistan. Image: Reuters
Specification
Tejas LCA: The HAL-made fighter jet is ideally a single seat fighter jet but can be made into a twin seat jet depending on armed forces' requirements, which is mostly for training purposes. The jet is light and simple as compared to other foreign-made fighter jets and is famous for its delta wing arrangement. It is powered by a single General Electric engine rated at 53.9 kN (12,100 lbf) thrust dry, 90 kN (20,200 lbf) with afterburner. It has a length of 13.2 metre and a wingspan of 8.2 metre. The plane weighs 6500 kg (dry) and has a total takeoff weight of 13000 kg. The Tejas has a maximum speed of Mach 1.8 (2222 kmph) and can travel 500 km with drop tanks. The Tejas can carry laser guided bombs, air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, anti-ship missiles, and has Israel's Elta EL/M-2032 multi-mode fire control radar on board.
JF-17 Thunder: The JF-17 Thunder is available in both single-seat and double seat configurations and is a single engine aircraft. It has a maximum high speed of Mach 1.6 (1975 kmph), a length of 14.93 metre and a wingspan of 9.48 metre. The plane weighs 6,586 kg (dry) and has a maximum takeoff weight of 12,383 kg. The Thunder uses a single Klimov RD-93 afterburning turbofan engine with digital electronic engine control (DEEC) and has a 49.4 kN (11,100 lbf) dry thrust and 85.3 kN (19,200 lbf) with afterburner. The JF-17 can carry air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, laser guided bombs and also has a china-made Airborne Pulse Doppler Fire-Control Radar on-board.
Summary
The HAL Tejas is fully indigenous made fighter jet, while the JF-17 is a Pakistan-China jointly developed jet. The HAL Tejas is both faster, lighter than the JF-17 and has a more powerful engine too. The payload carrying capacity is more than the JF-17 too. The HAL Tejas is also modified to use for Naval forces and can take-off and do arrested landing on aircraft carriers, as recently demonstrated by HAL and Indian Navy.
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"The HAL Tejas is both faster, lighter than the JF-17 and has a more powerful engine too." .....Paper Tiger.....Not good enough to contribute to IAF Operations ANY WHERE!
But Look Sexy.....Yaaaay!
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...approach at PAF Base Peshawar / Bacha Khan International Airport (Peshawar)
There is nothing wrong in posting picture but its not prudent to provide location.
dont mind please.
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Comparison is based on favoritism.
Any biased analysis is not appreciated.
Any biased analysis is not appreciated.
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A. It shouldn't of been prudent for DAWN to provide the Location back in 2014, to begin with.
dawn.com/news/1115486
B. I don't mind.
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The Bird looking very business-like.
We need to be industrious and single minded and set up export oriented industries and sort out our finances on the war footing. Far too long our approach have been half hearted at best, and to get away from one crisis's to the other by piling up more loans. Its about time we plan for our kids education, training and jobs creation in our own country and lay the foundation for financial independence which can be achieved if our leadership have got any vision for future. Personally I think CPEC is our best chance if we can plan and work on the free economic zones properly.
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IAF Tejas vs Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder: The Battle to Manufacture the Best Home-Made Fighter Jet
Here’s how the Indian Air Force’s Tejas LCA and Pakistan Air Force’s JF-17 Thunder stack against each other.
UPDATED ON: JANUARY 27, 2020, 9:48 AM IST
Arjit Garg , News18.com
In the early hours of February 26, 2019, twelve Indian Air Force Mirage-2000 fighter jets made by Dassault Aviation, the same French company who also manufactures the Rafale Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircrafts, entered the Pakistani airspace and dropped 1,000-kg laser-guided bombs on Jaish-e-Mohammed terror launch pads across the Line of Control.
The very next day, in a retaliatory move, Pakistan Air Force deployed its US sourced F-16 Falcon and Pakistan-China co-developed JF-17 Thunder fighter jets. The JF-17 Thunder has been a source of pride for the PAF who consider them a home-made fighter jet, even though its co-developed with China. Pakistan recently updated its JF-17 Thunder to add more firepower to the jet that competes against the Indian Air Force’s HAL-Tejas LCA.
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Here’s how the Indian Air Force’s Tejas LCA and Pakistan Air Force’s JF-17 Thunder stack against each other:
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History
Tejas LCA: India has long bought its fighter jets from countries like Russia, France and Britain under a license agreement to manufacture it locally by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. However, back in the 1980s, HAL started the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) programme to replace the ageing Soviet sourced MiG-21. With India’s former Prime Minister giving the LCA its name – Tejas – the indigenously built fighter aircraft was inducted in the Indian Air Force with the IAF placing a 20 jet order initially and the first Tejas Squadron was formed in 2016 called the Flying Daggers. Till now IAF has placed an order of 40 Tejas Mk 1, including 32 single-seat aircraft and eight twin-seat trainers. IAF has also initiated procurement of a further 83 single-seat fighters in Mk 1A configuration.
JF-17 Thunder: Pakistan has long been dependent on China, United States and Russia for their air firepower. In 1995, Pakistan and China signed a MoU for joint design and development of a new fighter. The same year. USSR’s Mikoyan (known for MIG series of planes) had joined the project to provide "design support". The result was the JF-17 Thunder or CAC FC-1 Xiaolong that was primarily developed to meet the Pakistan Air Force’s requirement for an affordable, modern, multi-role combat aircraft. The development of JF-17 was headed by Yang Wei, China's "ace designer” who has also designed China’s Chengdu J-20. The fighter jet is made using 58% of the airframe from Pakistan and 42% from Chinese/Russian-origin. As of 2017 Pakistan Aeronautical Complex has manufactured 70 Block 1 type jets and 33 jets of the Block 2 type in the country for use by the Pakistan Air Force.
A JF-17 Thunder fighter jet of the Pakistan Air Force takes off from Mushaf base in Sargodha, north Pakistan. Image: Reuters
Specification
Tejas LCA: The HAL-made fighter jet is ideally a single seat fighter jet but can be made into a twin seat jet depending on armed forces' requirements, which is mostly for training purposes. The jet is light and simple as compared to other foreign-made fighter jets and is famous for its delta wing arrangement. It is powered by a single General Electric engine rated at 53.9 kN (12,100 lbf) thrust dry, 90 kN (20,200 lbf) with afterburner. It has a length of 13.2 metre and a wingspan of 8.2 metre. The plane weighs 6500 kg (dry) and has a total takeoff weight of 13000 kg. The Tejas has a maximum speed of Mach 1.8 (2222 kmph) and can travel 500 km with drop tanks. The Tejas can carry laser guided bombs, air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, anti-ship missiles, and has Israel's Elta EL/M-2032 multi-mode fire control radar on board.
JF-17 Thunder: The JF-17 Thunder is available in both single-seat and double seat configurations and is a single engine aircraft. It has a maximum high speed of Mach 1.6 (1975 kmph), a length of 14.93 metre and a wingspan of 9.48 metre. The plane weighs 6,586 kg (dry) and has a maximum takeoff weight of 12,383 kg. The Thunder uses a single Klimov RD-93 afterburning turbofan engine with digital electronic engine control (DEEC) and has a 49.4 kN (11,100 lbf) dry thrust and 85.3 kN (19,200 lbf) with afterburner. The JF-17 can carry air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles, laser guided bombs and also has a china-made Airborne Pulse Doppler Fire-Control Radar on-board.
Summary
The HAL Tejas is fully indigenous made fighter jet, while the JF-17 is a Pakistan-China jointly developed jet. The HAL Tejas is both faster, lighter than the JF-17 and has a more powerful engine too. The payload carrying capacity is more than the JF-17 too. The HAL Tejas is also modified to use for Naval forces and can take-off and do arrested landing on aircraft carriers, as recently demonstrated by HAL and Indian Navy.
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